Surviving Musharraf's Exit?

There is a posturing coincidence I mentioned on another board but it was missed.
The day Gilani was elected; some of the important appointments in the army were shuffled. This was a clear message to Mush to tone down. And that he would have no more unstinted military support.
Much of the army is also fed up of him, and what may cause a final showdown is the humiliation faced by the army because of Mush. I quote from my essay on Military mindset:

"As time passes, the new military chief will become more assertive. In due course the present intelligence chiefs will be posted out. Slowly chatter will flow into the ears of General Kayani. Fly by night reformers will try their best to gain access. Ideas will be proliferated and he will be urged. The mind set of 1935 will try to prevail once again. Knowing Kayani, he will do what he does best; listen and think".

My question is, Think What?

Re: # 37 HP

"balony?"

so you think Mushraff just peeled off his skin out of goodness of his heart? If my memory serves me right the current political parties could not muster a jaloos of few thousand against this dicattor; there was no wheel jam, no shutter-down, no gun-fight at mochi darwaza. The baRRi tind was dispatched back to SA in a next flight. benazir was assasinated; sindhi agitation has assuaged; musharaf had imposed 2nd martial law, media was under control. The only voice was that of lawyers. Do you think vicious usurpers like pak fouj give a shit about these little nuissences. What really has bitten their ass is the weekly suicide bombings targeting nothing but them. You don';t have to like jihadis but at least be honest to give the credit where it is due.

ijaz gul #38 Perhaps. But notice that Zardari is showing humility and non-vindictiveness now that he is in power - while Mush was arrogant in power, and is now all humility in defeat. That is the difference between a winner and a loser.

Indeed - it is this very "soft power" wielded by Zardari that has made him stronger.

What happened to Imran Khan? Like Zorro - he appeared when the nation needed him badly, and now that the forces of right have won, seems to have quietly ridden off in the sunset. doesnt even appear on TV interviews. No one talks of him.

#47 Look - just remember my words. in due course historians will realize that jehadis were in fact being promoted by musharraf (being the geese that laid his golden eggs - i.e. to stay in power and collect cash). ever wonder why he let the lal masjid mullahs become de facto parliament and police in islamabad, and took action only when they overstepped their limits (being stupid) and attacked chinese, thus bringing the chinese government down to pull his ears and demand punishment for the kidnappers of chinese women?

Re: # 16 Posted by hamidm2 on March 31, 2008 8:40:01 am

Hamid,

[a paki by definition is just an indian with a bad attitude]

hey wash your mouth. A paki is not a modern day indian, by any definition.

bubba: "modern day indian"? like thakeray? or Modi?

HP: I am multitasking. watching geo, wasting time on chowk, and pretending to work. :-)

Hamid,
Pinochet coup in Argentine was not the norm. it was a one time deal. Argentine before him was a democratic(or civilian rule) country for a long time. The army in Argentine stepped in to stop the un-mandated socialism that Allende tried to bring in.

Whereas in Pakistan, the army COAS believe that they own the country and are the true rulers. Some of them take over the country too and think that the country cannot survive w/o them.
So it is a necessary to bring down the army once for all. That is not going to be easy and we see another battle.

Sorry that was Chile not Argentine!

HP: there are 40,000 "missing people" in Chile due to pinochet. mush was well on his way to doing that if the CJ had not stopped him.

Tahmed,
I am not into multitasking. See how many mistakes I made in my post #56.

Re: # 52
A senior military officer operating in the tribal areas commented that USA had established a suicide bomber camp. Connect this with what the previous interior minister said live on TV; and there is food for thought.

tahmed writes "#47 Look - just remember my words. in due course historians will realize that jehadis were in fact being promoted by musharraf "

Once again this peon of the West will deliberately present half the picture. The complete sentence should have read: "#47 Look - just remember my words. in due course historians will realize that jehadis were in fact being promoted by musharraf ...just like musharraf was being promoted by the Americans who were encouraging him to add fuel to the Jihadi fire, and start one where none existed, for ulterior motive..

HP: By the way the Argentinian military might not be as vested in their political affairs as the Pakistani military by the overthorow of Allende was just as wrong as the overthrow of civilian governments in Pakistan by the military, the CIA according to its own acknowledgement had part in his overthrow- he was a well known socialist and the people elected him in 1970 knowing full well what he would do once in power so his socialism was not "undmandated"

g'night

iN #61 read "by the overthorow of Allende was just as wrong as the overthrow of civilian governments in Pakistan by the military"

as

"but the overthorow of Allende was just as wrong as the overthrow of civilian governments in Pakistan by the military.."

#59 HP: those are mere typos, my friend. On the military - so far, so good. Let's keep our fingers crossed. But the PMs policy statement with Kiyani next to him is very encouraging - i.e. Pakistan will have the smallest military budget consistent with an effective defence.