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#161 Posted by CreateAlpha on April 1, 2008 5:58:33 am
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#162 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:01:34 am
#160 Posted by hamidm2,
Idiot! Everyone knows inflation is a phenomenon created by muttarraf/short-cut team and noone expects it not to keep growing for a while! No party has promised to bring it down because noone can in the short-term! Fool! You know nothing what mutarraf has done with this country!
Idiot! Everyone knows inflation is a phenomenon created by muttarraf/short-cut team and noone expects it not to keep growing for a while! No party has promised to bring it down because noone can in the short-term! Fool! You know nothing what mutarraf has done with this country!
#163 Posted by arjun_5 on April 1, 2008 6:01:45 am
#145 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 5:30:32 am
speaking for myself, I don't want pakiland to fall apart..just for pakis to whack each other for a long long time to come...then we want sharia enforced in pakiland...putting the pure back in the land of the pure...
and trust me.,.whether indians want that or not has no bearing on reality...you're doing a great job just by yourself..
besides, I want pakiland to be around at least till jan 2011. you know..you told us kashmir would become pakiland by 2010..can't mock you if pakiland doesn't exist, can I?
speaking for myself, I don't want pakiland to fall apart..just for pakis to whack each other for a long long time to come...then we want sharia enforced in pakiland...putting the pure back in the land of the pure...
and trust me.,.whether indians want that or not has no bearing on reality...you're doing a great job just by yourself..
besides, I want pakiland to be around at least till jan 2011. you know..you told us kashmir would become pakiland by 2010..can't mock you if pakiland doesn't exist, can I?
#164 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:02:44 am
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#165 Posted by GT on April 1, 2008 6:03:36 am
#143 Posted by hamidm2:
".. gilani is 'fair' and tall which automatically gives him 50+20 points on the rishta.com scale .."
There you go again. Arre bhai, the hair! The HAIR? It takes everything away. Have you seen Laloo's hair cut? Now there you have style.
".. gilani is 'fair' and tall which automatically gives him 50+20 points on the rishta.com scale .."
There you go again. Arre bhai, the hair! The HAIR? It takes everything away. Have you seen Laloo's hair cut? Now there you have style.
#166 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:07:23 am
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#167 Posted by arjun_5 on April 1, 2008 6:11:02 am
#166 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:07:23 am
couldn't care less...one less inbred retard paki, one less terrorist...
couldn't care less...one less inbred retard paki, one less terrorist...
#168 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:15:27 am
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#169 Posted by ferozk on April 1, 2008 6:21:42 am
re: zeemax # 153
Zeemax, by all accounts, Pakistan has serious economic problems and the reason for giving the finance portofolio to PML-N was that PPP wanted to make sure that PML-N got its share of blame too. As PPP has accepted the ownership of the GWOT, it will be blamed for it, as time goes on, and had it not shared the blame, with PML-N, it would have allowed Nawaz Sharif to reap a political windfall at its expense and would have paid for this dearly at during the next elections.
There is nothing remarkable in the distribution of the assignments, because like any other coalition, this one too is interested in sharing the credit and blame alike. Let us wait till the end of the first 100 days of this government and see if there has been progress. There are serious problems to be solved and once this government has its fill of populism, it will realize that solutions will require policies and not speeches and as I said to tahmed32, the nation's patience level is very low; almost non-existant and it will not tolerate an extension of the honeymoon period for this government beyond the 100 days of its goverance.
The best we can hope for is that all stake holders in Pakistan will soon realize the wisdom of moving away from their maxmalist positions towards a common consensus on major policies. We should not be too surprised if we see a movement in that direction. The civilians would have to listen to the military and take the military on board in formulating a policy on GWOT and in return, the military would be expected to vacate the sphere of civilian authority and remove itself from non-military aspects of politics in Pakistan.
Let me hazard a moment of unguarded optimism and suggest that parliamentary style of government generally has been more inclined towards coalition governments, because such governments naturally create a sense of checks and balances, based on a common interest - the willingness to stay in power - and such governments then offer themselves to a more transparent nature of policy discourse, whereby policies of unilateralism are discouraged because it tends to fray the coalition political interests, i.e staying in power.
This government has a very hard task before it and it has to do everything right at the first go and has no room for mistakes, for such is the expectation levels of the common person in Pakistan. I have my doubts about how long will government last, but I still wish this government the best simply because it will need all the luck it can muster in the comming days and weeks ahead.
Ciao
Zeemax, by all accounts, Pakistan has serious economic problems and the reason for giving the finance portofolio to PML-N was that PPP wanted to make sure that PML-N got its share of blame too. As PPP has accepted the ownership of the GWOT, it will be blamed for it, as time goes on, and had it not shared the blame, with PML-N, it would have allowed Nawaz Sharif to reap a political windfall at its expense and would have paid for this dearly at during the next elections.
There is nothing remarkable in the distribution of the assignments, because like any other coalition, this one too is interested in sharing the credit and blame alike. Let us wait till the end of the first 100 days of this government and see if there has been progress. There are serious problems to be solved and once this government has its fill of populism, it will realize that solutions will require policies and not speeches and as I said to tahmed32, the nation's patience level is very low; almost non-existant and it will not tolerate an extension of the honeymoon period for this government beyond the 100 days of its goverance.
The best we can hope for is that all stake holders in Pakistan will soon realize the wisdom of moving away from their maxmalist positions towards a common consensus on major policies. We should not be too surprised if we see a movement in that direction. The civilians would have to listen to the military and take the military on board in formulating a policy on GWOT and in return, the military would be expected to vacate the sphere of civilian authority and remove itself from non-military aspects of politics in Pakistan.
