Surviving Musharraf's Exit?

LOL, kaal...how would tampax do that while he trying to dodge hellfires paid for by your tax dollars? What kind of friend are you to poor Tampax? you are acting like the very hindu, mooh mein ram ram...etc etc. ;-)

the way it seems, tampax will be trying to fight his muslim compadres first, as we see in pakistan, afghanistsn, Iraq, Palestine...etc. seems like the US has really carved them up real nice ;-)

Re: # 447

alpha,

kaal is a rss agent who wants to drive out the muslims from india ........ isn't that evident ?

OK, CA, let's leave it at that, and I will hide zee from you :)

Just know that zee does not intend to follow any of the stategies that you have in mind. He won't gather in one country, he won't launch a national war, or follow any of the international protocols you have set up.

He will simply keep reaching toward your throat, and once he grabs it, he will squeeze it, while your arms are busy bombing elsewhere.

Waise, he uses a nice frog in hot water imagery that he might explain some day again.

Peace now? :)

442

Now hamid - what has this to do with secularism in britain?... what did brits do to deserve this?

hamidm, the mindset you talk about is a self fulfilling and circular prophecy. You shoudl ask kaal, brother has been going around in circles trying to hold on to some illogical specialness of muslims. According to him, it all starts with "because it says so in the quran, it is true..because quran is the word of god...and god is infallible...because it says so in the quran"

Now, when you are dealing with followers of such logic, and in absence of little yellow school buses that come at a premium in the muslim world...the only thing you can do is pat Kaal on the top of the head and say "shabbash....ja daru la..table vable saaaf kar na re!"

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LOL, guru ji, hopefully some of your friends are harijan too, and you invite them over to your house for lunch/dinner....:)

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Surely, you do, we don't want some of us remain stuck at the level of drivers and maids. Otherwise mayawati amma will be upset. LOL
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Coconut Anil mentioned kitchen and home. I responded to that. What do you know about Mayawati? Have you met?

Curious who is behind this site? Who finances it? Is it SAja? Are u guys paid? We know who is behind SAJA.

I would advise Pakis to visit real India and stay for six months and stop visiting the sites like these. It's probably meant for people who have nothing to do with India or Pakistan.

Re: # 433

"Which century is this?.."

I would ask which India do you live? The way you talk it cannot be Today's India.

"Driver is Harijan, maid is Harijan and last week attended two Harijan Buddhist marriages which included lunch. "

I laud you for this, Guruji.

hamidm2

I call them a nation of the mind.

Eklavya, religion is not race, but it is simply one attribute that can define a human. folks like you might choose to have it be the defining force for yourself but the 5/6th of humanity doesn't. And you simply don;t have the strength, innovative prowess or the power to stop the 5/6th of humanity. So I would suggest, you hold on dearly to tampax and hide him in a safe safe place before the bad bad kaffirs and murtids and yahoodis come and get him...:-)

thank god for jinnah...if it weren't for him, the news would be "brits of indian extraction..."

MUSLIM TERRORISTS WANTED TO INFLICT 'HEAVY CASUALTIES'



A GROUP of Islamist terrorists plotted to blow up several passenger planes with liquid explosives, a court heard today.

A gang of eight men accused of planning to blow up transatlantic aircraft whilst in mid-air wanted to inflict “heavy casualties”, it was alleged at Woolwich Crown Court today.

Prosecutor Peter Wright said the victims of the terror attacks would have been an “unwitting civilian population” and that the men planned to inflict the casualties all in the name of Islam with a series of coordinated explosions.

Woolwich Crown Court heard how homemade devices would have been smuggled on to aircraft and detonated in flight by a suicide bomber, had the alleged plot not been foiled by counter terrorist police in August 2006.

All eight men - Mohammed Gulzar, Umar Islam, Ibrahim Savant, Waheed Zaman, Assad Sarwar, Abdullah Ahmed Ali, Arafat Khan, and Tanvir Hussain - deny conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to carry out an explosion on board an aircraft.

Mr Wright told the jury the defendants were “almost ready to put their plot into practice” at the time of their arrests.

“The disaster they contemplated was not long off,” he said.

The men and others were prepared to board the aircraft carrying their “deadly cargo” and detonate it in flight, he said.

Mr Wright said Abdulla Ahmed Ali from Walthamstow, Assad Sarwar and Mohammed Gulzar were the main men behind the murderous plot.

“They intended to construct and detonate a device that would bring about not only the loss of their own lives but also all those that happened to be taking, by chance, the same journey.

