War of Another Kind

Re: # 143 Zeemax

you are a 42 carat idiot.

What does "ana-al-huque" mean to you? I am not talking about the literal meaning here.

And btw, how do YOU reconcile with YOUR Islam. Or is it the same 'ends justifying the means' business.

Any way, I have work to do which clearly you don't have to!

There was an egyptian guy in a trade fair who was selling bottled drink of camel's milk mixed with the URINE!!

And he was rightly quoting the hadith in its marketing drive!!!

he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.


So mo killed them for killing the camel because a dead camel means no more camel urine...

peeweemax..now i know why cabs driven by pakis stink..it's the drivers drinking pbuh cola...

Re: # 141

laddu,

.... i don't know how to tell you this, but the isi is simply doing its duty by trying to help the people of kashmir in their struggle for liberation ...... as long as they don't interfere in pakistan's internal politics and make sure that the jihadis they push over the border don't make it back alive, they are doing okay ..... this way we get to kill two birds (or one jihadi and one hindoo) with one stone .... actully, in islamic mythology, since a mohammedan is equal to ten kafirs, we will be killing eleven crows with one stone !

... sorry, but that is just the way the papad crumbles

p.s. one of these days zeemax will also sign up for duty with the moon god's army from hell and cheema sahib will not have to fight him on this forum ..........

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cheema sahib,

......... i have been a muslim all my life and i didn't know that i was supposed to drink camel urine ..... how disgusting!...... the reason i didn'd revert to grandpa gopinath's religion is because i was afraid they would shave my head and make me drink cow urine! .... i also understand that the christians drink human blood with their cookies at church every sunday - is that true? .... why are all religions so obsessed with body fluids ? ........ it makes me sick !

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#142 Posted by akcheema,

Thank you sir, for now we'll say no more on the subject.

Of-course. What more do you have to say? You quoted a Hadees and I told you word by word what it means. You don't know anything re Muhammad or the Suhaba. These were amazing people. They had ways to do things which people still look forward to emulate. Things like this Hadees are why Islam cannot be defeated. There are practical examples for every situation....as to how these should be handled.

Muhammad asked the (suspected spies) to wander off with the camels and drink their piss using that as a ruse to give them an opportunity to reveal themselves (of-course they never actually drank any camel piss ... they just were lured for the camels) tested them, and when it was proven who they were when they killed the shepherd and stole the camels - gave them an exemplary punishment which is still remembered and followed.

If anyone (including you) is so stupid to read the camel piss as medicine story and believe that's what Muhammad meant ... hehe, they should at-least ask when and where was camel piss used as medicine in Arabia.

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Re: # 150

".. i have been a muslim all my life a...."

what a joke!!!

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Re: # 150; Hamidm sahib

sorry can't stay for long. Zee is still here and going strong; may be he can throw some light for you!

btw; Here is another interpretation of the same Hadees by someone else, a muslim scholar called Abdul Hafeez (I don't know who he is but that is besides the point):

[Further from brother Abdul Hafiz; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.

The Prophet prescribing Camel Urine as medicine:

First of all, let us clarify the reason and story behind the prescription. Some people had become very ill at the time of the prophet, and were suffering from an unknown illness. Their bellies had swollen and they were not in a fit state. Hence, the prophet said to them, that they would find a cure in the milk and urine of a camel and so he sent them out to an area where camels were grazing. These men went to this area and drank the milk and urine. Sure enough, just like the Prophet said, they were cured and became fit and healthy.

However, at the same time, evil thoughts entered their minds and they decided they wanted the camels for themselves. They therefore killed the owner, and made off with the camels. When news of the murder reached the prophet, he sent an envoy to capture the men, and when they were captured and brought before the prophet, capital punishment was meted out to them.

Having read this story, what do we conclude from it? The answering islam team would have us believe that this Hadith means that drinking camel urine is permissible in Islam. This is INCORRECT. The real meaning of this Hadith is that if a person needs to consume an impure and impermissible substance as a cure for an illness, and no other reasonable alternative is available, then it is permissible. In all other circumstances, camel urine is prohibited.

Wassalaam]

May be Zeemax can also explain why HIS interpretation is different and why one should believe HIS version more that Joe Bloggs?

Happy drinking Zee....I told you Barossa Valley Shiraz was much better but you wouldn't listen!!