Small Spies Must be Hanged , While Bigger Ones Prosper

Re: # 46
Point proven, masadi deserves that his IP should be banned by the administrators, since he choses to remain indecent in public has no haya or shame to stop the flow of filth from his mouth. No wonder he has a dispute with anyone and everyone who participates in this forum.

Re: # 58
LOL...C'mon, You are raising the bar to dizzying heights...Girls will pounce on him if Imran decided to go bare chested :D


Ans: I think, I have failed to convince....
The basic job of a successful leader is that he should make people feel that, he is one of their own. Laloo Yadav, Mulayam Yadav, Sharad Pawar, Mayawati etc. accumulated more wealth than Arun Jaitley. But go to any Bihar village, they will believe Laloo more than Arun Jaitley...Lifestyle matters....

Re: # 57

Nkg,

LOL...C'mon, You are raising the bar to dizzying heights...Girls will pounce on him if Imran decides to go bare chested :D

Seriously Gandhi had a very ordinary childhood...Definitely you would have read his book...

I think Imran must have been a mother's kid...
Afterall, it is Matha, Pitha, Guru, Deivam...

Re: # 57

Nkg,

LOL...C'mon, You are raising the bar to dizzying heights...Girls will pounce on him if Imran decided to go bare chested :D

Seriously Gandhi had a very ordinary childhood...Definitely you would have read his book...

I think Imran must have been a mother's kid...
Afterall, it is Matha, Pitha, Guru, Deivam...

Re: # 55
No doubt JP and Gandhiji were great leaders...
Ans: Gandhi, before reaching India for freedom struggle used to be suited-booted middle class person.

Re: # 55
I, personally, don't see anything wrong in the way he raised money for the hospital. Didn't we organize cricket matches and Star Nites to riase money for the earth quake victims? I hope we have more Imrans amidst us...

Ans: I appreciate that, but then again naming the hospital after her mother's name (who has no public significance in Pakistan) looks indecent.

Nkg,

No doubt JP and Gandhiji were great leaders...They have different styles and as an adult ones behaviour with the rest of the society is largely decided by the
socio-economic conditions he has grown up in.

As far the hospital, the mode of collecting money is concerned, Imran has, indeed, smartly used his connections. Imran doesn't own a business empire and I believe he has ploughed in his money too. The question is, hasn't he brought hopes to millions of destitute cancer persons who would have been counting their last days.

I, personally, don't see anything wrong in the way he raised money for the hospital. Didn't we organize cricket matches and Star Nites to riase money for the earth quake victims? I hope we have more Imrans amidst us...

:)

Re: # 51
Vengat...
Ans: I was expecting this answer (Cancer hospital). He has named it after his mother's name and collected money using entire Pakistani cricket team!!! Is this very good example? ...To be a good leader, you need to mingle with people, feel their pulse and create network. JP and M K Gandhi was good example of this. In this respect, Subhash Chandra Bose failed little. Whatever intention he must be having, the leader needs to take people along with him, make them feel, he is one amongst them. Gandhi had deliberately chosen the dress (single cloth), such that common villagers easily can identify Gandhi with himself....

Re: # 50
Masadi...
Ans: Before looking into Israel, why don't you look at Bangladesh/Pakistan?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Bangladesh
Simil ar story repeats for Copts in Egypt...
If India can accomodate Bengalee refugees, why not Arabs take back their brothers from Israel?
For Israel, jew demands can be justified through sequence of historical events and archeological proofs. It it their land...Just for the sake of status quo, it is unethical (I am not sure anything that sort is available in Islam) attack them.
Israel is the only place in Middle East, where there is no oil available. They are surviving due to hard work and intelligence. Arabs are leading miserable life due to their incompetence....
You are typical Paki/moslem. You need everything from others, but when it is your turn to give away, hell breaks loose...

* The effort he put into the Cancer hospital

The effort he has put into the Cancer hospital

Nkg,

Re: # 48

"Apart from playing cricket, how much time Imran Khan had spent for the people of Pakistan?"

Imran is genuinely a good man and he is one of the top leaders in the sub-continent. The effort he put into the Cancer hospital is something we all should recognise.

It is the duty of the people to buttress good leaders. Good leaders necessarliy need not be popular...

nkg your infantile rambling makes no sense. If India had taken over 2/3rd of Bangladesh, excommunicated its people to mulit-generation refugee status and then militarily enforeced its rule with checkpoints and barbarism on the rest of the 1/3, reducing that area to one of the highest poverty levels in the world, and then used that occupation to contour governments and politics around the entire region of the middle east, then we could have some semblance of a comparison to the catastrophie that has taken place in Israel occupied Palestine. You as every other bigot have no access to any facts, know shit except the religious label of the people you pronounce against, and godforbid if that label happens to be Muslim then the a-hole that you are you will find any and every excuse in the book to label them criminal. F you and F your goddamned gutter mentality...

