Murad A Baig March 19, 2008
#91 Posted by guru on March 24, 2008 7:36:17 pm
To check if it's book stupid, compare rosters of ciities such as Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi and Peshawar. Are Hindu haris disproportionately represented?
There can be other reasons such as IMs might have acquired the mindset of mughlai and other muslim shahis (lawlessness, a momin could lift Hindu's property/women.)
Personal experience: A desi looking kid had his lexus 300 with board of for sale, parked infront of comp-usa. An employee wanted a car so I went for a short drive. While entering in his car I dropped my credit card in his car. Forgot to pickup and went home. The kid was very well dressed and the car might be an year old. Before leaving the kid I called the employee and gave this kid's mobile to him. After a day I realized that I forgot my credit card. I asked employee to call the kid. The kid conveyed that he searched in the car and it was not there in his car. I blocked the card but they conveyed that there was purchase $2700 worth for a laptop, just after I lost the card. For insurance to take care of it I had to file a police complain. Police came back with video surveillance and asked me to identify the suspect. The kid was there. They called the kid on his mobile. Kid denied. I called the kid and realized that this kid was Hamza from Mirpur or some such place in Pakiland. He was only 19. He asked me not to press ahead, since I was supposed to get money from the insurance anyway. At that age he knew so much. Called his home to talk to his parents. Father was managing a Sheraton in suburb. His mother started crying, calling me bhaijan ...we are all indian etc etc.. and begged not to ruin her kid's life. I was getting too busy in my work so did not have time for police and court.
Bottomline: It's not socio-economic. when u r told - u are some chosen people with direct link to allah and all ur gunahs done on mere mortals esp on kafirs don't matter you have Hamzas all around. The mindset might have been molded by owning alien marauder as your own which encourages that for success in life u merely have to followin Kiss Hank's ass rituals of the alien religion and tag along with foreign rapist, criminal and marauders. This kind of psychological make up creates irresponsible people and nations (kargil, 65, 71 and begging to west and china or blaming everything on amrika)
You check illegal currency trade, smuggling, prostitution, bootlegging (when prohibition was in place) Muslim's are in forefront.. Even in US, disproportionately more muslims are in shady trades such as stolen car parts and auctioning of such cars.
If India does not take care of Muslim self created alienation problem another holocaust of partition will be necessary. This time no territory might be lost but lot of innocent blood will. Muslim elite and Masadi like intellectualize should focus on this impending crisis rather than neocons. Yu Pakis and IMs for allah sake give a big goodbye Chumma to distant Umma ... ur past, present and future depends on working with well meaning indians.
UN should ban organized religion all over the world. Promote spirituality which brings people together.
There can be other reasons such as IMs might have acquired the mindset of mughlai and other muslim shahis (lawlessness, a momin could lift Hindu's property/women.)
Personal experience: A desi looking kid had his lexus 300 with board of for sale, parked infront of comp-usa. An employee wanted a car so I went for a short drive. While entering in his car I dropped my credit card in his car. Forgot to pickup and went home. The kid was very well dressed and the car might be an year old. Before leaving the kid I called the employee and gave this kid's mobile to him. After a day I realized that I forgot my credit card. I asked employee to call the kid. The kid conveyed that he searched in the car and it was not there in his car. I blocked the card but they conveyed that there was purchase $2700 worth for a laptop, just after I lost the card. For insurance to take care of it I had to file a police complain. Police came back with video surveillance and asked me to identify the suspect. The kid was there. They called the kid on his mobile. Kid denied. I called the kid and realized that this kid was Hamza from Mirpur or some such place in Pakiland. He was only 19. He asked me not to press ahead, since I was supposed to get money from the insurance anyway. At that age he knew so much. Called his home to talk to his parents. Father was managing a Sheraton in suburb. His mother started crying, calling me bhaijan ...we are all indian etc etc.. and begged not to ruin her kid's life. I was getting too busy in my work so did not have time for police and court.
