Zarrar Said April 2, 2008
#524 Posted by tahir on April 11, 2008 12:10:24 am
Re: # 484
Dear sparkplug,
Quoting the Qur'an out of context is the general sickness with which most of the wild west, and now YOU and your friends are afflicted.
9:5 must be read in context, here's a footnote that explains:
These words, addressed to the mushrikin ("those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God") who have deliberately broken the treaties in force between them and the believers, indicate a cancellation of all treaty obligations on the latters' part. The period of four months which is to elapse between this announcement and the beginning (or resumption) of hostilities is a further elaboration of the injunction "cast it [i.e., the treaty] back at them in an equitable manner", given in 8:58 with reference to a breach of covenant by hostile unbelievers (see also note 62 on verse 58 of surah 8).
NGK, here is something just for YOU:
ART THOU NOT aware that before God prostrate themselves all [things and beings] that are in the heavens and all that are on earth - the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the mountains, and the trees, and the beasts?
And many human beings (submit to God consciously],whereas many [others, having defied Him,] will inevitably have to suffer [in the life to come]; and he whom God shall scorn [on Resurrection Day] will have none who could bestow honour on him: for, verily, God does what He wills. (22:18)
So NGK, when you receive the punishment, it is for denying what is plain and obvious to those with eyes and thinking minds.
Again your quote scares the average reader as if all God does is punish every unbeliever (in His Power) arbitrarily!
And name the alleged forty wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace on him) for the benefit of ignorant Muslims. Please...
Return to your temple and consult with a divine before opening your mouth again.
Shaanti always.
Dear sparkplug,
Quoting the Qur'an out of context is the general sickness with which most of the wild west, and now YOU and your friends are afflicted.
9:5 must be read in context, here's a footnote that explains:
These words, addressed to the mushrikin ("those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God") who have deliberately broken the treaties in force between them and the believers, indicate a cancellation of all treaty obligations on the latters' part. The period of four months which is to elapse between this announcement and the beginning (or resumption) of hostilities is a further elaboration of the injunction "cast it [i.e., the treaty] back at them in an equitable manner", given in 8:58 with reference to a breach of covenant by hostile unbelievers (see also note 62 on verse 58 of surah 8).
NGK, here is something just for YOU:
ART THOU NOT aware that before God prostrate themselves all [things and beings] that are in the heavens and all that are on earth - the sun, and the moon, and the stars, and the mountains, and the trees, and the beasts?
And many human beings (submit to God consciously],whereas many [others, having defied Him,] will inevitably have to suffer [in the life to come]; and he whom God shall scorn [on Resurrection Day] will have none who could bestow honour on him: for, verily, God does what He wills. (22:18)
So NGK, when you receive the punishment, it is for denying what is plain and obvious to those with eyes and thinking minds.
Again your quote scares the average reader as if all God does is punish every unbeliever (in His Power) arbitrarily!
And name the alleged forty wives of Prophet Muhammad (peace on him) for the benefit of ignorant Muslims. Please...
Return to your temple and consult with a divine before opening your mouth again.
Shaanti always.
#523 Posted by nkg on April 11, 2008 12:04:46 am
Re: # 520
Jayp...
The problem with arithmetics for the muslims is a historical one and continues even today
Ans: Is it with muslims or with Muhammed? Muslims follow Muhammed it does not imply, they have to be like Muhammed...
I had met one guy, who was doing PhD in IISc(Banglaore) on Digital Signal Processing (IIT Grad in Electronics). I am against the Bibhuti business of Satya Saibaba ( bring that from sky). When I passed some nasty comment about that activity, he fired up. He was making claims that Saibaba knows more DSP than him etc...I was surprised, but circumstance forced me to controll myself (myslef an electronics engineering graduate)...
Jayp...
The problem with arithmetics for the muslims is a historical one and continues even today
Ans: Is it with muslims or with Muhammed? Muslims follow Muhammed it does not imply, they have to be like Muhammed...
I had met one guy, who was doing PhD in IISc(Banglaore) on Digital Signal Processing (IIT Grad in Electronics). I am against the Bibhuti business of Satya Saibaba ( bring that from sky). When I passed some nasty comment about that activity, he fired up. He was making claims that Saibaba knows more DSP than him etc...I was surprised, but circumstance forced me to controll myself (myslef an electronics engineering graduate)...
#522 Posted by tahir on April 10, 2008 11:51:07 pm
Re: # 479
"I unintentionally flagged your post when I meant to reply to it, for which I apologize. . ."
