The Vicious Circle of Violence

one day mr baig will write an article on bal thackreys birthday about how shivsena wants to bring message of peace to bambaiyyas where all including bhayyas can live in harmony after they respect maratha sentiments...LOL

#56 arjun {"are we allowed to talk about the killings of hundreds of thousands of bangladeshis in 71 or is that not permitted in your alternate reality? "}

Arjun,
I am glad that you have scaled down the allegation from 3 million to hundreds of thousands, which is still very high. Of course we can talk about that. Many Pakistanis, myself included, condemn the stupid, wanton, unnecessary, and cruel loss of life that resulted from the Paki Army's occupation of East Pakistan. Of course, we must condemn the killings carried out by the terrorist (I guess that was before the word became fashionable) Mukti Bahini and their Indian supporters across the border.

Guru #52 {"And wherever Allah’s boys are dominant, women have to be careful. "}

Guru,
...and they say the same thing about the vice squad.

#54 Posted by Salim_Chauhan on March 24, 2008 10:19:35 am

are we allowed to talk about the killings of hundreds of thousands of bangladeshis in 71 or is that not permitted in your alternate reality?

vengatramanan #53 {"Salim,
Why so much anger?... Your witty, driving-sense posts have dried...There are many others who can play your newly acquired avthar...Make sure, the Salim we knew manages to survive..."}

Ramanan sahib,
Not anger, just disappointment. Too many Indians are using anti-Islamic orgasms as a substitute for their own parched sex lives and not enough Indians are stopping their own countrymen from this pre-feticide genocide.

pmishra2 #31 {"Islam in south asia has been definitely violent and hegemonic ... How many buddhist, hindu and sikh temples are there? What is their condition? How visible are these minorities? Have their numbers grown or shrunk in the last 50 years?? "}

Shri Mishra ji,
I don't know about Islam in South Asia, but Muslims in Gujarat and Bombay have certainly seen much right-wing Hindu violence in the last two decades. It must be very frightening to watch your own state's police escorting murderers and rapists to your neighborhood to loot, rape, burn, mutilate, and murder little girls and then videotape such dastardly deeds. So before you start your mantra about Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Khilji, and Aurangzeb from the 10th, 13th, and 17th centuries let's talk about Thackeray and Modi from the 20th and 21st centuries.

Salim,

Why so much anger?...
Your witty, driving-sense posts have dried...There are many others who can play your newly acquired avthar...Make sure, the Salim we knew manages to survive...

Regards,

From: http://khawatein.blogspot.com/

And wherever Allah’s boys are dominant, women have to be careful. Even though I am a Muslim woman who hasn’t stopped eating beef (even after marrying a Hindu), I fear my own co-religionists more than those from other communities…



See the comments at the bottom
http://drvasu.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/concept-of-god-osho-islam-zakir-n aik-and-the-acid-test/

#30 Majumdar {"Whereas in India, minority population has grown in all states since 1951 Census and nowhere was the Muslim population decimated except in East Punjab."}

The Zodiac murderer killed people in only one out of 50 states. :)

...and East Punjab was one of the most densely populated Muslim presence in India.

Re: # 46

I think you should refrain from such language; it is quite unbecoming of a Muslim. Our Hazoor (pbuh) has forbidden us to respond to those who badmouth, no matter what. Ijazat nahiN hay.

#47 Ajeya,
Does the chopping off of the hands of the poor Bihari victim by Maharashtran goondays of the right-wing religious Hindu groups constitute condolence by Ram or Krishna or even Gandhiji?

friend #16 {"One question - Why are there no minorities worth counting in Middle east? Kindly don't count Shia and Sunnis as minorities in those counteries."}

Friend:

Egypt - Coptic Christians
Syria - Many types of Christians - Greek, Syrian Orthodix, etc..
Jordan - Palestinian Christians
Palestine - Palestinian Christians
Lebanon - Maronite, Druze,
Iraq - Chaldean Christians
Yemen - Jews
Morocco - Jews
Turkey - Christians, Jews
Pakistan - Christians, Hindus
Iran - Christians, Jews, Bahaais
Indonesia - Christians, Hindus
Kazakhstan - Christians.
Malaysia - Buddhists (Chinese), Christians (Chinese), Hindu (Tamils)
Nigeria - Christians

#41 Salim_Chauhan

[Baig Sahib,
...Indeed if we follow the example of Our Holy Prophet (PBUH), compassion, forgiveness, and love will define Islam ....blah blah blah....}

Yes. I was just trying to visualize the gory sight of a man being decapitated. The blood and the gore. The soil turned into red mud. The blood gushing out of the decapitated neck. The head lying on the mud. And then I tried to imagine a whole field of decapitated bodies.

