Small Spies Must be Hanged , While Bigger Ones Prosper

Vengat,

(Who could have been the 'best lot of' the Muslims)

MAJ (pbuh)

(who would have undertaken the difficult task of fighting for independence on the streets...)

No need to do that. The war of Indian independence was won on the streets of Paris, Berlin, Dunkirk et al.

Regards

Re: # 91

Majumdar,

Who could have been the 'best lot of' the Muslims, who would have undertaken the difficult task of fighting for independence on the streets...

Vengat,

YLH has no intention to disparage Muslims in spite of being excommunicated from the faith. His objection to MKG is to the fact that he pandered to the worst lot within the Muslim community, a tradition which has been faithfully continued by INC since independence. This has done no one, Hindoo or Muslim any good.

Regards

Maju Anna,

Just because I don't end with 'regards', please do not assume that I have no regards for you. I have the highest regards for you :)...

Re: # 88

Majumdar,

I haven't interacted with Aisha boudi.

As far YLH I have told you the reason behind his vitriol against Gandhi :). Its his way to bash Muslims...Gandhi is just a decoy...Don't take him seriously...Everytime he speaks bad about Gandhi, he will invariably bring about Gandhi's himalayan blunder of supporting the Khilafat movement which lead to Moplah violence and describe in glory all the gruesome details of how Hindus were murdered by Muslims. His emphasis is like, "See wherever there is violence, one of the parties will be Muslims" :)...

Vengat,

Thanks for clarifying on Ranjit bhai and Kaal bhai. Now can you shed some light on the RSS roots of Yasser mian and Aisha boudi.

Regards

* it is not difficult to conclude Gandhi is a bad man as it is no different from Gandhi being called bad

it is not difficult to conclude Gandhi was a bad man as it is no different from Gandhi being called good.

Majumdar,

Kaal Bhai, I assume is from the Advaita school of thought, which rejects dualism. So, for him, good and bad represent the same thing and it is not difficult to conclude Gandhi is a bad man as it is no different from Gandhi being called bad...:)

Hamidm Saab, you have to be very careful with him...You know he loves to be oxymoronic...When he said Horrible Hindoos, you should have taken the hint...

Ranjit Saab, speaks his true emotions only when the topic veers to IITs...Apart from that he is content to live in UP , working on the icons...He is taking tuitions from our Salim Saab on humor...

Vengat

(but almost all of the haters/hate emanates from RSS. )

FYI,

Neither me nor Ranjit bhai nor YLH nor Aisha boudi are RSS members.

Regards

Vengat,

Re: 82

Why wud YLH want to subtly denigrate Muslims when it is alleged that he wants to become a minister in Pakistan? Btw the whole crux of his argument is not Muslims propensity to violence but MKG's refusal to condemn the same, in fact his tacit encouragement of the same.

Nkg,

A man who compromised with the worst elements among Islamic fundoosim maybe the hero of lots of people but cannot be the same of patriotic Hindoo Injuns (like me) or right thinking Pakis (like YLH)

Regards

Re: # 81

Nkg,

I don't contest the fact that one can be a good man, a moderate Hindu and an RSS member. I don't say all RSS members are Gandhi haters but almost all of the haters/hate emanates from RSS.

Re: # 79

Majumdar,

How can Gandhi manifest out of a "A mixture of reasons". Yes, the effect was gruesome and very damaging for the Hindus, no doubt but what was the single most deciding cause?

Manto's strategy to hit out at Muslims' proclivity to violence is to bash Gandhi and attribute Moplah violence to him, which essentially was a Muslim enacted saga. This is his way of subtly telling Muslims about their faults.

Re: # 76
Vengat...
This is the reason for the hatred unleashed by RSS type Hindus on Gandhiji here on Chowk.
Ans: Gandhi and RSS had enough mutual admiration... Gwalkar's indian socialism matches with that of Gandhi...

Re: # 73
Majumder...
(so called oppressed muslims will not be able to get rid of the problem is the path they follow. )

Ans: I am not supporting all actions of Gandhi. Khilafat movement, Mopallah carnage etc...may be few abberations... He was trying to appease muslims to stop sessionist movement (My point of bringing USSR and Yugoslavia is same. Pakistan was supposed to happen. Jinnah was just officiating that. Neither Jinnah was visionary not he had any quality, which can inspire people. Pakistan was bourne out of negative agenda. This negative thinking amongst muslims are ingrained in their value system ( courtesy Islam)). Gandhi was wrong in his assessment and understanding of Islam. Most probably his left hand Maulana Abul Kalam Azad had mislead him....Basic nature of his movement should not be misjudged by few abberations. He is not the first and last person to be the victim of islam (dishonesty and treachery). Bangladesh exploited all help from India and USSR and then within 2 years ditched the group and joined OIC(the very umbrella organisation, which opposed formation of Bangladesh) and now another Pakistan (slave of uncivilised arabs)....
Today if Jammu to Kanyakumari, Gujrat to Meghalaya/Tripura is happily under one country, Gandhi must be creadited for this (to large extent)...British had stiched the administration...

Vengat,

A mixture of reasons. Economic disputes plus religious bigotry.

(reason for the hatred unleashed by RSS type Hindus on Gandhiji here on Chowk.)

There are many people here who for various reasons oppose the G-man: Sanatani, YLH, Ranjit, Kaal bhai, myself, Hamidm to name a few. To the best of my knowledge of the whole lot only Sanatani can be described as a RSS-wallah.

Regards

*Mophlah's

Moplahs