What was unintentional is always worth forgiving. Thanks for the double effort! It stands noted.
"I began posting here as ana years ago, and took on ana dobarah when this format changed and I thought I had lost my original avatar. I was also nooralain..."
Okay, Ana, the point has again been noted.
"I did not know whether you were being serious or flippant, or how close to ridicule you were being when you said that part about God is love, and us staying away deliberately."
What I meant was that the dirty hippies and the flower-power generation has been fooled into thinking, (no thanks to the Nicean Councils of Roman emperors) that the REAL struggle of Jesus was 'distribution of free love'. The truth is hidden from the general Christian view.
The modern-day saints have convinced almost everyone that all one need do to be 'saved' is to merely 'believe in Jesus (as son of God!?)'. How he actively fought usury and the perverts of the temples is kept out of discussions.
Remember, that the Prophets (men of the One True God) were always active reformers who detested wrongs and stood up for all sorts of rights (after of course, reminding men how to fulfil duties due to God).
"As for the deal about RAW agents being rampant here on Chowk, that's a trifle extreme, no?"
Ana, that is a fact.
"I've come across Pakistanis who have said the worst things about Indians, and Hindus...but I wouldn't consider all of them to be ISI now would I?!"
Down with all these snoop-dog agencies that play with people's minds. I haven't met an Indian who'd ignore or reject a genuine offer to make friends. But many here not only continue to abuse Prophet Muhammad and the Qur'an, they show who they are: RAW souls, unfinished, unpolished.
Reasoning amd requests don't work for these lonely agents provocateur.
And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father... (26:39)
Peace.
PS: How many Christians follow the 26:39 way of praying. Muslims do! Because that's the way Abraham and David and other Prophets were commanded to pray!
"I unintentionally flagged your post when I meant to reply to it, for which I apologize. . ."
What was unintentional is always worth forgiving. Thanks for the double effort! It stands noted.
"I began posting here as ana years ago, and took on ana dobarah when this format changed and I thought I had lost my original avatar. I was also nooralain..."
Okay, Ana, the point has again been noted.
"I did not know whether you were being serious or flippant, or how close to ridicule you were being when you said that part about God is love, and us staying away deliberately."
What I meant was that the dirty hippies and the flower-power generation has been fooled into thinking, (no thanks to the Nicean Councils of Roman emperors) that the REAL struggle of Jesus was 'distribution of free love'. The truth is hidden from the general Christian view.
The modern-day saints have convinced almost everyone that all one need do to be 'saved' is to merely 'believe in Jesus (as son of God!?)'. How he actively fought usury and the perverts of the temples is kept out of discussions.
Remember, that the Prophets (men of the One True God) were always active reformers who detested wrongs and stood up for all sorts of rights (after of course, reminding men how to fulfil duties due to God).
"As for the deal about RAW agents being rampant here on Chowk, that's a trifle extreme, no?"
Ana, that is a fact.
"I've come across Pakistanis who have said the worst things about Indians, and Hindus...but I wouldn't consider all of them to be ISI now would I?!"
Down with all these snoop-dog agencies that play with people's minds. I haven't met an Indian who'd ignore or reject a genuine offer to make friends. But many here not only continue to abuse Prophet Muhammad and the Qur'an, they show who they are: RAW souls, unfinished, unpolished.
Reasoning amd requests don't work for these lonely agents provocateur.
And he (Jesus) went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father... (26:39)
Peace.
PS: How many Christians follow the 26:39 way of praying. Muslims do! Because that's the way Abraham and David and other Prophets were commanded to pray!
#521 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 11:47:23 pm
Re: # 512
Ahmed...
Smuggling grain and importing/ smuggled sugar and making unearned profits they are milking cow/people so much ,cow will die. Good day everybody.
Ans: Same holds good for cheap chinese goods also ( in India)... Bajaj Electrical, Philips etc... already imports goods from China to sell in India...
Ahmed...
Smuggling grain and importing/ smuggled sugar and making unearned profits they are milking cow/people so much ,cow will die. Good day everybody.
Ans: Same holds good for cheap chinese goods also ( in India)... Bajaj Electrical, Philips etc... already imports goods from China to sell in India...
#520 Posted by jayp on April 10, 2008 11:44:23 pm
Koenraad,
The problem with arithmetics for the muslims is a historical one and continues even today. This time it is very complicated, pakis have to count upto 30 and they are having all kinds of problems.
from jang of today
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Interestingly, while the Murree Declaration clearly said that the judges would be restored within 30 days of the setting up of the "federal government", Information Minister Sherry Rehman on Thursday threw a new spanner in the works by announcing that the countdown for the 30 days deadline would start only once all the provincial governments were constituted.