Bottomline: It's not socio-economic. when u r told - u are some chosen people with direct link to allah and all ur gunahs done on mere mortals esp on kafirs don't matter you have Hamzas all around. The mindset might have been molded by owning alien marauder as your own which encourages that for success in life u merely have to followin Kiss Hank's ass rituals of the alien religion and tag along with foreign rapist, criminal and marauders. This kind of psychological make up creates irresponsible people and nations (kargil, 65, 71 and begging to west and china or blaming everything on amrika)
You check illegal currency trade, smuggling, prostitution, bootlegging (when prohibition was in place) Muslim's are in forefront.. Even in US, disproportionately more muslims are in shady trades such as stolen car parts and auctioning of such cars.
If India does not take care of Muslim self created alienation problem another holocaust of partition will be necessary. This time no territory might be lost but lot of innocent blood will. Muslim elite and Masadi like intellectualize should focus on this impending crisis rather than neocons. Yu Pakis and IMs for allah sake give a big goodbye Chumma to distant Umma ... ur past, present and future depends on working with well meaning indians.
UN should ban organized religion all over the world. Promote spirituality which brings people together.
#90 Posted by dost_mittar on March 24, 2008 6:31:12 pm
Baig sahib haazir hoan!
pmishra#31:
"If you really want to talk about tolerance, start with your hometown. How many buddhist, hindu and sikh temples are there? What is their condition? How visible are these minorities? Have their numbers grown or shrunk in the last 50 years??"
Baig sahib is a well-known Indian and not a Pakistani. I believe he has a Hindu wife.
pmishra#31:
"If you really want to talk about tolerance, start with your hometown. How many buddhist, hindu and sikh temples are there? What is their condition? How visible are these minorities? Have their numbers grown or shrunk in the last 50 years??"
Baig sahib is a well-known Indian and not a Pakistani. I believe he has a Hindu wife.
#89 Posted by teshah on March 24, 2008 5:50:00 pm
Re: # 31
I wonder how a few families of Hindus and Sikhs managed to survive peacefully in our predominantly Muslim village in West Punjab during British Raj while there remained none after partition under Muslim Raj.
But mind all this cleansing was permitted by the Islmic God who had made 'Maale Ghaneemat'(Conquest and plunder) 'halal' (permissible) especially for the last prophet. (PBUH).
#88 Posted by friend on March 24, 2008 5:07:58 pm
Salim Chauhan sahib #various
Sir you don't have to direct our attention to violence against muslims. This article's basic premise is that while Christians didn't honor their treaties, and killed muslims, muslims were in general verrrry peaceful and considerate of their minorities. Given this peaceful nature of muslims, what happened to idol worshippers who used to reside in Mecca, why fire-worshippers Parsi had to run to India, and why Bahai are persecuted in Iran? What is happening to Afgani minorities? and why Saudi Arabia still can not tolerate any idols?
Sir you don't have to direct our attention to violence against muslims. This article's basic premise is that while Christians didn't honor their treaties, and killed muslims, muslims were in general verrrry peaceful and considerate of their minorities. Given this peaceful nature of muslims, what happened to idol worshippers who used to reside in Mecca, why fire-worshippers Parsi had to run to India, and why Bahai are persecuted in Iran? What is happening to Afgani minorities? and why Saudi Arabia still can not tolerate any idols?
#87 Posted by laddu on March 24, 2008 3:58:04 pm
Re: # 36
Miyan,
Jo woh bol raha hai usko samajho ! Hans kar ke apne ko hi aur bhramit kar rahe ho!
Miyan,
Jo woh bol raha hai usko samajho ! Hans kar ke apne ko hi aur bhramit kar rahe ho!
#86 Posted by jang on March 24, 2008 1:12:58 pm
GT sab (Jai Shri Krishna) you are right..the police rosters may not be disproportionate. during british times, the logs were full of Pardhis or Kolis or Thugees (so called criminal castes). my only point is the criminal enterpernuers hardly do it for (primarily) islami reasons irrespective or proportionality..definately not in india. police rosters are also prolly disproportinately low on brahmins or jains or parsees.
#85 Posted by arjun_5 on March 24, 2008 12:18:32 pm
#73 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 11:15:20 am
If there was such massive killing by the Paki Army, why didn't the Injuns try and convict the 90,000+ POWs that they had?
that's incredibly lame..no..that's neembu lame..
