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An Agenda for the New Government

Kamal Siddiqi March 24, 2008

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#17 Posted by laddu on March 26, 2008 4:27:11 pm
After elections , the Jaza-e-Jehad has increased amongst Paki momeens.
The script that has been implanted in their minds would run it's inevitable course.

More attacks on indian cities is expected from Paki momeens. More attacks are also expected on cities in west- especially Europe.

It would only stop unless Pakistan is dismantled!!
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#18 Posted by tahmed32 on March 26, 2008 5:13:30 pm
#13 ferozk bhai: sigh!! Seems like the point of my previous post, complete with the point actually highlighted so you dont miss it, was still missed with you.

To repeat myself - I am not by any means minimizing problems by any means. All I am commending is the political capacity and maturity that the nation - civil society, lawyers, and the electorate has shown. It is this political capacity, this national character, that makes Pakistan strong enough to deal with these problems.

Please reflect a bit on this since this point seems to have simply slipped by you.
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#19 Posted by hamidm2 on March 26, 2008 5:16:25 pm
Re: # 18

laddu mian,

... for god's sake calm down ! ..... you are making the idiots on the right side of the border look like a bunch of geniuses ..... stop making a fool out of yourself - remember, you are a veggie eating hindoo not a crazy meat eating mohammedan ..... get a grip on your dhoti !
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#20 Posted by hamidm2 on March 26, 2008 5:17:33 pm
Re: # 18

tahmed,

... i don't blame you - at your age any minor stirring of the loins can set hopes soaring .... good luck !
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#21 Posted by shivsenna on March 26, 2008 5:19:25 pm
Re: # 17

Laddu, you are doing us more harm than good.
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#22 Posted by tahmed32 on March 26, 2008 5:20:33 pm
#20 hamidm: it is a bit more than that - ask your Rising Sun Musharraf about it..
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#23 Posted by tahmed32 on March 26, 2008 5:35:50 pm
hamidm: you seem to have lost your sense of humor recently. hope all is well with lota rashid.
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#24 Posted by ijaz_gul on March 26, 2008 6:23:35 pm
there is always a tragic distance with what is desirable, reachable and achiveable. But yet I know, this political dispensation will strive in earnest.
I was talking to one of the Babas of PPP. He sensibly said that this time around, it will be easier to achive policy ends because the diversity in coalition is forced to work towards predetermined goals. What a blessing.

Laddu, plz dont feel bad. It happens.
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#25 Posted by ahmedmadani on March 26, 2008 7:19:50 pm
Re: # 15 Mr Jayp.... I appereciate all things you observe abd post here.
This seems to have missed your attention. ( sorry not happy news for You )
The UAE minister said in UAE talking to business leaders UAE is going to invest 100 Billion dollars in pakistan.( not million but billion, ). I was expecting you to react but it was not good news I guess.
Now 100 billion dollars in pakistan is same as 6x100=600 billion dollars needed to be investgated in india for equivalence. Now may be last year 2 billion dollars only in india. We are talking economic teams then you team is almost amature.

Our rs is 62 and indian is some 40 rs you can be happy but indian business men crying as when export comes they can not compete. A coin has to sides always , some thing good and some thing bad.

India does not have FTA ( free trade agreement) with usa or china, it is almost about to happen and leading big money coming from china and usa in industry, cheap labor+ pakistn management expertise+ chinese investmenet+ american investment= Competitive cheap price products for world market for exports.

Recently first ship docked big G and carried canadian wheat.

Chinese copper project in B.Stan is very profitable and all they produce copper is exported to china and they need more, capacity expansion by 50% in next 4 years.

Soon foreign companies bidding for 3000 MW coal fuel power plants biding. That coal is so much in Thar desert that a 300MW plant can work for 10,000 years as per foreign experts.

PIA is buying 8 brand new 777 for pakistan to west europe and usa flights.

Soon energy lines will be bringing gaseous gold in 8 ft dia pipes from Iran and TAP pipe line is still in plan. India will get cheap courtsey of pakistan pipe lines allowing export to India.

These are things are more importance than tata putting 2 billions for british car company. I wish them good luck , they need is lot , Hope mr. Tata has reasonable management team indian can be good cruncher of number but management is more complex art. It always comes to mind these 2 billion dollars can provide some better food to some portion of starving undernourished.