The date on which the 30-day countdown began has already changed thrice. Initially, it was Nawaz Sharif, who on the very first day of the National Assembly members oath-taking on March 17, had said the countdown had started that day.
But later the countdown date moved to March 25 when the newly-elected prime minister took oath of his office. A few days later, Adviser to Prime Minister on Interior Rehman Malik, who was the first induction into the cabinet, said the countdown would start from the day of the cabinet's induction.
For all and sundry, the countdown started on March 31, the day when the cabinet took the oath. But now the information minister has come up with a fresh interpretation as to when the countdown would start though the Murree Declaration is not ambiguous on this.
The problem with arithmetics for the muslims is a historical one and continues even today. This time it is very complicated, pakis have to count upto 30 and they are having all kinds of problems.
from jang of today
//////////
Interestingly, while the Murree Declaration clearly said that the judges would be restored within 30 days of the setting up of the "federal government", Information Minister Sherry Rehman on Thursday threw a new spanner in the works by announcing that the countdown for the 30 days deadline would start only once all the provincial governments were constituted.
The date on which the 30-day countdown began has already changed thrice. Initially, it was Nawaz Sharif, who on the very first day of the National Assembly members oath-taking on March 17, had said the countdown had started that day.
But later the countdown date moved to March 25 when the newly-elected prime minister took oath of his office. A few days later, Adviser to Prime Minister on Interior Rehman Malik, who was the first induction into the cabinet, said the countdown would start from the day of the cabinet's induction.
For all and sundry, the countdown started on March 31, the day when the cabinet took the oath. But now the information minister has come up with a fresh interpretation as to when the countdown would start though the Murree Declaration is not ambiguous on this.
#519 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 11:32:32 pm
#510 Posted by koenraad,
Nothing is controversial in basic Islam amongst Muslims. There may be for you, but who cares?
Certainly Muslims don't care to resolve your controversies with Islam. Do your own research and arrive at whatever conclusions. Whatever you arrive at, will be correct.
Nothing is controversial in basic Islam amongst Muslims. There may be for you, but who cares?
Certainly Muslims don't care to resolve your controversies with Islam. Do your own research and arrive at whatever conclusions. Whatever you arrive at, will be correct.
#518 Posted by jayp on April 10, 2008 11:32:15 pm
The above verses clearly state that God (Allah) created the heaven and the Earth in 6 days. But the verses below stated-
(Quran-41:9): Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
(Quran- 41:10): He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
(Quran-41:12): So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and … Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days
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The above is from the ilog of koenrad on chowk.
People are going to stupid lengths to prove the book wrong. All that it shows is that the man was not very good in arithmatics. So what?? one cannot be good in everything, especially dealing with the creation stuff and the doctrine of jihad and kaffirs etc.
(Quran-41:9): Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ?
(Quran- 41:10): He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nourishment in due proportion, in FOUR DAYS…
(Quran-41:12): So He completed them (heavens) as seven firmaments in Two days and … Now do the math: 2(for earth) + 4(for nourishment) + 2 (for heavens) = 8 days; and not 6 days
////////////////
The above is from the ilog of koenrad on chowk.
People are going to stupid lengths to prove the book wrong. All that it shows is that the man was not very good in arithmatics. So what?? one cannot be good in everything, especially dealing with the creation stuff and the doctrine of jihad and kaffirs etc.
#517 Posted by jayp on April 10, 2008 11:24:39 pm
Re: # 511
madani saab,
As usual you have hit the nail on its head with a sledge hammer. Muslims were always traders, they collected the economic rent of geographic location. They have never invented anything simply because all that is needed is in the book. Hence trade is the only activity a muslim can persue without violating the book. That is also the guidance provided by jinnah, pakistan is the axis around which the world revolves. Hence their has been no emphasis on education, it was all trade which included the base for teh U2 planes, the support for taliban..you name it.
There is no way that pakistanis can change their fundamental social value, unless the remove that photo from teh govt offices and deride TNT.
That is not going to happen, hence the world will have to sort that out.
Pakistan has emerged as terror central, listen to the latest speech by Bush, if they withdraw from iraq, pakistan will become the alquida centre with renewed vigor.
