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The Vicious Circle of Violence

Murad A Baig March 19, 2008

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#107 Posted by majumdar on March 25, 2008 5:41:15 am
Nkg,

I have watched Mauna Ragam too and also a Hindi translation called Kasak. Revathy was the star in MR, right? Lovely movie.

Regards
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#106 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 5:35:34 am
Re: # 101
Vengat...
Resigned....
I am watching Mauna Ragam (though I don't know Tamil, anyhow I have loved this movie, when I have watched it during my college days (91-92)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKy6lO-TJvw&feature=related
Enjo y...
(Chini Kum theme song is similar...)
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#105 Posted by guru on March 25, 2008 5:32:59 am
Holding mirror is true friendly act! One should take this job of documenting what Indian civilization gained from Muslim invaders. Indian and Paki Muslims need to be made aware that by keeping identity tied to the primitive and uncivilized cultures of invaders who happen to be Muslim may make them backward looking and rootless. In 80s they used call ABCD for kids who were being brought up in America. Unfortunately Muslim of subcontinent have been kept confused by vested interests of divide and rule of British and the brown babus who replaced them ie psydo-secularists, Lalu, Mulayam type politician. Subcontinental Muslims have become Arabia Bound Confused Desi.

In documenting the positive contributon, let me pose who was/were architect of Taj Mahal, Fattepur Sikri and other so called Muslim monuments? Who were the engineers of Sher Shah Suri's Grand Trunk Road?

Tanjawar temple architecture was followed in many temples, even Mahalaxmi/Ambabai temple of Kolhapur, Maharashtra. One of the architects who have preserved and improvised for current need is Shri Ganapathi Sthapati. What intrigued me is the following historical context from the url http://www.vastu-design.com/lesson1.htm

Ganapati Sthapati holds that the historical figure, Mayan, an architect and town planner of ancient India was the source of "Vastu Science". He was the author of Mayamata Vastu Shastra (a treatise on building and architecture) and also Surya Siddhanta (a treatise on Astronomy). These works are still alive and being used by scholars and practitioners all over India.

Sthapati told me that Mayan was adored as "Viswakarma" by Veda Vyasa in his Mahabharata (one of India¹s most renowned scriptures), implying thereby that Mayan was aware of the dynamics of SPACE and was able to apply the space-mechanics to his own creations and transform them into little universes on the Earth. Whatever he was able to create in visual terms, be it a sculpture, building or a town or city layout, they behaved like living organisms and pulsated with life. He was a great scientist of India who identified and quantified the vibrancy of the space enveloping the Earth and the heavenly bodies and also dwelling in each of the objects of nature.

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Let's hear from knowledgeable folks. Muslim need to be proud of the engineers, architects and the craftsmen who got samadhi while creating monuments even if they find that they were not Muslims. They should not be proud of only the guy who financed it. In reality these monuments impoverished the common Indian of that time. Sher Shah Suri was prudent and visionary but other wasted resources which could have been used better for creating universities, libraries, printing preses etc. There was no effort even in nurturing the architecture, engineering or craftsmanship. Europe had started doing this when Muslims and Rajputs were squandering national wealth.

Hope I am not hurting any ones feelings.
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#104 Posted by majumdar on March 25, 2008 5:10:50 am
Nkg,

(In most of the cases mother-in-law and sister-in-law are hold responsible for such crime...How many cases, you see father-in-law involved in such crimes?)

So I guess saas and nanads are all Muslimas, the sasurjis are all good Hindoos!!!

Regards
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#103 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 5:02:28 am
Re: # 100
Now cool down, Salim Saab will take you with him to heaven, don't worry.
Ans: Which heaven? Which provides 72 Arab virgins?
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#102 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 5:00:16 am
Re: # 99
Majumder:
In most of the cases mother-in-law and sister-in-law are hold responsible for such crime...How many cases, you see father-in-law involved in such crimes?

Vengkat:
Mohammed had committed all sorts of crime (rape, killing, torture, looting other's wealth). These are just reminders...Unfortunately Bal Thackery and Mohammed are same type of people...popular for negative energy...
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#101 Posted by vengatramanan on March 25, 2008 4:36:02 am
Nkg,

Its ok we have had a glorious past...Musalmaan's had their share of good times too... We have as many monsters as the Muslims have...Now don't try to ridicule, excessively, when somebody is going through hell...

Thanks,
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#100 Posted by vengatramanan on March 25, 2008 4:32:20 am
Re: # 99

Majumdar,

Stop all this antics. Indians indeed treat DILs as daughters. There could be aberrations.

Now cool down, Salim Saab will take you with him to heaven, don't worry. But Saab will take you there only as a spectator...wokay? No touching ...
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#99 Posted by majumdar on March 25, 2008 4:27:20 am
(Indians treat daughter-in-laws as daughter.)

Right about that. Bahus are burnt and daughters are aborted before birth. But maybe all these people doing dowry killings and female foeticide are Injun Momins.

Regards
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#98 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 4:26:21 am
Re: # 61
Salim:
We will like to discuss about Zainab and Ayesa and their sexual adventure with Muhammed and the paramours of these girls ( Zainab & Ayesa)...Let us start chronologically...Thackerey will come later...
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#97 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 4:08:22 am
Re: # 74
Salim:
Indians treat daughter-in-laws as daughter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imrana_rape_case
This is basically Moslem/barbaric culture.
Mohammed also had comitted same crime (raping his daughter-in law Zainab, wife of Zaid)...
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#96 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 3:53:18 am
Re: # 54
Salim:-
So before you start your mantra about Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Khilji, and Aurangzeb from the 10th, 13th, and 17th centuries let's talk about Thackeray and Modi from the 20th and 21st centuries.

Ans: Ch. Ch. Ch.... Moslims started these riot, and when they were paid back with the same coin RSS and Shiv Sena has become bad!!!!
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#95 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 3:47:07 am
Re: # 51
Salim:-
...and East Punjab was one of the most densely populated Muslim presence in India

Ans: ...and so it was given to India rather than Pakistan!!!!
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#94 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 3:43:40 am
Re: # 73
Salim...
If there was such massive killing by the Paki Army, why didn't the Injuns try and convict the 90,000+ POWs that they had?

Ans: They were POWs, and according to Geneva convention, India have to release these POWs. It was BD, who have to take final decision.
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#93 Posted by nkg on March 25, 2008 3:37:04 am
Re: # 78
Salim:-
Dalits and tribals are most disadvantaged group in India. Their crime record is far better than that of any other group in India.
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#92 Posted by pmishra2 on March 25, 2008 3:35:56 am
#90 dost_mittar

Ok, fair enough, that an indian should write this is even more unfortunate, so let me re-phrase my question:

If islam is inherently multi-cultural and peaceful, where are the sikh, hindu and buddhist temples of Afghanistan and Pakistan? Hindu and Budhist traditions were active in this region for 3000 years - and most important - where are the hindus, sikhs and buddhists??? Gone, all gone, slowly but systematically reduced to near zero..yes, I realize there are some left in villages of sindh. But not for long...

Dont even get me started on the jews of saudi arabia and yemen or the zoraostrians of iran...

Just talking about Spain and Turkey is one part of the story. Its like insisting that Akbar represents all of islamic history in South Asia...There is also Aurangzeb and Shah Wahiullah and their modern day descendants.
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