Color-Blind Love

Kulharee aka Mr. Qutabshai........ I feel sorry the comments have become ugly. I have my feeliing being product of time. I gave honest suggestions and my feelings and there was no hidden agenda to say bad words to any body or hurt. So kindly accept my feelings and feel sorry if inadvertently said some thing wrong.

I think you are fine away where you are with your greek wife and children. Honestly your home bad is like dirty pond. Many have tried to clean this pound.You or noone person can clean this pond. So you or many others go to better waters , which are not polluated ,its logical when one can not clean lake move to new clean pond. It is my earnest suggestion you can visit back home sometimes but do not move here.

I feel sorry what this has generated ugly exchange.

Good day and Good Luck

Ahmed Madani.

#156 Posted by Kulharee on April 5, 2008 2:07:32 pm


“Your dad”, you idiot, was used as a metaphor, meaning goneby days. Don’t pretend to be so thickheaded.


What makes you think he was pretending...

these people like neembu, zeemax/tampax,slyder,aslam,HP all make me sick saab. such filthy language saab. some worse than others saab.

probably explains how they were conceived or brought up saab. i blame the parents saab

Re: # 162 Bad news for "Bad news group ltd" messers Arjun ,Jayp and laddu


FOREIGN OFFENSIVE


Foreign Minister's first visit abroad is of China KARACHI, April 5 (APP): Foreign Minister, Makhdoom Shah Mehmood Qureshi’s first visit abroad will be that of Peoples Republic of China. He will be visiting China from April 10 accompanying President Pervez Musharraf. He said China is a great, time-tested and all-weather friend of Pakistan. China has always sided with Pakistan and is also extending assistance towards our economic development. He said it was his inner desire that the first country he should visit (as Foreign Minister) should be China and Allah Almighty has provided this opportunity. (Posted @ 21:18 PST)

DOMESTIC OFFENSIVE AGAINST VIOLENT PEOPLE



Pakistan arrests eight alleged suicide bombers Bahawalnagar, Punjab, April 05 (PPI): Bahawalnagar police Saturday arrested eight alleged suicide bombers who had planned to kill former federal minister Ejazul Haq. Addressing a press conference a police spokesman said 40-kg explosive, suicide jackets, literature and CDs were recovered from the possession of the accused. He said that earlier, two of their accomplices were killed when the bomb they had planted in a motorcycle to kill Ejazul Haq exploded. He said officers and personnel of Bahawalnagar police were also a target of the accused. He said that the group’s mastermind Maulana Farooq Rajanpuri was said to be a class-fellow of late Maulana Abdul Rashid Ghazi of Islamabad’s Lal Masjid. (Posted @ 21:54 PST)




JUST DEMAND


Pakistan desires to solve Kashmir issue in accordance with historic stand: FM KARACHI, April 5 (APP): The country's Kashmir policy has been formulated after due consideration and it was, is and will be our desire that this longstanding issue is resolved in accordance with our historic stand, Foreign Minister, Shah Mehmood Qureshi, said in Karachi on Saturday after visiting the mausoleum of Quaid-i-Azam where he placed floral wreaths and offered Fateha. Reciprocating Indian Foreign Minister Pranab Mukherjee’s desire for early resumption of the composite dialogue process, Shah Mehmood said he had extended an invitation to his Indian counterpart and the dates in this connection are being finalized. (Posted @ 17:00 PST)



INDIAS COMING TONEGOTATION KASHIMIR AS FREEDOM FIGHTER FORCED INDIA TO DO THAT





Indian PM to visit Pakistan soon: report NEW DELHI, April 5 (APP): Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh will visit Pakistan in the next couple of month, “Hindustan Times” quoting officials here said. No dates had been fixed, it said adding that Singh has a long-pending invitation to visit Pakistan . Indian Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon will soon visit Islamabad for having first contact with the newly elected government in Pakistan to review fourth round of Composite Dialogue. A couple of days ago, Indian External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee telephoned his Pakistani counter-part Shah Mehmood Qureshi and agreed to resume Composite Dialogue at the earliest. He will also visit Islamabad soon. The expectations from Indian Prime Minister's visit were high. An agreement on settling the Sir Creek boundary has become possible, the daily added. (Posted @ 17:20 PST)

PEACEFUL OFFENSIVE IN KASHMIR? GANDHI STYLE



Protesters in occupied Kashmir call for release of political prisoners from Indian jails SRINAGAR, occupied Kashmir, April 5 (AP) - Protesters threw rocks in occupied Kashmir and shops, schools and roads were near-empty Saturday after political parties called a strike to protest alleged mistreatment of political prisoners in Indian jails. The protesters converged in the main street near a mosque in Srinagar, chanting “We want freedom,” “Release the detainees.” They threw rocks at police and paramilitary forces who tried to prevent them from marching. Police fired tear gas after failing to disperse the crowd with bamboo sticks, a police officer said on condition of anonymity. At least three protesters and two policemen were injured, the officer said, adding five protesters were detained. Activists claim more than 1,400 Kashmiris are languishing in Indian jails, where prisoners are allegedly tortured and kept without trial. The strike, which kept most traffic off the roads and shuttered businesses in Srinagar, was called by Syed Ali Shah Geelani, head of the hard-line faction of All Parties Hurriyat Conference, the region's main separatist alliance. The strike was supported by the United Jehad Council, an alliance of several militant groups and a lawyers association. The separatist groups have wide support among Kashmiris. More than a dozen militant groups have been fighting in the Indian-controlled side since 1989, seeking Muslim-majority Kashmir's independence from predominantly Hindu India or its merger with Pakistan. At least 68,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in the conflict. (Posted @ 16:20 PST)