It is teh simple rule, jihadis seek death, the world needs jihadic sink, and at present it is iraq. If one is not there, jihadis will seek other places like India. Hence it is important that the world provides a place where the jihadic fodder is consumed.
madani saab,
As usual you have hit the nail on its head with a sledge hammer. Muslims were always traders, they collected the economic rent of geographic location. They have never invented anything simply because all that is needed is in the book. Hence trade is the only activity a muslim can persue without violating the book. That is also the guidance provided by jinnah, pakistan is the axis around which the world revolves. Hence their has been no emphasis on education, it was all trade which included the base for teh U2 planes, the support for taliban..you name it.
There is no way that pakistanis can change their fundamental social value, unless the remove that photo from teh govt offices and deride TNT.
That is not going to happen, hence the world will have to sort that out.
Pakistan has emerged as terror central, listen to the latest speech by Bush, if they withdraw from iraq, pakistan will become the alquida centre with renewed vigor.
It is teh simple rule, jihadis seek death, the world needs jihadic sink, and at present it is iraq. If one is not there, jihadis will seek other places like India. Hence it is important that the world provides a place where the jihadic fodder is consumed.
#516 Posted by jayp on April 10, 2008 11:16:48 pm
Re: # 507
majumdar,
The point is that one should export only high value items for which one can get a premium. Basmati is one of that, a brand name with no real value, at least in terms of nutritional vlues, like the manchetser united T shirts as a clothing item..
majumdar,
The point is that one should export only high value items for which one can get a premium. Basmati is one of that, a brand name with no real value, at least in terms of nutritional vlues, like the manchetser united T shirts as a clothing item..
#515 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 10:28:01 pm
Ahmed...contd...
Political parties in India are busy for garnering vote ( post Congress monopoly period)...They have no time to think about Pakistan...Just login to IBNlive.com or NDTV.com, you will find major issues concerning India (the latest one is SUpreme Court verdict on OBC reservation)...
Political parties in India are busy for garnering vote ( post Congress monopoly period)...They have no time to think about Pakistan...Just login to IBNlive.com or NDTV.com, you will find major issues concerning India (the latest one is SUpreme Court verdict on OBC reservation)...
#514 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 10:27:51 pm
Ahmed...contd...
Political parties in India are busy for garnering vote ( post Congress monopoly period)...They have no time to think about Pakistan...Just login to IBNlive.com or NDTV.com, you will find major issues concerning India (the latest one is SUpreme Court verdict on OBC reservation)...
Political parties in India are busy for garnering vote ( post Congress monopoly period)...They have no time to think about Pakistan...Just login to IBNlive.com or NDTV.com, you will find major issues concerning India (the latest one is SUpreme Court verdict on OBC reservation)...
#513 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 10:21:16 pm
Re: # 511
Admed...
Mister...You should know the rule of economics before talking...No Govt. deliberately increase foodgrain price, specially if the Govt. seeking re-election...India is importing wheat from Australia also...Regarding sugar, India had produced large amount of sugar-cane.Indian policy does not permit mills to convert it into ethanol, to be used for bio-fuel. So, all the sugercane is used to produce sugar. A bumper crop and indian sugar is invading most of the markets ( Pakistan, Bangladesh,Srilanka ...).Govt. had nothing to do with this.
Admed...
Mister...You should know the rule of economics before talking...No Govt. deliberately increase foodgrain price, specially if the Govt. seeking re-election...India is importing wheat from Australia also...Regarding sugar, India had produced large amount of sugar-cane.Indian policy does not permit mills to convert it into ethanol, to be used for bio-fuel. So, all the sugercane is used to produce sugar. A bumper crop and indian sugar is invading most of the markets ( Pakistan, Bangladesh,Srilanka ...).Govt. had nothing to do with this.
#512 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 10, 2008 10:08:48 pm
Re: # 511 There is no good industry but just traders here. They will sell you ropes to hangman who will hang them . The enlightment capitalism angle is missing with industrial class. Smuggling grain and importing/ smuggled sugar and making unearned profits they are milking cow/people so much ,cow will die. Good day everybody.
#511 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 10, 2008 9:53:00 pm
Re: # 506,507
I read your comments. There is some thing to that.
Pakistan's problem is different than India or others. Indian govt has declared war on Pkaistani people for last 60 years. Mr. Gandhi and neveru proved wrong saying pakistan will Imploding by problems in 25 years etc.Nothing happened and this country is getting stronger and stronger. This unique time when both USA and China want good will from PK.