Re: # 37
Masadi...
http://israel.rationalreality.com

ANs: Can you stop this sh**?
In Iraq, Sudan, Pakistan people (or beter to say Islamic mentality) is responsible of large scale killing...Is there any point blaming outsiders for this? It is like blaming British people for carnage in 1947 in India.
Regarding Israel, only 4% of Arab land to the decendants of the people who have created Jerusalem, Jericho, Bethehlem etc. and for that, moslems need to kill those people!!!! 4000 years of their heritage ravaged by Romans and moslems. Christians at least admit their folly. When moslems will be civilised and be sensitive to them?
I was watching a news channel (Indian). One family (Palestinian)in New Delhi narrated the story, how Shia Militants in Iraq used to kill the migrants and forced people to migrate to other countries. This is definitely crisis of basic human value, not created by US marines. Bring bit of humanity into thought process...every problem will vanish...
Couple of questions...
How many Palestininians need to be relocated? 2 Million at most...Is the number too high, when 1.5 million is displaced in Darfur conflict?
Around 40 Million Bangldeshi and their descendants are living in India (including Moslems) (Assam, West Bengal, Tripura)...Still India is surviving...

Re: # 40
People with the "cops and robbers" analysis cannot understand social structure, the relationship between the various institutions in a society, when politicians try to do the right thing they end up like Imran Khan, marginalized, a laughing stock and without the benefits of going along with Army rule

Ans: If the politician has credibility and proper communication skill, he can change entire nation. Indira Gandhi and Congress was destabilised by Jayprakash Narayan and his movement....Apart from playing cricket, how much time Imran Khan had spent for the people of Pakistan? How many pro-people activities he was involved? Everybody can critisize, but those who make positive contribution, people keep them longer period in mind...

Re: # 23
According to official files and papers released by the US, India's next target was West Pakistan and the military objective was to cut the country into half.

Ans: I don't think so. A disturbed Pakistan would have caused less nuicense to India than current one. Huge humanitarian crisis in Bangladesh (refugee influx) was the major cause of Indian intervention. USSR (they dislike theocratic states like Israel and Pakistan alike) wanted to create another country and bring that in their fold. So, they have supported India and Bangladesh....
If Pakistan was united, then two problems would have dogged Pakistan . Political power should have been with eastern wing, as their population is more. That would have created tension as the two wings were culturally way apart. It was bound to create political tension. Bangladesh, being a region prone to natural disaster, it was certain that large section of Bengali migration in west wing causing mohajir problem in west wing....
Pakistan got rid of a host of problems with separation with eastern wing and India invited unnecessary hazards...
Hape you Pakisnatis tried to analyse, what India will gain defeating Pakistan militarily? India can never Govern the land, as Pakistan was not created by British against the will of people. The migration/killing of non-moslems from West Pakistan made no option of West Pakistan coming under Indian umbrella. Those who talk about East and West Germany, they are fools. The problem of Pakistan was with identity (whether to stick to ancestral root or go with mediaval middle east barbaric looters....).

izuber writes "If masadi is the author of the books he implies to be, I would earnestly request him to sober up and appear as intellectually sociologist as advertised, otherwise, based on his public disposition I am led to believe that he is no other than a "mossadi" attempting to contaminate literature on Islamic topics as normally expected by "mossadies"."


For a person who joined Chowk less than a month ago, this fool has the audacity to comment on who I am and what I write. First he claims I'm mossad- the kind that busts the Israeli mythology about their right on Palestine in a most comprehensive manner in my article, next he claims I am impersonating myself! masadi is trying to be Muhammed Asadi...go figure, and then after using all kinds of BS and insults against me, he complains that I do not "practice what I preach". First, I don't "preach" anything to dimwits like you whose only "brains" are in their crotch. Second, I don't give a damn about what you think I may or may not be. Third, my contributions to this site are a mountain compared to the half a pee drop that you have contributed. Now go __ yourself.

rf: Keep talking about "personal responsibility" in your "cops and robbers" analysis, when personal responsibility is punished in a social system and leads to the gallows or to isolation and alienation. If that structure is not changed, regardless of "personal responsibility" those rewarded will always be the opportunists who bow to military overlordship- and so those that populate that structure will similarly be the same, the others will bark and sit outside pontificating their utopias, like Imran Khan, while losing their lives, wealth and families- that is too high a cost for "personal responsibility" and politicians working within a corrupt structure avoid that cost. Dimwits like you wont understand, keep to the cops and robbers BS.

Hamid: yesterday you showed us all how you F yourself. Why don't you repeat that and go F yourself...