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Re: # 76
Vengat...
This is the reason for the hatred unleashed by RSS type Hindus on Gandhiji here on Chowk.
Ans: Gandhi and RSS had enough mutual admiration... Gwalkar's indian socialism matches with that of Gandhi...

Re: # 79

Majumdar,

How can Gandhi manifest out of a "A mixture of reasons". Yes, the effect was gruesome and very damaging for the Hindus, no doubt but what was the single most deciding cause?

Manto's strategy to hit out at Muslims' proclivity to violence is to bash Gandhi and attribute Moplah violence to him, which essentially was a Muslim enacted saga. This is his way of subtly telling Muslims about their faults.

Re: # 81

Nkg,

I don't contest the fact that one can be a good man, a moderate Hindu and an RSS member. I don't say all RSS members are Gandhi haters but almost all of the haters/hate emanates from RSS.

Vengat,

Re: 82

Why wud YLH want to subtly denigrate Muslims when it is alleged that he wants to become a minister in Pakistan? Btw the whole crux of his argument is not Muslims propensity to violence but MKG's refusal to condemn the same, in fact his tacit encouragement of the same.

Nkg,

A man who compromised with the worst elements among Islamic fundoosim maybe the hero of lots of people but cannot be the same of patriotic Hindoo Injuns (like me) or right thinking Pakis (like YLH)

Regards

Vengat

(but almost all of the haters/hate emanates from RSS. )

FYI,

Neither me nor Ranjit bhai nor YLH nor Aisha boudi are RSS members.

Regards

Majumdar,

Kaal Bhai, I assume is from the Advaita school of thought, which rejects dualism. So, for him, good and bad represent the same thing and it is not difficult to conclude Gandhi is a bad man as it is no different from Gandhi being called bad...:)

Hamidm Saab, you have to be very careful with him...You know he loves to be oxymoronic...When he said Horrible Hindoos, you should have taken the hint...

Ranjit Saab, speaks his true emotions only when the topic veers to IITs...Apart from that he is content to live in UP , working on the icons...He is taking tuitions from our Salim Saab on humor...

* it is not difficult to conclude Gandhi is a bad man as it is no different from Gandhi being called bad

it is not difficult to conclude Gandhi was a bad man as it is no different from Gandhi being called good.

Vengat,

Thanks for clarifying on Ranjit bhai and Kaal bhai. Now can you shed some light on the RSS roots of Yasser mian and Aisha boudi.

Regards

Re: # 88

Majumdar,

I haven't interacted with Aisha boudi.

As far YLH I have told you the reason behind his vitriol against Gandhi :). Its his way to bash Muslims...Gandhi is just a decoy...Don't take him seriously...Everytime he speaks bad about Gandhi, he will invariably bring about Gandhi's himalayan blunder of supporting the Khilafat movement which lead to Moplah violence and describe in glory all the gruesome details of how Hindus were murdered by Muslims. His emphasis is like, "See wherever there is violence, one of the parties will be Muslims" :)...

Maju Anna,

Just because I don't end with 'regards', please do not assume that I have no regards for you. I have the highest regards for you :)...

Vengat,

YLH has no intention to disparage Muslims in spite of being excommunicated from the faith. His objection to MKG is to the fact that he pandered to the worst lot within the Muslim community, a tradition which has been faithfully continued by INC since independence. This has done no one, Hindoo or Muslim any good.

Regards

Re: # 91

Majumdar,

Who could have been the 'best lot of' the Muslims, who would have undertaken the difficult task of fighting for independence on the streets...

Vengat,

(Who could have been the 'best lot of' the Muslims)

MAJ (pbuh)

(who would have undertaken the difficult task of fighting for independence on the streets...)

No need to do that. The war of Indian independence was won on the streets of Paris, Berlin, Dunkirk et al.

Regards

Re: # 93

Majumdar,

Great...You are speaking about somebody who was not considered as a representative of the Muslims. He was a stooge for the British who had no popular backing and I don't think Muslims of that day could have taken him for a leader...

"No need to do that. The war of Indian independence was won on the streets of Paris, Berlin, Dunkirk et al."

I am stumped...

Vengat,

(You are speaking about somebody who was not considered as a representative of the Muslims.)

Says who?

(He was a stooge for the British)

Proof?

(who had no popular backing)

And yet he won a landslide in 1946!

Regards

"No need to do that. The war of Indian independence was won on the streets of Paris, Berlin, Dunkirk et al."

All colonial forces had to leave Asia... after WW II. We should thank the Japanese for bringing and early end to uropean colonial rule.