And the HELPLESS and INNOCENT women and children. Sold like cattle. To a life of horrible degradation.

Compassion and love indeed.

{"I guess if someone who started at least a hundred wars (and screwed an equal number of chicks) can be considered a man of peace"}

How about the imposter who died with his nose firmly implanted in his own feces?

Why is it that the yearning for the Loved One (the Holy Prophet) is especially strong today?


Most definitely our Master, Holy Prophet (pbuh), is the only person in the history of mankind, in praise of whom, a new genre of poetry has come into being, called Na'at. Poets across the world, in almost every major language, have created magnum opus of poetry praising him.

I don't know whether the credit goes to the mastery of the poet or the beauty of Punjabi language that such masterpiece had come into existence. It is the good fortune of Punjabi language that just because of this single poem, the Punjabi language will live for ever and will never be obsolete.

This poem was written by Pir Mehr Ali Shah of Golra Sharif (Rawalpindi), sometimes in late 19th century; and to this date it warms the hearts of anyone who lends his ears.

The legend has it that Pir sahib wished that Holy Prophet show himself to him in a dream. His dream came true; and his awe, his humility, and his marvel at his good fortune expresses itself in these immortal words:

For those who know and love Punjabi language an audio of this Naa't is available here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnKuD7n04xY



English Translation:

"Aj sik mitran di waderi eh "

Why is it that the yearning for the Loved One (i.e., the Holy Prophet) is especially strong today?
Why is my heart sadder today than even before?

Why does longing penetrate every tissue of mine?
And why are the eyes shedding tears like a shower of rain?

His shining face appeared to me in a vision,
And fragrance emanated in profusion from His tresses;

I fainted from the sight of these visions;
The hordes of his eyes overpowered me.

His face shines like the full moon;
A brilliant light radiates from his brow;

His hair is black, and his eyes are bewitching and intoxicated.
His two eye-brows are like cross-bows,
Hurling darts of pointed eye-lashes (in all directions);

His lips are red like rubies of Yemen;
His white teeth like a string of pearls.

I am not sure whether I should call his face the essence of life;
Or life of the entire universe;

The truth is that it is (like) the glory of God,
From which all other (worldly) glories originated,

This face (of the Prophet) emerged from the Faceless One (i.e., Allah);
The Faceless One manifests Himself through this face.

The Colourless (Reality) has been revealing itself through this image,
Ever since Unity exploded into Diversity.

It is this face (of the Holy Prophet) that guides (mankind) to the path of Faceless One (i.e., Allah);
Nay (not the path only but) to the Ultimate Reality Itself.

However, understanding this (secret) is beyond the capacity of the simpletion;
Only the select few succeed in discovering and capturing the Pearl (of Truth).

May this Face (of the Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H)) remain before my eyes,
In my last moments (of life) and on the Resurrection Day!

Then (also) in my grave, and at the time of crossing the (razor-sharp) Bridge (on the Judgment Day);
Only then shall the fake ones become pure (in the sight of Allah).

Thou (O Holy Prophet) hast been blessed (by Allah) with the promise to grant thy desire (in full);
And we (thy humble followers) have full faith in Allah's assurance that thou shalt be happy with the Bounty of Allah.

The Gracious One (we hope) shall declare us successful (in the test of earthly life);
Because we have correctly understood the Divine words: "Intercede and thy intercession shall be accepted".
Be gracious enough to remove from thy face the sheet of Yemen (O Prophet !),
And grant us a glimpse of thy endearing face.

Repeat once again those sweet words,
Which thou hadst uttered in the valley of Hamra.

Come (once again) from thy cell to Mosque,
For everyone longs for a glimpse of thy image full of light;

(And) denizens of both the worlds (i.e., this world and the Hereafter) are laying their eyes in thy path -
Human beings, angels, the houris and the fairies.

For the ones yearning and pining (for a glimpse of thine);
Who are ready to sacrifice (their lives) for thy sake;

For these slaves ready to sell themselves out without any price (in thy path);
May those moments of bliss come back once again!

Glory to Allah, who created thee (O Holy Prophet!) in the most beautiful, the best, and the most perfect mould.
Who is (the humble) Meher Ali to chant thy praises;

How (presumptuous and) impudent his eyes are to aspire to the heights of thy love!

ahmedmadani #14 {"One has to understand symbolic message of these stories , but blocked heads of goats will never appreciate"}

Madani Sahib,
How are you, sir? Only you can put a head to match these headless, senseless, and godless creatures' missing ones.