“Unfortunately for these men, but to the considerable good fortune of those that were their intended targets of those devices their activities had come to the attention of the police,” he said.

Mr Wright told the court police had watched several members of the gang for many months.

He said: “From what had been observed in the days and months prior to the arrests it was realised that these men, together with others, were engaged in some sort of terrorist plot.”

The court heard how Ali and Gulzar were watched by police as they met frequently at a flat in Forest Road, Walthamstow, to make final preparations.

Police recovered a computer memory stick belonging to Ali which contained detailed information about flights and airport security, the jury was told.

“The memory stick contained details in respect of flight timetables, baggage information, security advice in respect of restricted items and other information about Heathrow airport,” said Mr Wright.

The jury was shown files on the memory stick giving details of flights from Heathrow to cities in North America including Boston, Denver, Chicago, Miami, New York and Montreal.

The information included the airline, terminal at Heathrow, departure times, arrival times, flight numbers, aircraft type and number of stops, the court heard.

The information on the memory stick focused only on one-way flights from Heathrow. These were all commercial airliners with passenger capacities of almost 300 people per plane.

“Collectively the flights were each of them non-stop transatlantic journeys to north American destinations,” said Mr Wright.

Of the flights on the memory stick, seven had been highlighted, the jury was told. They were on three airlines - Air Canada, United Airlines and American Airlines.

Re: # 436

alpha mian,


that is exactly what my buddy tehsin abbasi said about the arabs in israel - he compared them to the ghetto blacks ...... actually , the problem is much worse in the muslim community because they live in the ghetto of their minds even though they might reside in the nicer sunbburbs .... that is what makes them different and more dangerous ....

Secularism is a notional identity.

Especially in India, its origin is in the perception that religionists to act, cross "notional" limits of their religion. If religionists are not perceived to cross then secular identity is unnecessary.

To great majority, religion has a very limited relevance in daily lives. Other factors take precedence, these include, survival, economic necessities, relaxation and entertainment in the remaining time.

De-institutionalized nature of religion (no equivalent of Friday prayers, or Sunday services), both passive and negative nature of institutionalized castes (little that is productive comes of out being grouped together) - no brahim only schools, no kshatriya only army etc., renders it unattractive to coalesce around religion until there is a perceived threat or emotional outcry.

Thank God, that there are only 24 hours in a day to fit and play out all the dynamics of daily survival, else Hamidm Sahib would be dealing with more than Massaddi Mian.

People project themselves through this "secular" identity to create a notional group, as if it is needed to compete with communal groups which attempt to bond people within a common belief or religion.

Indeed secularism can be viewed as the biggest reactionary force in India. This force may have a positive influence, and be always necessary to counter balance the others.

There is no doubt that its effect cannot be observed, let alone measured. Therefore, I personally think it may amount to nothing more than hot air of the politicians during the election time.

Re: # 436 CA

Kaal is a crafty fella affiliated to RSS... He is driving home the point that muslims are "special" and dangerous, unless stopped with force, they will overwhelm the kafirs... he is raising the red flag, very sneakily, even pakis think he is their friend.... :)

Aaah, so neembu ji has convinced you that religion is race!! That's one notch in her belt!! :)

CA, that's too much a distance to cover (if you actually believe what you wrote). Let's agree to disagree. Peace.

Also forgot the financial adviser is one Mr. Kamble who is Harijan. A smart one like him was hard to find. We never talk about caste but I know the last name belongs to Harijan.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344409,00.html

No one need to teach secularism to Dharmic people. Anil coconut is ignoramus fellow. But Pakis beware, these gandus are more detrimental to your survival. You might start believing that India is really divided along the caste line that you can hoist green zanda easily on red fort by exploiting the division among Indians.

eklavya, what is the difference between blacks in the ghettos and muslim ghettos of greater paris? Absolutely nothing....you seem to think that muslim ghettos seem to be some divinely inspired and righteous enclaves that cannot be dealt with..until the early 1990's Manhattan itself was divided as below 96th street and above 96th street. Cops, whites, asians, and even well to do blacks didn;t go there...it changed because the danda came along with economic push. Same thing will happen in greater paris.

Muslims are not that special...which you keep purporting. They are not some other species of people. And as far as bombing etc...no one would be bombing if muslims themselves took care of their own shit. there are a lot of similarities between the ghetto black culture and the jihadi mindset. neither however, scare anyone.