The PoWs hadn't killed indians. If anything, the indians could have turned them over to the bangladeshis who would have torn them apart from limb to limb..But they didn't...
If there was such massive killing by the Paki Army, why didn't the Injuns try and convict the 90,000+ POWs that they had?
that's incredibly lame..no..that's neembu lame..
The PoWs hadn't killed indians. If anything, the indians could have turned them over to the bangladeshis who would have torn them apart from limb to limb..But they didn't...
#84 Posted by guru on March 24, 2008 12:14:07 pm
Why not SC/STs, tribals etc?
Right from 50s onwards smuggling and extorton in mumbai is being done by Muslims? Mind that these Muslims are transparent eyes one from Konkan? Do you remember Haji Mastan? Dawood's father was in police service.
I have seen nomadic castes settling for education and their kids going for medicine and education. Muslims even after wealth (illgotten) do not go for education.
You are talking to someone whose 2 generations have served in police service.
I think it has something to do with that book and how Mulla interpretes it. Some Islamic leaders openly conveyed that even a criminal rapist murderer is bette rperson than Mahatma at the time of judgement. This religion for many is Kiss Hank's Ass for Million $ religion. Read my post on next board.
India should ban religions which make people rootless by asking them to change their name, abandon their language, script and allegiance to the land. If you cannot make ur town, ur lane sacred then u shud not standing on this land. If u r American Hindu then Mississipi is ur ganga and Roockies are ur Himalaya. Argonne or Fermi labs can be ur kashi & Mathura
Right from 50s onwards smuggling and extorton in mumbai is being done by Muslims? Mind that these Muslims are transparent eyes one from Konkan? Do you remember Haji Mastan? Dawood's father was in police service.
I have seen nomadic castes settling for education and their kids going for medicine and education. Muslims even after wealth (illgotten) do not go for education.
You are talking to someone whose 2 generations have served in police service.
I think it has something to do with that book and how Mulla interpretes it. Some Islamic leaders openly conveyed that even a criminal rapist murderer is bette rperson than Mahatma at the time of judgement. This religion for many is Kiss Hank's Ass for Million $ religion. Read my post on next board.
India should ban religions which make people rootless by asking them to change their name, abandon their language, script and allegiance to the land. If you cannot make ur town, ur lane sacred then u shud not standing on this land. If u r American Hindu then Mississipi is ur ganga and Roockies are ur Himalaya. Argonne or Fermi labs can be ur kashi & Mathura
#83 Posted by GT on March 24, 2008 12:10:03 pm
Jai Bajrang Bali Jang Babu,
I must say that of late you have been loosing a bit of your shine, a bit of your humour and a bit of your tolerance (I distinctly remember you reprimanding me for my strong response to Naqsh). There may be a reason I am sure, but I do not want to know about it (or maybe I already know about it). Here is an example of your slack:
A poster states - "Go to any city and check the police roaster. Muslims are disproportionately represented"
Now you take this statement as the "truth" and respond:
" ..., muslims are disproportionately in crime .... blah, blah, blah"
Jang sahib, why do you take the former statement as being true? Why do you even respond to such fundoo gibberish? Something is wrong, you are even getting your spelling right! Get back to your old self. It is OK, I suppose to pull a leg here and there ... but stretching it ????
Kind regards from a friend,
GT.
I must say that of late you have been loosing a bit of your shine, a bit of your humour and a bit of your tolerance (I distinctly remember you reprimanding me for my strong response to Naqsh). There may be a reason I am sure, but I do not want to know about it (or maybe I already know about it). Here is an example of your slack:
A poster states - "Go to any city and check the police roaster. Muslims are disproportionately represented"
Now you take this statement as the "truth" and respond:
" ..., muslims are disproportionately in crime .... blah, blah, blah"
Jang sahib, why do you take the former statement as being true? Why do you even respond to such fundoo gibberish? Something is wrong, you are even getting your spelling right! Get back to your old self. It is OK, I suppose to pull a leg here and there ... but stretching it ????
