Benazir’s Legacy
Beena Sarwar April 5, 2008
#56 Posted by majumdar on April 17, 2008 10:01:46 pm
Nkg,
(What Mr. Jinnah can expect, when he created a state in the name of Islam?)
MAJ (pbuh) created Pakistan for the sake of Injun Muslims, not for Islam per se.
(his had not created any environment to make Pakistan a moderate state...)
He never had the time. He died within a year of Partition.
(...Still these countries progressed better than many countries in nothern europe due to its social culture...)
Japan is not too corrupt by any standards. And on waht basis are you saying that Russia and Italy have done better than North Europeans.
(ZAB was the best PM for Pakistan... )
He destroyed Pakistan's economy. I presume that makes him a good PM in your eyes. By the same logic you wud think that JLN and Indira were good PMs.
Regards
(What Mr. Jinnah can expect, when he created a state in the name of Islam?)
MAJ (pbuh) created Pakistan for the sake of Injun Muslims, not for Islam per se.
(his had not created any environment to make Pakistan a moderate state...)
He never had the time. He died within a year of Partition.
(...Still these countries progressed better than many countries in nothern europe due to its social culture...)
Japan is not too corrupt by any standards. And on waht basis are you saying that Russia and Italy have done better than North Europeans.
(ZAB was the best PM for Pakistan... )
He destroyed Pakistan's economy. I presume that makes him a good PM in your eyes. By the same logic you wud think that JLN and Indira were good PMs.
Regards
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#55 Posted by nkg on April 17, 2008 9:59:49 pm
Some commented about drinking alcohol...Alcohol is not harmful and is used in medicine for long time. Tobaco is carcinogenic and that is bad for health...
#54 Posted by nkg on April 17, 2008 9:56:34 pm
Re: # 18
majumder..
What Mr. Jinnah can expect, when he created a state in the name of Islam? The malaise of Islam he was already aware of. How could he expect a state will suddenly change into liberal democratic society if it separates from India? The direct action day was his landmark achievement...So, Pakistan is witnessing another set of "direct action day" in Lal Masjid etc...Some lofty words does not make MAJ great/liberal ..his had not created any environment to make Pakistan a moderate state...He was not Ataturk...
As per my understanding, Benazir, like her father,was a socialist. She might not be successful, but must be far better than others in Pakistan...Now, when people like M K Naraynan brings out Benazir's involvement in fostering Jihadis; it was reality. She had no way could prevent it...
Corruption in high level is very common in Japan, Korea, Russia, Italy etc...Still these countries progressed better than many countries in nothern europe due to its social culture...Bhutto was never US stooge, and ZAB was the best PM for Pakistan...
majumder..
What Mr. Jinnah can expect, when he created a state in the name of Islam? The malaise of Islam he was already aware of. How could he expect a state will suddenly change into liberal democratic society if it separates from India? The direct action day was his landmark achievement...So, Pakistan is witnessing another set of "direct action day" in Lal Masjid etc...Some lofty words does not make MAJ great/liberal ..his had not created any environment to make Pakistan a moderate state...He was not Ataturk...
As per my understanding, Benazir, like her father,was a socialist. She might not be successful, but must be far better than others in Pakistan...Now, when people like M K Naraynan brings out Benazir's involvement in fostering Jihadis; it was reality. She had no way could prevent it...
Corruption in high level is very common in Japan, Korea, Russia, Italy etc...Still these countries progressed better than many countries in nothern europe due to its social culture...Bhutto was never US stooge, and ZAB was the best PM for Pakistan...
#53 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 17, 2008 3:10:55 pm
Re: # 52 Mistake I was saying thank you mr.Masadi ( not madani)
#52 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 17, 2008 3:06:54 pm
Re: # 50 Great "quote". Thanks mr.Madani for giving verbatum words of mr. Mill.
Kindly write little few pages on life and works of mr. mills. Specially he did his when imprerial power were at at peak after and elites were thinking themselves as invincible.