STRATEGIC THINKING




Pakistan, China enjoy strategic, close relations: PM Gilani ISLAMABAD, April 5 (APP): Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani Saturday said China was Pakistan's all-weather, time-tested friend with the two countries having strategic and close relationship in every field. In a meeting with a delegation of China Mobile Communication Corporation headed by its Chairman and CEO, Wang Jianzhou, he said the government wants major investors to make Pakistan as their destination. Wang Jianzhou said the company has invested US$700 million in Pakistan and another US$800 million would be invested by the end of this year when it would install 5180 new sites to cover 90% areas of Pakistan and provide jobs to 5,000 people. He also expressed interest for investment in education and environment sectors. (Posted @ 19:44 PST)
ARJUN LITTE HARD ON YOUR COMPANY ALL GOOD NEWS FOR PKSTAN. GOOD DAY

Hi Ana (#159), the priest at our local Holy Cross Church has become a good friend of the family (even though we only attend 2 or 3 times a year – and on deaths and baptisms). He tells me that more than half marriages he now officiates in his church are between Orthodox and other faiths. That to me is a sign of progress but I think it is still a big no-no between an Orthodox and a Muslim. I love Greek Priests. Religious stuff doesn’t bother me a bit.

Kulharee, how do you negotiate around little things like whether your wife has to cover her head when she visits Pakistan and how well she speaks Urdu and how you get along in Greek with distant family in Greece?
I know this is all very personal, so feel free not to answer. Your article is very personal, and it has more self-disclosure than I could ever do! You're a brave man.

nb: women are not required to cover their heads in pakistan, just as women are not required to commit the suttee in india. (yawn..why do i have to tell you this?)

Tahmed, don't be silly.....she's not likely to have to do it in front of kulharee's parents, maybe, but what of the distant uncles and aunties and the biradari elders who are less modern? Please don't tell me it never happens, and women covering their heads in Pakistan, or in India is a lot more common than satis, which make headlines about once a decade or less often.Are you going to tell me that women in Pakistan cover their heads fewer times than once a decade?

make that the phenomenon of women covering their heads...thanks

nb:

As Tahmed has told you, we do not have to cover our heads in Pakistan, and it has never been an "enforced" requirement as it's been in Iran since the Revolution. During the Zia era, some of us did in order to protect ourselves from being hassled by some men, but as far as I can remember it has never been a requirement for all women. The fact that some women do, and not just Muslim women, is by choice, or family tradition.

P.S. I noticed that you just responded to Tahmed, so apologize if this sounds repetitive. It would depend on how conservative Kul's biradari is.

Ana, that's just what I'm asking-he says they have accepted her as a member of the biradari, which btw I think she must understand better than most, being Greek. I'm asking what changes she has had to make to fit in.
Kulharee, I'd like to tell you about something else. When the birth records became available online in the UK sometime ago, a couple of people I knew who searched for their own surnames-including at one distant relative, found to their shock that the grandfather or great grandfather whom they knew had studied to be a barrister or FRCS in England in the first half of the 20th century had fathered a child or children. Their families, including their wives had never had any idea. It must have been the same with young Muslim men whose families went on to be Pakistani after the partition. I thought it was amazing.

Ana,
This is a typical nb question which tahmed replied in the same vain.

I don't know about the "Culturally advanced" and the "non racist" Kulharee Family, traditionally women folk in Pakistan and I have observed it everywhere,cover their heads in elders presence.

There is no requirement to do that but it is a sign of respect for the elders. Now as I said some culturally advanced may not follow this tradition.

I was just thinking on this subject of man's and woman's love. There is famous bandish presented in Maru Bihag with wonderful sweet rhythumic notes.

I remember boles partially and memory failing ,feel loss

AAYO RE SAJANIYA MAN BHANAV
ZANAK RAHO MORE PIYALIYA
Preet PIYAKI JAGI AAYE
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If some body remembers please tell me......Thanks

(It is very delightful comosition slowly sharpness goes with time)
Thanks. AM

Re: # 140
'Baldly' was intentional because I love the bald eagle as a proud bird and not as a symbol of universal aggression.

I just thought I'd break up this fight bewteen the two of you. To smolder and simmer--that is true 'neembu-pani' love.

Good to the last drop.
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Hi Kulharee (165): I love Greek Orthodox priests too! :) Although the ones I know would still not officiate a wedding between a Christian and someone of another faith.

HP (172): I agree about it being a sign of respect.

Re: # 173 madani sahib

you are a very interesting man sir!

I don't know if it helps you (I hope it does), there is an Indian Classics website I know; they have a few bandishes in Bihag but I couldn't locate that particular one.

May be you can try; something might just click with you as they say! the address is: www.swarganga.org

I hope you find it sir.

Enjoy!