Kamal Siddiqi March 24, 2008
#6 Posted by tahmed32 on March 25, 2008 5:47:32 pm
#3 afsand: I suggest we agree to disagree which one between the two of us is heing stupid. :-)
#5 Posted by hamidm2 on March 25, 2008 5:41:19 pm
Re: # 4
ferozk,
"As to the civil society, it would be the first one to cheer the military back into power" ....... and this time they will be led by tahmed instead of romair ......
..... let's see how this government conducts itself in the first 100 days - if the alliance lasts that will be a good sign ..... if not, i am afraid we will be back to the same old bickering .... personally, i don't have any faith in this or any government solving the electricity crisis in the near future and will therefore put off my visit till october - had enough of sleeping in the car last summer ......
ferozk,
"As to the civil society, it would be the first one to cheer the military back into power" ....... and this time they will be led by tahmed instead of romair ......
..... let's see how this government conducts itself in the first 100 days - if the alliance lasts that will be a good sign ..... if not, i am afraid we will be back to the same old bickering .... personally, i don't have any faith in this or any government solving the electricity crisis in the near future and will therefore put off my visit till october - had enough of sleeping in the car last summer ......
#4 Posted by ferozk on March 25, 2008 5:21:27 pm
re: tahmed32 # 2
The past historic experience of governance in Pakistan does not support an optimistic asssessment of the sitution in Pakistan or this government's ability to resolve the issues confronting Pakistan.
Too much optimism is a certain recipe for disappointment and it would be better to wait and see, how this government performs and what it accomplishes before singing its praises. There is a difference between being elected to power and ruling a nation and so far, this government has not ruled Pakistan or proven itself in that regard. Therefore, only time will tell how well or miserably this goverment performs.
As to the civil society, it would be the first one to cheer the military back into power.
Do not forget the images of the civil society distributing sweets after the coup of 1999 in the streets of Pakistan.
Sirji, nothing has changed at all. Let there be elections in 2013 and let this government accomplish tangible results and let it visibly improve the lot of the average person in Pakistan and then, and only then, we can say there will be "...better days ahead of Pakistan...".
Ciao
The past historic experience of governance in Pakistan does not support an optimistic asssessment of the sitution in Pakistan or this government's ability to resolve the issues confronting Pakistan.
Too much optimism is a certain recipe for disappointment and it would be better to wait and see, how this government performs and what it accomplishes before singing its praises. There is a difference between being elected to power and ruling a nation and so far, this government has not ruled Pakistan or proven itself in that regard. Therefore, only time will tell how well or miserably this goverment performs.
As to the civil society, it would be the first one to cheer the military back into power.
Do not forget the images of the civil society distributing sweets after the coup of 1999 in the streets of Pakistan.
Sirji, nothing has changed at all. Let there be elections in 2013 and let this government accomplish tangible results and let it visibly improve the lot of the average person in Pakistan and then, and only then, we can say there will be "...better days ahead of Pakistan...".
Ciao
#3 Posted by asfand on March 25, 2008 11:09:55 am
Do you really think that this time it is going to be different. With same robbers running the country, the time is not too far when people will start screaming to bring the Army back in power.
Stupidity is to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.
Stupidity is to keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.
#2 Posted by tahmed32 on March 25, 2008 10:15:03 am
#1 ferozk: you are too pessimistic. Sure there are problems. But the basics are solid - with a vibrant, well-educated civil society (not half-brained islamist ideologues or the over-clever mush and the lowlife who jumped onto his bandwagon).
This national character has been developed on the school of hard knocks (military dictatorships, each worse than the last). And character is destiny. There are definitely better days ahead for Pakistan, now that the self-obsessed scoundrel has been effectively put in his place.
This national character has been developed on the school of hard knocks (military dictatorships, each worse than the last). And character is destiny. There are definitely better days ahead for Pakistan, now that the self-obsessed scoundrel has been effectively put in his place.
#1 Posted by ferozk on March 25, 2008 1:23:03 am
The expectations of the people, for this government to solve their problems, is the reason why this government will have a difficult time succeeding.
Expections will always exceed results and the pace of the results will never equal the rising expectations of the people.
This government will be stepping into a strange cocktail of expectations and disappointments and though the people are looking to it and to the future it holds for the nation, with a sense of expectation; they are mindful of the past broken promises of the past governments.
The threshold of a failure is very low in Pakistan and the failure of this government, should it go the manner of so many other governments in the past, will be tragic for Pakistan in more ways than one.
Ciao
Expections will always exceed results and the pace of the results will never equal the rising expectations of the people.
This government will be stepping into a strange cocktail of expectations and disappointments and though the people are looking to it and to the future it holds for the nation, with a sense of expectation; they are mindful of the past broken promises of the past governments.
The threshold of a failure is very low in Pakistan and the failure of this government, should it go the manner of so many other governments in the past, will be tragic for Pakistan in more ways than one.
Ciao
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