War of Another Kind

#241 Posted by tahmed32 re #224

Whatever the outcome, it seems to me the only thing to watch out for is - will the people of fata have the basic rights the prompted the Chief Justice to take a stand against dictatorship in the first place? Will they be able to vote in free and fair elections for local leaders, or will they continue to be ruled by unelected rulers in the name of "tradition"?

Well ... there was a huge rally of Pakistani Taliban at Khar in Bajaur Agency yesterday addressed by the Deputy Chief Maulvi Umar. Clips were shown on TV. It was quite intriguing to see barely 12-13 year old kids deftly handling AK-47s as guards. Quite amazing. These people mean business ... that's for sure. In fact I don't know how come a predator didn't appear? There were thousands of Taliban in one place which would ordinanarily have been a godsend for the americans.

Anyhow, the clear demand laid out was 'Islamic System' in their areas. So I guess the form of democratic system prevalent in Pakistan will not be acceptable to them. They will continue as quasi-independent as before, though this time under Sharia rule instead of the FCRA.

My own sense is that the forces of change (economic progress due to international community viewing such investments as being in their own immediate interest; opening of fata residents to the outside world due to emigration, education - there are some highly educated people from fata working around the world; impact of a dynamic media in pakistan) in fata are getting stronger by the day. What do you think?

Yes it is quite possible the above occurs. If only we are able to politically accommodate the demands of the FATA people (which we consider unpalatable i.e. Sharia rule &/or support to the Afghan Resistance), I believe the FATA region has great potential in resources and manpower.

#230 Posted by MrsSharma,

LoL ... interesting new incarnation Jayp! Why this particular one? I thought this was the name assigned to a particular indian interactor's wife whose weight, girth, occupation, and rate of remuneration have been the subject of some speculation ...

Re: zee -... has anything changed. Has there been a value shift in the political demands, did any party talk about law and order, jobs and water shortages.

You must be kidding. The minimum wage has been increased from Rs. 4,5000/p.m to Rs. 6,000/p.m, one-job per family has been committed, the 30-day judiciary restoration countdown starts from today, and brick-lining of irrigation canals has been announced as the first quick-win project in conserving water by preventing seepage. All this is even 'before' the Government has been sworn-in which is today.

I thought injuns were more adept at reading Pakistani news than Pakistanis themselves!! Missed them yesterday?

#121 by zeemax

Point is, you ignoramus, that if something never existed before (though it actually did for some fifty years), it doesn't mean it can never exist!

Tying yourself up in knots, are you? You keep claiming that Muslim civilization has never been vanquished before. Going by the logic in this post, doesn't it mean it can be vanquished?

Re: # 249

I agree, Pakis must has mastered the technology of car parts that they can be rigged as bombs........the sickness of momeen mind is so typical that it even affects the closet murtids that they also behave exactly like the Islamists outwordly even if they remain murtids in thought!!!

Re: # 248; Hamidm Sahib

a quick question. It has bothered me for a long time; even more than "the chicken and egg" dilemma!

Why do Indians bob their heads from side to side when the speak?

Cheers

#245 Posted by mohar11 on March 30, 2008 4:04:32 pm


Yep, while hanoods are "taking over" the world of automobile with their Tatas


hamidm's brothers have a lock on the auto parts business..i.e. making automobile parts from automobiles i.e. car bombers market...

Re: # 245

mohar,


.... batas? .... who the heck are they ? ......... i thought it was a swiss/chezk shoe company whose products have been used to terrorize children for many generations ........ my butt still hurts when i hear that name - don't tell me you dastardly hindoos are behind this chamber of horrors !

Re: # 240

tahmed

"The Oriental doesn't put the same high price on life as does a Westerner. Life is plentiful. Life is cheap in the Orient."

Re: # 243

anil mian,

.... either the guy had bunions or he was an indian in disguise ........ another question: why don't desi men clip their ear and nose hair ? ..... even observant jihadis who religiously shave their armpits and pubic hair have the same problem .......... what's up with that ?

Yep, while hanoods are "taking over" the world of automobile with their Tatas and world of high fashion with their Batas - hamidm's compatriots are running wild in ankle length pants with a bombs on their chests and dreams of 72 virgins in their hearts.... :)

Now anil, if he was wearing bata's then he would certainly be a fashionista...:-)

Re: # 233

Hamidm Sahib:

... but here is a more important question for you: why do indian men wear sneakers with dress pants - it bothers the crap out of me !..."

Until last week this used to blow the heck out of me too. A friend of mine is visiting from Chicago, and both of us went to Gucci Store in Santana Row here in San Jose last week. A blue-eyed tall blonde all american salesperson in impeccable blue suit walked up to us to greet us.

Guess what else he was wearing.

Yes, white sneekers!!!!!

Neither of us could take the eyes of, and at simultaneously said, "Indian Fashion Has Arrived at Gucci".

I wonder if any Indian has patented it.

hamid
[....why do indian men wear sneakers with dress pants...]

or for that matter, open toe sandals with dress pants... who knows?... hanood fashion works in mysterious ways...

But it's still better than wearing ankle pajamas and a vest stuffed with dynamite - like what zeemax and urstruly are wearing right now...:)

#224 zeemax: You are right that pakistani military incursion into fata broke the long-standing "deal" the locals had made with the brits and which the Pakistani governments carried forward.

As the pm said, at least the ball has been set rolling in considering the FCR issue. No doubt an open debate in the NA creates the possibility of a reasonable solution. Options range from 1. retaining the status quo (i.e. fata are "special territories") to 2. making fata a fourth province to 3. making fata additional districts as part of NWFP.

Whatever the outcome, it seems to me the only thing to watch out for is - will the people of fata have the basic rights the prompted the Chief Justice to take a stand against dictatorship in the first place? Will they be able to vote in free and fair elections for local leaders, or will they continue to be ruled by unelected rulers in the name of "tradition"?

My own sense is that the forces of change (economic progress due to international community viewing such investments as being in their own immediate interest; opening of fata residents to the outside world due to emigration, education - there are some highly educated people from fata working around the world; impact of a dynamic media in pakistan) in fata are getting stronger by the day.

What do you think?

hamidm #226 i have told you many times that namecalling is not an argument. you have been calling for for banning masadi who has the same problem - are going to call for yourself to be banned now?

as for what westmoreleand, i told you not to hide behind someone who is not around to speak for himself.

I wont waste time going around in circles with you. Just remember those four fingers you have been pointing at yourself that I brought to your attention next time you get the urge to start insulting poor people from your high and lofty perch in michigan.

#222 zeemax: "I welcome that double edged sword. There must be justice to all - period. That's the first principle. Everything else is secondary."

So we are agreed on this central issue then.