Now about new war started by India it is unarmed aggression to starve people of pakistan and it is coordinated with help of A.Stan and central asia. Indian govt as usual want to killwith love and kindness.
India is keeping prices of food wheat, rice high. Now they have big vaccumm cleaner for grain from Pakistan. Indian wheat and rice prices are 200 to 250 dollars high per tonne. Now everybody knows borders are officially closed but they are always open is open secret. ( otherwise not so much bigger items like car tires will be available here soopenly). Now what is happening all rice and grains is leaking to India and central asia and Traders are getting rich and abdul is getting shaft royally. This is creating real scarity of grains, rice and wheat and prices are rising up to match Indian prices. This official war on poor people of pakistan helped by pakistani traders.
On other hand there is almost 3 million tonne extra sugar for last season and factories not able toprocess all sugar. So Indian govt decided todismantle pakistan Sugar mill industry,. They are selling sugar at 18 Rs/ Kg for export while cost of manufacturering sugar is over 26 rs . So with sugar smuggling they are de4stroying sugar industry. So by selling cheap sugar ( smuggling) Killing largest agro Industrial complex economy of pakistan.( Please note sugar is thing which brought someprospority to rural areasyears ago). At other end offering higher prices for purchasing wheat and Rice they areabsorbing grains of pakistan and craeing famine in pakistan. This extreme privation is designed and not benign similar to famane of bengalunder British administration . ( Refer to long poem by mr. Bachhan "bangal ka Akal".
Now there are indications Indians may be planning another attack on rural pakistan. Threee things brought and created wealth in Pakistan rural areas 1. Sugar2. Grains . Third is milk production in rural areas. Sugar, grains and milk created wealth. The attack on last is in soon coming. There is over production of milk ( there may be local shortages at some spots). Indian Milk coops are converting excess milk in power and and value added products and power smuggling hasstarted. Rangers are corroupt and borders are open. If there is sufficient price differential movement starts. The war is alredy on. Rural agroindustries are under attack by Indians and central asians. Good pakistani rice and wheat id feeding allnorth india and central asia and poisoned cheap indian sugar is killing sugar making fundamentals. Indian actions are hurting people of pakistan. Good lawyers should put energy to frame india on chages of depriving millions of food.But lawyers just hired vicious professional. They are worrying about some CJ who took PCO order and worked for General and till he was not fired everything was fine. People with good knowledge of law should write what can be done.Woman (BB) worshiping party, 21 years boy as party chairman in waiting, stupid ministers chances of prosperity are not good and physical surviaval of people is getting tough due to random violece.
I am Mad man but how come whole economists and lawyers are not thinking properly. More you educateand more you read more one becomes foolish.
Jayp and all wise evils I have answerd and you already know all this stuff as north indians and afghans fattening on our grain and pakistani awam starving.
Good day.
I read your comments. There is some thing to that.
Pakistan's problem is different than India or others. Indian govt has declared war on Pkaistani people for last 60 years. Mr. Gandhi and neveru proved wrong saying pakistan will Imploding by problems in 25 years etc.Nothing happened and this country is getting stronger and stronger. This unique time when both USA and China want good will from PK.
Now about new war started by India it is unarmed aggression to starve people of pakistan and it is coordinated with help of A.Stan and central asia. Indian govt as usual want to killwith love and kindness.
India is keeping prices of food wheat, rice high. Now they have big vaccumm cleaner for grain from Pakistan. Indian wheat and rice prices are 200 to 250 dollars high per tonne. Now everybody knows borders are officially closed but they are always open is open secret. ( otherwise not so much bigger items like car tires will be available here soopenly). Now what is happening all rice and grains is leaking to India and central asia and Traders are getting rich and abdul is getting shaft royally. This is creating real scarity of grains, rice and wheat and prices are rising up to match Indian prices. This official war on poor people of pakistan helped by pakistani traders.
On other hand there is almost 3 million tonne extra sugar for last season and factories not able toprocess all sugar. So Indian govt decided todismantle pakistan Sugar mill industry,. They are selling sugar at 18 Rs/ Kg for export while cost of manufacturering sugar is over 26 rs . So with sugar smuggling they are de4stroying sugar industry. So by selling cheap sugar ( smuggling) Killing largest agro Industrial complex economy of pakistan.( Please note sugar is thing which brought someprospority to rural areasyears ago). At other end offering higher prices for purchasing wheat and Rice they areabsorbing grains of pakistan and craeing famine in pakistan. This extreme privation is designed and not benign similar to famane of bengalunder British administration . ( Refer to long poem by mr. Bachhan "bangal ka Akal".