Hope to read about life of this remarkable of thinkers from usa.
Kindly write little few pages on life and works of mr. mills. Specially he did his when imprerial power were at at peak after and elites were thinking themselves as invincible.
Hope to read about life of this remarkable of thinkers from usa.
#51 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 17, 2008 2:58:10 pm
Arjun ,JAYP and bad news Inc.....Now read this and weep.
KSE reaches highest-ever peak of 15,622.30pts. Hope Delhi stock market does same. Good luck to your market.
Millions of people are getting better economically.
Zafar Ahmad
KARACHI: Karachi Share Market continued to depict bullish trend recording a further gain of 81.95 points, pushing the 100-price index to 15622.30 points.
The Thursday's index was the highest-ever recorded by the Share Market as the index on Wednesday was 15540.35 points.
The Share Market had been going steadily as it was daily the recording of higher points.
Similarly, the free-float (30-index) reported a gain of 47.59 as the index moved from 18948.74 points to 18996.33 points, citing a percentage of 0.25.
The stock analysts commended the working of the Karachi Share Market as the investors had been moving freely and investing according to their investment plans. The index today moved to 15622.30 points while it closed yesterday at 15540.35 points, depicting a net gain of 81.95 points.
The market had been enjoying 'boom' and it was attracting investors in a big way, the analysts concluded.
The ground realities continued unchanged. The Sindh Government has been inducted but minus MQM, which the politicians and the Karachiities felt awkward.
There had been whisperings about the Sindh Governor with the reports that the governor's powers have been clipped.
It was disturbing for the investors who think that the PPP must sort out a way to work with the MQM as it was in the larger interest of the people.
Similarly, investors feel that the increase in the petrol prices during the recent weeks was 'third' in a row which was definitely not in their interest and was bitterly criticised by the investors. Analysts opine that tomorrow will be the weekend sessions and hopefully there would be some new records, including the highest-ever records as the Share Market has been going strong, providing all the confidence to investors.
On Friday trading period, Pak ReInsur topped the list of the companies depicting highest increase in their rates, as it recorded an increase of Rs33.55, with the closing rates 705.10, followed by AKD Capital Ltd which reported a gain of Rs 29.95 with the closing rate 729.95. The loosers were led by Siemens Pakistan which sustained a loss of Rs 69, with the closing rate 1600.00, followed by Pak Engineering which suffered a loss of Rs 17.00 with the closing rate 343.00.
Nishat Mills topped the list of the companies which reflected significant turnover as it reported a turnover of 23,012,200, followed by DG Khan Cement 22,909,800, The Bank of Punjab16,167200, Bank Al-Falah 15,607,500, Engro Chemicals 12,965,000, Pak Oilfields 10,451,400, Azgard Nine 9,821,000, Pak PTA Ltd 9,329,500, Fauji Fert Bin 8,497,000, and lastly PTCLA 8,470,200. Similarly, the trading value also reported significant increase as it cited the figures as 4,779,585,815,565, while on Wednesday it was 4,753,427,987,958.
In future contracts, 27 companies reported gains, 13 sustained losses while 2 companies remained stable.
Senior broker, Ghani Bhai, opined that the Karachi Share Market had been moving "very soundly" and the investors were out to make some 'big investments.' The market has fully attained the much needed stability and now it was consolidating its position regularly. He hoped that the market would continue to behave in an orderly manner. The weekend session tomorrow will be 'very important' and may witness some more records.
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KSE reaches highest-ever peak of 15,622.30pts. Hope Delhi stock market does same. Good luck to your market.
Millions of people are getting better economically.
Zafar Ahmad
KARACHI: Karachi Share Market continued to depict bullish trend recording a further gain of 81.95 points, pushing the 100-price index to 15622.30 points.
The Thursday's index was the highest-ever recorded by the Share Market as the index on Wednesday was 15540.35 points.
The Share Market had been going steadily as it was daily the recording of higher points.