Kind regards from a friend,
GT.
#82 Posted by CreateAlpha on March 24, 2008 12:05:36 pm
the jews are gonna getchya...the jews are gonna getchya..boo!!
#81 Posted by tahir on March 24, 2008 11:53:05 am
Wikipedia - Unbiased Encyclopedia or a 'J..ish Tool'
Wikipedia is an internet encyclopedia, that anyone can edit and add information. Wikipedia claims it's articles are based on a totally neutral point of view. It's size is formidable, at 2.5 billion views a month.
Once you get below the surface, you find moderators that follow an agenda, which clearly takes a Pro-Jewish point of view.
Wikipedia System Of Control
Wikipedians (J...ish volunteers) will concentrate on a certain subject, and actively moderate any new replies. Once an individual edits an article, his ISP number is recorded, and he is assigned a sayanim that will monitor all his future writings.
Individual contributors are assigned a tracking page, and an open record of all writings. Through out the cycle the contributor this will be monitored by Hillel, ADL, SPLC, type control agents.
From all the available information, it appears Wikipedia was started by a two Jewish kids, one a programmer, and the other an 'Adult Site' operator. It's dynamic success (800,000 pages) stems from 10,000 + individual contributors, which are monitored by core sayanims.
Wikipedia's claim: ~ 'We are an internet encyclopedia with a neutral stance' ~ is absurd.
Wikipedia is an internet encyclopedia, that anyone can edit and add information. Wikipedia claims it's articles are based on a totally neutral point of view. It's size is formidable, at 2.5 billion views a month.
Once you get below the surface, you find moderators that follow an agenda, which clearly takes a Pro-Jewish point of view.
Wikipedia System Of Control
Wikipedians (J...ish volunteers) will concentrate on a certain subject, and actively moderate any new replies. Once an individual edits an article, his ISP number is recorded, and he is assigned a sayanim that will monitor all his future writings.
Individual contributors are assigned a tracking page, and an open record of all writings. Through out the cycle the contributor this will be monitored by Hillel, ADL, SPLC, type control agents.
From all the available information, it appears Wikipedia was started by a two Jewish kids, one a programmer, and the other an 'Adult Site' operator. It's dynamic success (800,000 pages) stems from 10,000 + individual contributors, which are monitored by core sayanims.
Wikipedia's claim: ~ 'We are an internet encyclopedia with a neutral stance' ~ is absurd.
#80 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 11:50:51 am
Jang,
Please don't lead me to any more wild good chases by posting links to pornographic sites. If you want my attention to focus on something worthwhile, please go the extra mile and post the pertinent information for my attention. Thank you.
Please don't lead me to any more wild good chases by posting links to pornographic sites. If you want my attention to focus on something worthwhile, please go the extra mile and post the pertinent information for my attention. Thank you.
#79 Posted by jang on March 24, 2008 11:48:03 am
guru, muslims are disproportionately in crime/unstructured bussinesses is primarily a socio-economic phenomenan, nothing to do with dar-ul-harb.
#78 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 11:48:02 am
Guru #75 {"Go to any city and check the police roaster. Muslims are disproportionately represented"}
Guru,
Could it be because of the massive discrimination against Muslims in education, employment in both the commercial and public sectors?
In many countries, the underprivileged are also the most inclined to take risks with the law. In the US, blacks occupy a disproportionate "advantage" in prison demographics.
Guru,
Could it be because of the massive discrimination against Muslims in education, employment in both the commercial and public sectors?
In many countries, the underprivileged are also the most inclined to take risks with the law. In the US, blacks occupy a disproportionate "advantage" in prison demographics.
#77 Posted by jang on March 24, 2008 11:40:00 am
thackre may have...she did indeed become like chief of film industry workers union or something like that and a film producer..here is an interesting profile on her
http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
#76 Posted by jang on March 24, 2008 11:39:46 am
thackre may have...she did indeed become like chief of film industry workers union or something like that and a film producer..here is an interesting profile on her
http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
http://www.india-today.com/itoday/12071999/profile.html
no dughter-in-law of peace shyte in here
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