Feroz Qutabshahi April 3, 2008
#145 Posted by zeemax on April 5, 2008 12:37:01 pm
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#146 Posted by aslam644 on April 5, 2008 12:37:30 pm
Scarlett expresses views that were common of the era. Some examples:
· "How stupid negroes were! They never thought of anything unless they were told." — Scarlett thinks to herself, after returning to Tara after the fall of Atlanta.
· "How dared they laugh, the black apes!...She'd like to have them all whipped until the blood ran down...What devils the Yankees were to set them free!" — Scarlett again thinking to herself, seeing free blacks after the war.
· However, she is kind to Pork, her father's trusted manservant. He tells Scarlett that if she were as nice to white people as she is to black, a lot more people would like her.
· She almost loses her temper when the Yankee women say they would never have a black nurse in their house and talk about Uncle Peter, Aunt Pittypat's servant, as if he were a mule.
Gone with the wind
· "How stupid negroes were! They never thought of anything unless they were told." — Scarlett thinks to herself, after returning to Tara after the fall of Atlanta.
· "How dared they laugh, the black apes!...She'd like to have them all whipped until the blood ran down...What devils the Yankees were to set them free!" — Scarlett again thinking to herself, seeing free blacks after the war.
· However, she is kind to Pork, her father's trusted manservant. He tells Scarlett that if she were as nice to white people as she is to black, a lot more people would like her.
· She almost loses her temper when the Yankee women say they would never have a black nurse in their house and talk about Uncle Peter, Aunt Pittypat's servant, as if he were a mule.
Gone with the wind
#147 Posted by HP on April 5, 2008 12:58:35 pm
Are Orthodox Greeks White? Can someone shed a light on their race. I don't think Creeks are white.
#148 Posted by treetop on April 5, 2008 1:03:32 pm
Re: # 147
Vast majority of medeterranian people are half breed.I remember one of my jewish friend calling an italian friend of ours semi nigger.
Vast majority of medeterranian people are half breed.I remember one of my jewish friend calling an italian friend of ours semi nigger.
#149 Posted by aslam644 on April 5, 2008 1:04:23 pm
Re: # 147
i don't know about other greeks but, jennifer aniston is as white as they come she even has a figure of a greek goddes
i don't know about other greeks but, jennifer aniston is as white as they come she even has a figure of a greek goddes
#150 Posted by Kulharee on April 5, 2008 1:14:16 pm
HP – this is not Colonial India 1927 when your dad was serving high tea to his gora masters, this is 2008, and give up that colonial hangover. If you feel so inferior to white people, you will be treated as such. I have met most racist Desis (particularly in England) than I have met any other group of people (racist people also come in all colors), and I don’t need your abbaji’s permission to say so. I don’t know who is a bigger hypocrite, you or Masadi, at least he is open about his racist views and he left for his country, you meanwhile brag about how many girls served you alcohol in your Islamic Pakistan. Good going.
And Greeks think of themselves as Olive, they come in many colors - from blue eyed, to dark eyes and almost desi complexion (lot of blood heritage). But of course, I am married to the most beautiful Greek.
And Greeks think of themselves as Olive, they come in many colors - from blue eyed, to dark eyes and almost desi complexion (lot of blood heritage). But of course, I am married to the most beautiful Greek.
#151 Posted by treetop on April 5, 2008 1:26:36 pm
Let us put religion and culture aside
and talk about daughter and father relation[since iam not married it may be easy for me].This is an ancient disscusion even mentioned by Hommer.If father and daughter have a thing for each other and want to express thier love through sex whats wrong with it except for the reason of genetic diversification ?
and talk about daughter and father relation[since iam not married it may be easy for me].This is an ancient disscusion even mentioned by Hommer.If father and daughter have a thing for each other and want to express thier love through sex whats wrong with it except for the reason of genetic diversification ?
#152 Posted by HP on April 5, 2008 1:33:24 pm
#150
See you are back to what you are. An abuser! Accept the reality that the only thing you can do is abuse people. Why was a need to bring my dad into this?
I think you are rank racist just because you think in your head that you are married to some white. Which is only your delusion as we know most of the Greeks in the present world are either of Turk ancestry or are mixed.
If this love is so color-blind, why are you staying here and not in Pakistan or even in Greek... They have beautiful Islands, prettier than Manhattan.
See you are back to what you are. An abuser! Accept the reality that the only thing you can do is abuse people. Why was a need to bring my dad into this?
I think you are rank racist just because you think in your head that you are married to some white. Which is only your delusion as we know most of the Greeks in the present world are either of Turk ancestry or are mixed.
If this love is so color-blind, why are you staying here and not in Pakistan or even in Greek... They have beautiful Islands, prettier than Manhattan.