Similarly, the free-float (30-index) reported a gain of 47.59 as the index moved from 18948.74 points to 18996.33 points, citing a percentage of 0.25.
The stock analysts commended the working of the Karachi Share Market as the investors had been moving freely and investing according to their investment plans. The index today moved to 15622.30 points while it closed yesterday at 15540.35 points, depicting a net gain of 81.95 points.
The market had been enjoying 'boom' and it was attracting investors in a big way, the analysts concluded.
The ground realities continued unchanged. The Sindh Government has been inducted but minus MQM, which the politicians and the Karachiities felt awkward.
There had been whisperings about the Sindh Governor with the reports that the governor's powers have been clipped.
It was disturbing for the investors who think that the PPP must sort out a way to work with the MQM as it was in the larger interest of the people.
Similarly, investors feel that the increase in the petrol prices during the recent weeks was 'third' in a row which was definitely not in their interest and was bitterly criticised by the investors. Analysts opine that tomorrow will be the weekend sessions and hopefully there would be some new records, including the highest-ever records as the Share Market has been going strong, providing all the confidence to investors.
On Friday trading period, Pak ReInsur topped the list of the companies depicting highest increase in their rates, as it recorded an increase of Rs33.55, with the closing rates 705.10, followed by AKD Capital Ltd which reported a gain of Rs 29.95 with the closing rate 729.95. The loosers were led by Siemens Pakistan which sustained a loss of Rs 69, with the closing rate 1600.00, followed by Pak Engineering which suffered a loss of Rs 17.00 with the closing rate 343.00.
Nishat Mills topped the list of the companies which reflected significant turnover as it reported a turnover of 23,012,200, followed by DG Khan Cement 22,909,800, The Bank of Punjab16,167200, Bank Al-Falah 15,607,500, Engro Chemicals 12,965,000, Pak Oilfields 10,451,400, Azgard Nine 9,821,000, Pak PTA Ltd 9,329,500, Fauji Fert Bin 8,497,000, and lastly PTCLA 8,470,200. Similarly, the trading value also reported significant increase as it cited the figures as 4,779,585,815,565, while on Wednesday it was 4,753,427,987,958.
In future contracts, 27 companies reported gains, 13 sustained losses while 2 companies remained stable.
Senior broker, Ghani Bhai, opined that the Karachi Share Market had been moving "very soundly" and the investors were out to make some 'big investments.' The market has fully attained the much needed stability and now it was consolidating its position regularly. He hoped that the market would continue to behave in an orderly manner. The weekend session tomorrow will be 'very important' and may witness some more records.
---PDF Corner---
::Today's Front Page
::Today's Back Page
---Today's Birthday---
---R E V I E W S---
ShowBiz
Miley to pen autobiography
Sports
Shoaib Akhtar arrives at NCA to face a tribunal hearing regarding ban on him
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#48 Posted by 1Safe on April 17, 2008 1:12:35 am
Re: # 46 # 47
Media can do a lot, but cannot project character on somebody if it does not exist. And, how can we separate a person from his politics? The way a person conducts himself is also the way he would conduct his politics.
Media can do a lot, but cannot project character on somebody if it does not exist. And, how can we separate a person from his politics? The way a person conducts himself is also the way he would conduct his politics.
#47 Posted by rf786 on April 16, 2008 9:50:05 pm
Re: # 41
1safe
I agree with regarding Reza Gilani's likeable personality, but would like to caution general perceptions are a fuunction of media representation and more importantly political decisions. Either of the two can change such perceptions very quickly, case in point Musharraf.
1safe
I agree with regarding Reza Gilani's likeable personality, but would like to caution general perceptions are a fuunction of media representation and more importantly political decisions. Either of the two can change such perceptions very quickly, case in point Musharraf.
#46 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 16, 2008 8:00:02 pm
Re: # 41 You talk about bogus "adab".
Why not study postings by Mr.Masadi.
