Beena Sarwar April 5, 2008
#8 Posted by HPsauce on April 14, 2008 6:36:22 am
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#6 Posted by jayp on April 14, 2008 3:56:05 am
Beena,
This is the real legacy of benazir, uncle sam is asluing for his pound of flesh.
No one including china is going to come to pakistans help.
from jang of today
US seeks direct access to Pak's nuke arsenal
Islamabad (PTI): Amid western concerns about the safety of Pakistan's nuclear aresenal, the United States has sought direct access to the body controlling the country's nuclear assets for an American official to be posted at its embassy here.
The US State Department sent a proposal to the Pakistan government after a set of 11 demands dispatched earlier by Washington to Islamabad regarding the deployment of American military personnel in the country, were refused by Pakistani authorities.
This is the real legacy of benazir, uncle sam is asluing for his pound of flesh.
No one including china is going to come to pakistans help.
from jang of today
US seeks direct access to Pak's nuke arsenal
Islamabad (PTI): Amid western concerns about the safety of Pakistan's nuclear aresenal, the United States has sought direct access to the body controlling the country's nuclear assets for an American official to be posted at its embassy here.
The US State Department sent a proposal to the Pakistan government after a set of 11 demands dispatched earlier by Washington to Islamabad regarding the deployment of American military personnel in the country, were refused by Pakistani authorities.
#5 Posted by jayp on April 14, 2008 3:36:40 am
Beena,
Well every [pakistani would like to believe in your article.
So conveniently forgot the role of the americans, if they were involved in bringing benazir back, do you think they will leave it at that.
Why is mushy still in power, thanks to teh yanks.
Why is the reinstatement of the CJ still a problem, because they want to ensure that the CJ will not unseat mushy.
The pakistani politicians are puppets, the puppet master is controlling their movements , and of course the pakis with their head deep in the books cannot see anything.
Beena, take it from me, there is nothing for the pakistanis to be proud of. All thsi excitement will transform into desperation, as it happened so many times before.
The eternal fact will remain, if teh TNT is not challenged, pakistan will become a slave state, may be to the US, may be to the chinese, a mere pawn, pretending to be a major power like india. It is that prose for taht pretention that pakis have been paying for teh last 60 years.
Well every [pakistani would like to believe in your article.
So conveniently forgot the role of the americans, if they were involved in bringing benazir back, do you think they will leave it at that.
Why is mushy still in power, thanks to teh yanks.
Why is the reinstatement of the CJ still a problem, because they want to ensure that the CJ will not unseat mushy.
The pakistani politicians are puppets, the puppet master is controlling their movements , and of course the pakis with their head deep in the books cannot see anything.
Beena, take it from me, there is nothing for the pakistanis to be proud of. All thsi excitement will transform into desperation, as it happened so many times before.
The eternal fact will remain, if teh TNT is not challenged, pakistan will become a slave state, may be to the US, may be to the chinese, a mere pawn, pretending to be a major power like india. It is that prose for taht pretention that pakis have been paying for teh last 60 years.
#4 Posted by masadi on April 14, 2008 1:05:01 am
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#3 Posted by masadi on April 14, 2008 1:01:26 am
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#2 Posted by masadi on April 14, 2008 12:56:54 am
The author writes "Three factors, occurring over a span of two years, changed this course. First, former archrivals Benazir Bhutto and Mian Nawaz Sharif, both then in exile, joined hands in May 2006 to sign a ‘Charter of Democracy’, aimed at ousting the military from Pakistani politics. Second, an increasingly independent judiciary began taking on previously taboo issues, including the disappearances at the hand of the intelligence agencies since Pakistan’s alliance with the US in the ‘war on terror’. Third, dozens of independent television channels, which had sprung up since 2002, were covering events critically and energetically"
Wrong on all three counts: The Charter of Democracy was undone by the BB when she started hobnobbing with the Americans to strengthen the dictator and facilitate for him his new role as president- were it not for the Americans and their military occupation force indigeneously staffed (the Pakistan Army), Musharraf would still be wearing his uniform. Second, by taking part in a farcial elections the context of which included not only an illegitimate president and his emergency and manipulation, but included the assassination of BB, no benefit to democracy has occurred. If the boycott had been substantial that would have been more of a thorn on the side of the establishment than fitting into a corrupt structure of the present form. If a change has occurred it has occurred due to the people of Pakistan and their lack of acceptance of the same US/Pak Army shenanigans in the past, as a result of which the Americans have been forced to incorporate the political bigwigs into the equation- these high level "diplomacy" meetings between the Americans and party leaders of all shades and colors tells us that want to now incorporate them into the power equation in this country. See how neatly they will all fit in after a little while. Musharraf- the Army's excrement- is still there so what the heck was the use of the Charter of Democracy- to undo which the role of the BB was second to none. Third, these so-called "independent" television channels have nothing to do with democracy but represent private interests (that cannot compete with Army interests) and in many cases the best organized of them, foreign interests- like radio "free" Iraq. There is no public media in Pakistan.
