Color-Blind Love

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There's no end to how far and how long the cockroaches will run to be in gora country.

Abey qadiani, you will all be caught at one time or another and beheaded like the Banu Quraiza and thrown in the ditch - headless.

Remember that.

(I spelt Banu Quraiza in caps because they had courage ... they refused the terms and preferred to die. You and your ilk, do not have courage. That's why I don't use caps for qadianis. You will run)

Kulharee, what did you wear at your wedding? Bell bottoms?

So, to make my wife a temporary resident, we found a brief job for her as a “consultant” hired overseas, which allowed her to be eligible to be married to someone who had the residency privileges, which I did back then. This happened after she had finished her master’s and was no longer a UK resident. Long friggin story.

T Saab (332), I was a young impressionable little jerk freshly in love not knowing what I was doing. Now I know better. However, it worked out for better in the end. There were some bureaucratic hurdles that we wanted to overcome, therefore we approached the churches and mosques. In the late 80s, unless you were one of commonwealth, or EU, it was hard to get registered (at the registry) in England as a couple. We could have gone to New York (get married there, and then bring my American wife to England easily, but it was not possible for us at that time). In other words, tourists from non-commonwealth or non EU could not go to a registry to get married (we needed the paper “married” to pursue other options – employment, where to live, etc. But it was a learning experience, just as a 100 million other experiences. It only made us stronger. Now I stay away from maulvis. and they stay away from me too.

Kulharee, tahmed, masadi:

Thanks for the advice.

kulharee: one issue with your article - you said your maulvi refused to conduct the marriage ceremony unless the girl converted. why did you feel the need to even approach one of these scoundrels (and feed him on top of putting up with his hot air that a maulvi will produce at every opportunity) when you know that there is no organized priesthood in islam? any muslim can serve as the imam if you wanted to have a religious ceremony.

Masadi Sahib (330), I love you… fully agree with you on this one. My son, is planning a major in Biological Anthropology and has no interest in becoming a doctor.

#322 GT: I think kulharee's advice ("The best way to raise kids...is to give them wings. Never put them down. Be firm, but always trust them. After that, let them fly away.") is good as far as it goes. I would add to this: Draw some lines: 1. Trust them, and let them know that you expect them to be honest with you no matter what. They should know that other mistakes are forgiven, but lying is not. This will help them in everything they do later on. 2. Certain destructive forms of behavior - smoking, drugs, and so forth You or the missus need to have the eye of an eagle on this one, in addition to reminders. Most people would like to think that this doesnt happen, but these are in fact very much a hazard in the US particularly in high school, and I am pretty sure in Pakistan too. Luckily, once they avoid this in school, they generally are fine in college.

And dont follow the "desi syndrome" of pushing them to become a doctor or lawyer. Good if they do it on their own, but also good if they find something else if they are really committed to it.

Didnt mean to ramble on and you are probably aware of all this anyway. but what the heck.. :-)

#323 read "Does disproportionate me NO WHITES "

as "Does disproportionate mean NO WHITES "

neembu writes "Masadi,

where are your current and credible stats in support of your claim?"

These "stats" are no secret, they are published by the US government itself, do your google search. A whole series of them are listed in my article "Constructing a Global Ghetto....." published by the Bangladesh Journal of Sociology. Read it and get an education....

Kulharee writes "Then there are those that view everything from Hooka to Malangni thru colonial paradigm."

A cheap escape like we have come to expect of Mr. Feroz QUtabshahi, deliberately ignoring the fact that the global institutions of trade, finance, manufacture, war making, culture generation (media), is dominated by neo-colonial, white-man structures that predominantly determine what is acceptible and unacceptible, desirable and undesirable...and in that chain the colored people unless they imitate the white man, and even then are considered lower in the scale of worth than the white man, as psychological fact which is also reproduced in the material world as developed and undeveloped nations....colonial paradigm or not, the overwhelming evidence reveals that the globe moreso than during physical colonization submits to serving the desires of its colonial masters, the power elite. Paul had it right when he said that the devil is the god of this world, for he determines its structures and thus not only your life chances but how you view yourself and your narrow existence. Only those who can rise above it and shun the worship of the devil, see through his matrix and reject it for the reality based on justice above it are the ones who attain salvation- but that involves struggle, intellectual, moral and physical- what we term Jihad. It has nothing to do with the Talibans and the Jihadists who are mere pawns in this game of the Shaitan.....

g'night..............

Re: # 323

Masadi,

where are your current and credible stats in support of your claim?

GT writes "At times I wonder whether I am doing enough for the children. "

Unless you tell them the reality of their existence in the land you live in, and what the white man has done and is doing to your people, including their image of themselves which is constructed through the eyes of others and the "others" include predominantly the white man's society and structures- and instruct them to see all that and reject it, you would have failed in your duty as a parent. It was in that context that I said you're in real trouble if you follow the Kulharee example of rank racism where they see themselves as less than the white man in front of whom they become his peons and imitators and in front of their own kind "whiter than white" (kind of like hamid the sage of the sewers here on chowk)....good day and good luck...you can thank me later, though that is unnecessary just don't curse my parents like Kulharee does after I give him good advice....

Thanks everybody. It’s been an eye-opener. Apparently, there are Desis with all sorts of pre-conceived ideas, even about my family that they have never met (but that’s okay). Then there are those who don’t approve of such unions. My answer to them is to count your blessings and thank your imaginary God that you are not married to some horrible other race (created by some other stupid God) than your own precious pious one. Then there are those that view everything from Hooka to Malangni thru colonial paradigm. But most Desis appear to be comfortable with interracial marriages. The bottomline is that it’s all okay. You stick to your own kind, preferably first cousins, and let other find what they decide to do with their lives. Thanks.


GT Sahib, Those feelings are very normal. Every parent should always be asking oneself if he/she is doing right. The best way to raise kids (in my opinion) is to give them wings. Never put them down. Be firm, but always trust them. After that, let them fly away.

neembu writes " and there is a significant population of working poor White Americans in the US. Neither population fits into your facile explanations; how do you account for them? "

You really need to go back to school, high schoola and all. Nowhere am I denying that America is a classless society, in fact it is clearly demarked between the elite their servers, and the rest fit higher or lower into the working class, there is certainly no middle class to speak of given the fluid nature of jobs, relocations and the new economy of part time temporary work, two three jobs per person and low paid service work. What I am saying is that the lower rungs of the working class and the underclass are disproportionaley made up of people of color- what part of disproportionate do you not understand. Does disproportionate me NO WHITES in the underclass? does it? That is why I am asking you to do yourself a favor and reenroll in school, like Billy Madison, though you wont find a white woman like he did unless she happens to be the size of dumbo.....good day now, don't waste my time and yours....

#312 Posted by tahmed32:

"...what scares you?"
At times I wonder whether I am doing enough for the children.