Let me hazard a moment of unguarded optimism and suggest that parliamentary style of government generally has been more inclined towards coalition governments, because such governments naturally create a sense of checks and balances, based on a common interest - the willingness to stay in power - and such governments then offer themselves to a more transparent nature of policy discourse, whereby policies of unilateralism are discouraged because it tends to fray the coalition political interests, i.e staying in power.
This government has a very hard task before it and it has to do everything right at the first go and has no room for mistakes, for such is the expectation levels of the common person in Pakistan. I have my doubts about how long will government last, but I still wish this government the best simply because it will need all the luck it can muster in the comming days and weeks ahead.
Ciao
#170 Posted by CheGuevara on April 1, 2008 6:24:25 am
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#171 Posted by arjun_5 on April 1, 2008 6:26:13 am
#168 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:15:27 am
aww...the inbred retard impotent wannabe jihadi warrior is pissed...
what happened? did one of your brothers/sisters/nephews/nieces get whacked?
bring that up the next time a grim faced centcom chief comes visiting pakiland..you know..to make you all grease up and bend over...
aww...the inbred retard impotent wannabe jihadi warrior is pissed...
what happened? did one of your brothers/sisters/nephews/nieces get whacked?
bring that up the next time a grim faced centcom chief comes visiting pakiland..you know..to make you all grease up and bend over...
#172 Posted by CreateAlpha on April 1, 2008 6:42:05 am
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#173 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:53:30 am
#169 Posted by ferozk,
What you offer is a very simplistic view. 'Share the blame ... this is why'. This is understandable as most of the press was saying the same thing when PML-N was reluctant to join the Federal Cabinet. Nothing could be farther than the truth.
Since your post appears to be sincere, I will answer in some detail.
The problem with the Pakistan economy set up by musharraf is the 'Policy Direction'. It was not necessarily bad, but it was jumping the gun. Pakistan followed the Thailand example set by Thaksin, but Pakistan is not Thailand. I gave initial indication of what was going to happen in my FP article titled A historic Opportunity Lost or something like that two years ago, which came true. I wish it hadn't.
This can be fixed. The essentials of the Pakistan economy are intact, but the path has been set on the growth of external sector instead of the internal sector. When the external sector growth exceeded by a wide margin the internal one, a wide current account deficit along with spiraling inflation occured as well as depreciation of the Pakistan Rupee. All this was predictable, and economists had been shouting hoarse over it since 2003.
Now, PML-N knows how to manage economy like a business. They used the previous G-7 recession to pull in the Koreans (who had no where else to go) to set up infrastructure plus mega projects on BOT basis, creating employment and earnings growth without spending a penny from the National exchequer, and the same conditions exist again. G-7 is heading into recession, and the same techniques will be employed.
PML-N has experience of this stuff, and PPP knows that very well. This is why they are given Finance & Commerce because they're very very good at it - not any petty things like sharing of responsibility.
Only reason they didn't want to join was because musharraf is there, but they were persuaded in the better interest of the country. They would still have had Punjab, and they would have brought down PPP as well in the Centre in a year or so, but they decided not to do that and instead to go into a full coalition.
Regards
What you offer is a very simplistic view. 'Share the blame ... this is why'. This is understandable as most of the press was saying the same thing when PML-N was reluctant to join the Federal Cabinet. Nothing could be farther than the truth.
Since your post appears to be sincere, I will answer in some detail.
The problem with the Pakistan economy set up by musharraf is the 'Policy Direction'. It was not necessarily bad, but it was jumping the gun. Pakistan followed the Thailand example set by Thaksin, but Pakistan is not Thailand. I gave initial indication of what was going to happen in my FP article titled A historic Opportunity Lost or something like that two years ago, which came true. I wish it hadn't.
This can be fixed. The essentials of the Pakistan economy are intact, but the path has been set on the growth of external sector instead of the internal sector. When the external sector growth exceeded by a wide margin the internal one, a wide current account deficit along with spiraling inflation occured as well as depreciation of the Pakistan Rupee. All this was predictable, and economists had been shouting hoarse over it since 2003.
Now, PML-N knows how to manage economy like a business. They used the previous G-7 recession to pull in the Koreans (who had no where else to go) to set up infrastructure plus mega projects on BOT basis, creating employment and earnings growth without spending a penny from the National exchequer, and the same conditions exist again. G-7 is heading into recession, and the same techniques will be employed.
PML-N has experience of this stuff, and PPP knows that very well. This is why they are given Finance & Commerce because they're very very good at it - not any petty things like sharing of responsibility.
Only reason they didn't want to join was because musharraf is there, but they were persuaded in the better interest of the country. They would still have had Punjab, and they would have brought down PPP as well in the Centre in a year or so, but they decided not to do that and instead to go into a full coalition.
Regards
#174 Posted by zeemax on April 1, 2008 6:56:26 am
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#175 Posted by arjun_5 on April 1, 2008 6:58:40 am
#172 Posted by CreateAlpha on April 1, 2008 6:42:05 am
your friend slimy chuhan doesn't know his head from his ass
peeweemax knows his head from his ass...
outer container: ass..
empty container inside the outer container: head..
your friend slimy chuhan doesn't know his head from his ass
peeweemax knows his head from his ass...
outer container: ass..
empty container inside the outer container: head..
#176 Posted by mohar11 on April 1, 2008 6:58:48 am
Re: # 166 zee
Dude I told you - that mullah was a turn-coat who took kafir money but then switcehd over to taliban... hence the rocket...
Get it now?
Dude I told you - that mullah was a turn-coat who took kafir money but then switcehd over to taliban... hence the rocket...
Get it now?
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