The only thing "real" is the lawyer's movement and the anti-army sentiment of the people, everything else including the NS is fake. If the former i.e the lawyers and the people, can organize- they will change the structure- which will be painful in the shortterm of course- the imperialist machine will kick in to isolate the country and make it into another Zimbabwe. If the politicians fit into the new power equation the Americans are setting up for them with the Army- nothing will change other than the military now ruling by proxy for longer term- without a martial law. The role of the Jihadists in all of this is to strengthen the hands of the Americans and give legitimacy to the Pakistan Army- they cannot be expected to change anything since they are bed with the devil and a dirty stinking bed it is...
Wrong on all three counts: The Charter of Democracy was undone by the BB when she started hobnobbing with the Americans to strengthen the dictator and facilitate for him his new role as president- were it not for the Americans and their military occupation force indigeneously staffed (the Pakistan Army), Musharraf would still be wearing his uniform. Second, by taking part in a farcial elections the context of which included not only an illegitimate president and his emergency and manipulation, but included the assassination of BB, no benefit to democracy has occurred. If the boycott had been substantial that would have been more of a thorn on the side of the establishment than fitting into a corrupt structure of the present form. If a change has occurred it has occurred due to the people of Pakistan and their lack of acceptance of the same US/Pak Army shenanigans in the past, as a result of which the Americans have been forced to incorporate the political bigwigs into the equation- these high level "diplomacy" meetings between the Americans and party leaders of all shades and colors tells us that want to now incorporate them into the power equation in this country. See how neatly they will all fit in after a little while. Musharraf- the Army's excrement- is still there so what the heck was the use of the Charter of Democracy- to undo which the role of the BB was second to none. Third, these so-called "independent" television channels have nothing to do with democracy but represent private interests (that cannot compete with Army interests) and in many cases the best organized of them, foreign interests- like radio "free" Iraq. There is no public media in Pakistan.
The only thing "real" is the lawyer's movement and the anti-army sentiment of the people, everything else including the NS is fake. If the former i.e the lawyers and the people, can organize- they will change the structure- which will be painful in the shortterm of course- the imperialist machine will kick in to isolate the country and make it into another Zimbabwe. If the politicians fit into the new power equation the Americans are setting up for them with the Army- nothing will change other than the military now ruling by proxy for longer term- without a martial law. The role of the Jihadists in all of this is to strengthen the hands of the Americans and give legitimacy to the Pakistan Army- they cannot be expected to change anything since they are bed with the devil and a dirty stinking bed it is...
#1 Posted by nazarhayatkhan on April 13, 2008 11:42:42 pm
Beena
you are right. but the trigger can be the NO of CJP to resign & lawyers movement later joined by the civil society.
Without this element, Musharraf could keep on manipulating with help of the collaborators (Q & MQM)- who for the fist time in history have been put on the defensive. more later.
NHK
you are right. but the trigger can be the NO of CJP to resign & lawyers movement later joined by the civil society.
Without this element, Musharraf could keep on manipulating with help of the collaborators (Q & MQM)- who for the fist time in history have been put on the defensive. more later.
NHK
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