#153 Posted by zeemax on April 5, 2008 1:40:22 pm
The acid test of whether one is white or not is in #145.
#154 Posted by HP on April 5, 2008 1:49:54 pm
Well Zee,
He was not aware of the fact that Greeks are not white before he got married. Coming from the district he came from, everything lighter than coal was white for him.
I know some guys who married Italian thinking that they married a white chick including one former PM of India.
Funny these guys would marry a Greek or an Italian thinking that they are marrying a white but would not merry a Moroccan or a Turk.
He was not aware of the fact that Greeks are not white before he got married. Coming from the district he came from, everything lighter than coal was white for him.
I know some guys who married Italian thinking that they married a white chick including one former PM of India.
Funny these guys would marry a Greek or an Italian thinking that they are marrying a white but would not merry a Moroccan or a Turk.
#155 Posted by Look on April 5, 2008 1:55:23 pm
Feroz,
some people maybe mad at you for not following your religion. You did not rob your wife of her identity and pehchan. Your marriage was not yet another excuse for conversation.
Enjoyed this article.
some people maybe mad at you for not following your religion. You did not rob your wife of her identity and pehchan. Your marriage was not yet another excuse for conversation.
Enjoyed this article.
#156 Posted by Kulharee on April 5, 2008 2:07:32 pm
HP you need a little lesson in history among other things. Greeks are more indigenous to their land than Turks, who happen to have come from Central Asia. Feel free to ask any thing you like. “Your dad”, you idiot, was used as a metaphor, meaning goneby days. Don’t pretend to be so thickheaded. Look at some of the filth written in discussion by some of these Desis that not even a dog will like to touch. Look at how Zeemax is so graphical about how his mother looks like and how anal she is? Do you have wise words for him? Bunch of morons. Try to go out and meet some white people, instead of sitting on your butt planning to conquer the world. It aint like that no more.
#157 Posted by MantoLives on April 5, 2008 2:13:46 pm
Kulharee,
Did your inter-religious marriage also revoke your membership of Jamaat-Ahmaddiya? The JA did ban (albeit briefly) my father for marrying my mother - a shia.
Did your inter-religious marriage also revoke your membership of Jamaat-Ahmaddiya? The JA did ban (albeit briefly) my father for marrying my mother - a shia.
#158 Posted by neembu on April 5, 2008 2:29:20 pm
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#159 Posted by ana on April 5, 2008 2:43:13 pm
What exactly is white? There are some of us who think we are white. If you really believe in all these distinctions then Greeks are not white. Turks are not white. Italians are not white. . . .
And Kulharee is right about one thing, racist or bigoted people do come in all colors. On this board, they are "brown."
I don't know where HP got the idea that Kulharee thought he was marrying a white woman, I don't get that in the article or the interacts. Kulharee, did you think you were marrying a white woman? If so, you were and are one big buddhu! And I have to say this, I am intrigued by the fact that your wife dissuaded you from converting to Orthodox Christianity. Either the church is not as much a part of their lives as most Greek-Americans I know, or they are more accepting than some Greek-Americans I know.
I don't know if your membership of Jamaat-Ahmaddiya was revoked, but if I remember correctly (I've been away from church for a while) your wife cannot receive sacraments such as communion. I was thinking about this earlier, but just because you are prohibited from fully worshipping in those institutions does not stop you from being who you are. . .or exposing your children to both of your faiths. :)
And Kulharee is right about one thing, racist or bigoted people do come in all colors. On this board, they are "brown."
I don't know where HP got the idea that Kulharee thought he was marrying a white woman, I don't get that in the article or the interacts. Kulharee, did you think you were marrying a white woman? If so, you were and are one big buddhu! And I have to say this, I am intrigued by the fact that your wife dissuaded you from converting to Orthodox Christianity. Either the church is not as much a part of their lives as most Greek-Americans I know, or they are more accepting than some Greek-Americans I know.
I don't know if your membership of Jamaat-Ahmaddiya was revoked, but if I remember correctly (I've been away from church for a while) your wife cannot receive sacraments such as communion. I was thinking about this earlier, but just because you are prohibited from fully worshipping in those institutions does not stop you from being who you are. . .or exposing your children to both of your faiths. :)
#160 Posted by Kulharee on April 5, 2008 2:48:19 pm
Manto, Sadly, yes. But any faith should not be like an exclusive club with membership privileges, therefore, I still consider myself an Ahmadi Muslim - and contribute as much as possible to my Jamat. My faith is a matter between me and my God. I am not into peripheral stuff like Nabuwat and other meaningless garbage. My parents on the other hand are very observant, but my entire clan has accepted my wife as one of their own (not their own wife like Sikhs do, but just a member of the clan), which she greatly appreciates. Only kidding about Sikhs to bring Bhatti Saab back into discussion.
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