The Importance of Natural Selection

Dash:

Thanks for a lucid explanantion.

Re: # 80 Dash
No problem. While you are at it, could you please also explain, why my paycheck doesn't create itself. Where do I get the soup for that? Why it is always us who eat our lunch and we eat billions of lunches everyday. Is there a one in a billionth chance that one day our lunches will start eating us?

And most of all why it is always me who has to put up with this non-sense of a religion that atheists created and call their dogma "science". Well excuse me, this is not science by any definition of science. The day a scientist will prove that chicken noodle soup can come into being by itself, I will stop beliveing that an Almighty Penis and a Cow created this universe. Until then, thank you very much.

Re: # 82 its upto you urstruly.....you believe what you want, since your mind requires satisfaction from that point of view. Nothing wrong with that. You are happy with your condition and knowledge. I am happy with mine.

(the questions and points you raise are from an economic POV. However, i would suggest that the basic proteins in the chicken soup or the sandwich are remarkbly similar to what you have inside you!!!!!)

as an aside - There was an interesting story/point which my tutor raised many ages ago:

imagine yourself living in a 2-d world (e.g on sheet of paper) and can see 2D. I take a pencil and apply it orthogonally to this sheet of paper. to you the hole appearing is like a miracle. To me, I can see the cause, hence its not a miracle. (you is not you urstruly - but you is a generic term here).

Dear evolved brother,

Darwin occupies a place lower in my library than the Books that you call 'holey'.

Darwin had links with a German eugenics guru. You know what Jewish Hitler made out of all this evolution taking place on a remote island.

I can hear all faithless secularists applauding your effort vigorously! In the meantime:

God will requite them for their mockery, and will leave them for a while in their overweening arrogance, blindly stumbling to and fro: [for] it is they who have taken error in exchange for guidance; and neither has their bargain brought them gain, nor have they found guidance [elsewhere].

Their parable is that of people who kindle a fire: but as soon as it has illumined all around them, God takes away their light and leaves them in utter darkness, wherein they cannot see: deaf, dumb, blind - and they cannot turn back.

Or [the parable] of a violent cloudburst in the sky, with utter darkness, thunder and lightning: they put their fingers into their ears to keep out the peals of thunder, in terror of death; but God encompasses [with His might] all who deny the truth. The lightning well-nigh takes away their sight; whenever it gives them light, they advance therein, and whenever darkness falls around them, they stand still.

And if God so willed, He could indeed take away their hearing and their sight: for, verily, God has the power to will anything. (2:17-20)

Sleep well now...

If tahir's god and an ape had a baby, the child would be smarter than the smartest jihadi monkey.

Tahir,

Where did God go wrong to create heretics or are the heretics mere laboratory rats?

84 Posted by tahir on April 7, 2008 6:33:09 am


Re: # 82 its upto you urstruly.....you believe what you want, since your mind requires satisfaction from that point of view. Nothing wrong with that. You are happy with your condition and knowledge. I am happy with mine.
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SubhaanAllah..Das h-Dot
Qura'an Al-Hakeem is very clear about it...and has already said this long long time ago.

Maybe you just received an evolutionary-spurt telegram, dit dit dat dit, in your genome system.



and here is the complete Verse:

"Say: O You Unbelievers (who obstinately reject Faith), I do not worship which you worship, nor are you worsipping what I worship; Nor will I ever worship which you worship,and nor will you ever worship what I worship; You have your religion( and whatever it will bring on you) and I have my religion ( and whatever it will bring me)

Al-Kafiroun:109.
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P.S: Quraan has also repeatedly advised & warned us about humans been condemned & cursed to turn into monkeys & swine.
If Darwin knew even a little Science he would not have made the mistake he did, and misled Humanity into the clutches of barbarities pervertedly called GREAT WARS. Nationalism, Communism, and Capitalism are the three facets of the same Colonial-Imperial-Racist Trinity.

Darwin only, perhaps unwittingly, provided "scientific" legitimacy to a Satanic mindset about which Goethe had already warned us in Faust.

#78 dm: "How do you know that it does exist, " I never said "I know".

"We are talking here about a God with an accounting ledger, not an overall controlling force of nature. "

That is the maulvi's god. Not the muslim God.

Re: # 84 Tahir, tahir, tsk tsk tsk! You guys are the real works. For crying out loud - have you read what I have written. You lack reading comprehension. Can I recommend Reading Comprehension 101 at your nearest further education college.

Faithless secularists indeed......

BTW I do not require validation like you require....

Dear Zarrar:

Thank you. Nice essay. Let me ask a few direct questions (Hope you don’t mind):

1. Is there a difference between “Evolution” and “Natural Selection?
2. At what point in time, there is concrete evidence of sexualization of species?
3. If evolution is an ongoing process, is there any evidence of ongoing micro- or macro- evolution?
4. You have briefly commented that some scholars infer evolution from Koran. Do you find any reference of extinction in Koran or Bible, which is a fact anyways?
5. Religions claim God to be the creator and declares in Koran “We have indeed created man in the best of moulds” (Yusufali 95:4). Therefore, any flaw in human design would put the above verse to real test. Do you have any evidence of flaw in human design or could there be any possibility of a better anatomical or physiological human design? By the way, if there is no design flaw we would indirectly know that He did exist at the time of claim because his Koranic assertion proved to be true.


Akcheema #42:

Great to hear Stanley Miller being appropriately recognized. Nice reading list. May I add to your list an excellent, easy and comprehensive link for study of Evolution 101:

http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/evohome.html

Regards,

Re: # 87 echoboom - that verse you quoted is like a gigantic echo from day before The prophet turned up on earth. The guy who was followed in the lands destructed at the turn of the previous millennium said the same 500 years before the good lord Christ. Which was an echo from earlier times.

Its good to know that you do live up to your nic! Its a validation of the kind that the likes of Tahir would recognise - but hey, us sentient beings donot require it ;()

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Re: # 91 "is like a gigantic echo from day before The prophet turned up on earth."

should be "is like a gigantic echo from days long before The Prophet turned up on earth."

Since ak cheema included `The Genome Project`in his reading list ( interact 42) It is only appropriate to talk about Dr. Frances Collins..incharge of the Genome Project itself.
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REFUTATI ON of atheism..by GENOME_CODE SCIENTIST: Dr. Frances Collins
from his best-selling book: THE LANGUAGE OF GOD





Francis Collins was the head of the Human Genome Project, which successfully decoded the three billion genes of human DNA. As a young man, he was an atheist, but the demonstrated faith of some of his most desperately ill patients (he started as a medical doctor) prompted him to investigate spiritual issues. This is what he had to say in his 2006 best-seller The Language of God:




“My desire to draw close to God was blocked by my own pride and sinfulness, which in turn was an inevitable consequence of my own selfish desire to be in control. Now the crucifixion and resurrection emerged as the compelling solution to the gap that yawned between God and myself, a gap that could now be bridged by the person of Jesus Christ

Echoboom: Welcome back from ban baas.

tahmed#88:

""We are talking here about a God with an accounting ledger, not an overall controlling force of nature. "

That is the maulvi's god. Not the muslim God."

If it is only maulvi or pandit's god, does it mean that we will not be accountatble one day for our actions to the Higher Authority?

echoboom:

Kis sher ki aamad hai kay run kaanp raha hai?

Welcome back!