Hope you appreciation of good things going economically is expected.
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#26 Posted by jayp on March 26, 2008 11:06:22 pm
Re: # 25

madani saab,

I really wish people post good news about pakistan as I do not see any good news in dawn and jang that I read. Of course I do not post fantacies, 100 billion in pakistan. I recall reading that a large sum of world bank and ADB loans have not been used because pakistan do not have the infrastructure to absob money, well that do not include transfers to swiss banks.

Many reports I read about economic aspects of ppakistan is pure crap. It was only yesterday that they have approved 1000MW wind power installation in karachi in the next two years. To begin with there is no wind turbine manufacturing capacity globally to do that.

You talk of chinese investm,ents, read todays dawn, chinese have won contract to clear garbage in karachi. Talk of paki management capacity, they need chinese to slave labour the paki workers. Then of course, do not forget the reason for lal masjid, it was linked to chinese run brothels. If pakis cannot run brothels and need chinese expertise, well that proves that the only task that pakistanis can do with finesse is jihad.

Did you know that teh so called number three in al quida, sheikh mohammed is a pakistani, and his sister is moving court against his illegal transfer to quantanamo, of a paki citizen. All along it was claimed that sheikh mohammed was a saudi.
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#27 Posted by jayp on March 27, 2008 12:07:12 am

If only the educated pakistanis could accept the reality that the capability of the apkistanis are inferior due to historical reasons.

From dawn of today


Reporting from Karachi, the author comments on the country’s first cabinet: “With enormous problems, Pakistan has only a very ordinary set of leaders to cope with them”, barring a few “the other members of the cabinet are all mediocrities.” The exceptions identified by the author were the “brilliant” Mr Jinnah, the prime minister and the finance minister.

In 2008, the problems have become much more enormous and the leadership has become much more mediocre. Even the exceptions at the very top are conspicuous by their absence.

The quality of political leadership went into a steep decline after Mr Jinnah. This was exacerbated by the military’s interruption of the political process that serves as the training ground for new leaders. Instead, military leaders found it in their interest to pick pliable political faces to front for them. And political leaders, in turn, promoted military leaders whom they deemed safe. A process in which incumbents picked others less clever than themselves assured a rapid race to the bottom.

Insecure political leaders, civil or military, are also prone to choosing their key bureaucrats on the basis of loyalty. Mr Ziaul Haq added to a secular decline in critical thinking by making the social sciences subservient to an ideological education in Pakistan Studies. It was no surprise to read Strobe Talbott’s comparison of South Asian bureaucrats in his book Engaging India: “In general, our sessions with the Pakistanis, while occasionally more exciting than those with the Indians, lacked a comparable degree of intellectual engagement…. While Jaswant [Singh’s] team was highly disciplined in every respect, some of Shamshad Ahmad’s colleagues tended to be querulous, surly, and sometimes abusive.”

By way of contrast, Ramachandra Guha’s new book India after Gandhi includes a description of India’s first cabinet in 1947. The 13-member cabinet included three who were not from the Congress party and three who had been lifelong adversaries of the Congress and had collaborated with the British, including the virulently anti-upper-caste Dr B.R. Ambedkar. Gandhi reminded his supporters that freedom had come to India, not to Congress, and urged “the formation of a cabinet that included the ablest men regardless of party affiliation.”
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#28 Posted by jayp on March 27, 2008 12:10:29 am
"While Jaswant [Singh’s] team was highly disciplined in every respect, some of Shamshad Ahmad’s colleagues tended to be querulous, surly, and sometimes abusive.”

One can see this on chowk. Most of the abusive language, switching to urdu, name calling etc are the speciality of pakis on chowk. This is a cultural trait, stemming from a lower intellectual capacity.

If only the tahmeds, zeemaxes and YLH of chowk could accept this and try to improve the situation, it would be agreat day for pakistan.
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#29 Posted by treetop on March 27, 2008 12:39:09 am
Re: # 26
Pakis would be more than happy to award garbage collecting contract for lahore to the indians.
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#30 Posted by harish_hyd on March 27, 2008 1:18:12 am
#29 by treetop

Pakis would be more than happy to award garbage collecting contract for lahore to the indians.

If that happens, the first thing the Indian contractor would have to collect along with the garbage is trash like you.
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#31 Posted by treetop on March 27, 2008 1:59:22 am
Re: # 30
You are calling your brahma a trash,you will be reincarnated as a cow.
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#32 Posted by harish_hyd on March 27, 2008 3:08:59 am
#31 by treetop

You are calling your brahma a trash,you will be reincarnated as a cow.

I don't mind that, but what about you? You're going to be reincarnated as a swine, an animal that loves trash.
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