Now there are indications Indians may be planning another attack on rural pakistan. Threee things brought and created wealth in Pakistan rural areas 1. Sugar2. Grains . Third is milk production in rural areas. Sugar, grains and milk created wealth. The attack on last is in soon coming. There is over production of milk ( there may be local shortages at some spots). Indian Milk coops are converting excess milk in power and and value added products and power smuggling hasstarted. Rangers are corroupt and borders are open. If there is sufficient price differential movement starts. The war is alredy on. Rural agroindustries are under attack by Indians and central asians. Good pakistani rice and wheat id feeding allnorth india and central asia and poisoned cheap indian sugar is killing sugar making fundamentals. Indian actions are hurting people of pakistan. Good lawyers should put energy to frame india on chages of depriving millions of food.But lawyers just hired vicious professional. They are worrying about some CJ who took PCO order and worked for General and till he was not fired everything was fine. People with good knowledge of law should write what can be done.Woman (BB) worshiping party, 21 years boy as party chairman in waiting, stupid ministers chances of prosperity are not good and physical surviaval of people is getting tough due to random violece.
I am Mad man but how come whole economists and lawyers are not thinking properly. More you educateand more you read more one becomes foolish.
Jayp and all wise evils I have answerd and you already know all this stuff as north indians and afghans fattening on our grain and pakistani awam starving.
Good day.
#510 Posted by koenraad on April 10, 2008 9:29:06 pm
Re: # 501
Mr Zeemax,
I did not mean an insult by what I wrote. Not everything controvertial in theology is an insult to a religion.
If you need to check where I got the material from then please do go ahead:
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/prayer.html
Thank you.
Mr Zeemax,
I did not mean an insult by what I wrote. Not everything controvertial in theology is an insult to a religion.
If you need to check where I got the material from then please do go ahead:
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/prayer.html
Thank you.
#509 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 9:17:41 pm
Tahir...
Contd...
Ragarding, day time fasting...it is physiological matter...validate it through any physician, dietician or biologist...
Entire flora and fauna (macro life form) is tuned with solar system (day-night and seasons, temperature and humidity). Human body is also adapted to that. Everyday morning you wake up, clean up your body, eat breakfast,start working, every 4-5 hours eat and drink and take rest at evening/night for 7-13 hours (based on age. A small child needs to sleep more. When growth stops at 40, nature controls your sleep). If God is there,he is controlling your activity like this (in fact entire life form). Now, suddenly an arab beduine tells you to do the reverse (against nature), and claim that it is word of God, should you believe that? I do not...
The word of God is not revealed to an arab beduine alone. It is revealed to everybody in the form of nature. A small child (bellow 6/7), sees life everywhere. He does not want to harm any creature. God teaches him to be kind to the smallest of the creatures. When the arab beduine advices you to make animal "sacrifice" (better to say kill) as a custom to please God, he is not showing you the right direction...When the arab beduine advises you to destroy beautiful architecture (temples etc...) to obey the word of God, he is actually taking you to wrong path...You destroy nature, God punishes you with flood,cyclone etc...Observe nature carefully, you will realise, how you and your ancestors are cheated by the mediaval arab beduine...
Contd...
Ragarding, day time fasting...it is physiological matter...validate it through any physician, dietician or biologist...
Entire flora and fauna (macro life form) is tuned with solar system (day-night and seasons, temperature and humidity). Human body is also adapted to that. Everyday morning you wake up, clean up your body, eat breakfast,start working, every 4-5 hours eat and drink and take rest at evening/night for 7-13 hours (based on age. A small child needs to sleep more. When growth stops at 40, nature controls your sleep). If God is there,he is controlling your activity like this (in fact entire life form). Now, suddenly an arab beduine tells you to do the reverse (against nature), and claim that it is word of God, should you believe that? I do not...
The word of God is not revealed to an arab beduine alone. It is revealed to everybody in the form of nature. A small child (bellow 6/7), sees life everywhere. He does not want to harm any creature. God teaches him to be kind to the smallest of the creatures. When the arab beduine advices you to make animal "sacrifice" (better to say kill) as a custom to please God, he is not showing you the right direction...When the arab beduine advises you to destroy beautiful architecture (temples etc...) to obey the word of God, he is actually taking you to wrong path...You destroy nature, God punishes you with flood,cyclone etc...Observe nature carefully, you will realise, how you and your ancestors are cheated by the mediaval arab beduine...
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