This pace in drama school for adab and Khandan but to deliver food, electricity and water to all "non Khandan" people.
Even after studying and reading by Masadi still he thinks new heaven has fallen on our land. All gullible worrying about "aadab and Khandan".
Why not study postings by Mr.Masadi.
This pace in drama school for adab and Khandan but to deliver food, electricity and water to all "non Khandan" people.
Even after studying and reading by Masadi still he thinks new heaven has fallen on our land. All gullible worrying about "aadab and Khandan".
#45 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 16, 2008 7:59:44 pm
Re: # 41 You talk about bogus "adab".
Why not study postings by Mr.Masadi.
This pace in drama school for adab and Khandan but to deliver food, electricity and water to all "non Khandan" people.
Even after studying and reading by Masadi still he thinks new heaven has fallen on our land. All gullible worrying about "aadab and Khandan".
Why not study postings by Mr.Masadi.
This pace in drama school for adab and Khandan but to deliver food, electricity and water to all "non Khandan" people.
Even after studying and reading by Masadi still he thinks new heaven has fallen on our land. All gullible worrying about "aadab and Khandan".
#44 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 16, 2008 7:51:00 pm
Re: # 43 Generally alcohol is bad but which is desi due to crazy stuff they put in. Most real foreign liquiors are different and they have reduced toxicity of alcohol and most poison is filterd through char coal and they use fresh waters from real springs iin scottland or in Russian vodaka ice frozen few thousand yeas ago from siberia. Now I read little foreign alcohol is ok as you reduce heart problems as that alcohol goes in vains and burns artitary blockage and once that blockage is removed then bood flows like big artillery shell and destroys blockage. But if you drink toomuch then blast can break artiries and you die. May be country can permit / allow people to drink if medical condition requires.
#43 Posted by ahmedmadani on April 16, 2008 7:43:38 pm
Re: # 42 Gopldfinger..... Please do not talk about ZAB like that. He was not hypocrite he use to drink , even QAMA use to drink good foreign liquiors so it used to help them. Now these are addictions and Initially ZAB use to drink alcohol as time passed alcohol began to drink him. He was sad about his drinking addiction. But he was honest about this. Once he said in message to people in lecture " Ha may Sharab pita hu but Ghuribonka khoon nahi pita". ( For urdu handicapped... Yes i am abuser of alcohol ( forbidden haram thing , in real ultra muslim countries you can get 50 hunter lashes) but i do not blood of poor pakistanies.
You have not understood what Mr. Masadi is saying so let me put for blinds.
Nothing has changed and usa is controlling and micromanaging.USA has economically made a slave country.
Only kings party has changed PML(q) is replaced with PPP and they scratch back of general and he keeps asif in good mood.
Mrs Bhutto's shahidat is bogus not like her father. Sne had accepted role as person protectiuing american interests and americans ordered for elections hopeing she will get post of PM and WOT will go on.
Now usa elites do not give damn to democracy so all feudals are in game , nothing has changed only poor PPP at bottom levels who suffer for family interests got nice shaft.
Look mr. Prachanda of Nepal totally rejected usa elites and never compromised and so he elected and change will affect. Now BB and company are corroupt company business similar to East India company and like Meer Jaffar and co , PPP leadership will do all to serve usa elites and save their skins and white wash all economic crimes. Just like in usa there are two parties just two groups with indentical ways. As usual bottom political activist suffer like donkeys for ungrateful masters. USA WOT will continue as they have put ropes of economic assistance to keep Pakistan down , it crime a asian giant nation is kept like lame by usa so pakistan govt can not rise to help its own people but is survile to American interests.
Hope people blinded with hatred against masadi think what he writes and forget all other of nonintellctual work. There some nasty people prone to provoke and blame masadi and even YLH. Just some peole want to divert attention to some trivial things. Good day.
You have not understood what Mr. Masadi is saying so let me put for blinds.
Nothing has changed and usa is controlling and micromanaging.USA has economically made a slave country.
Only kings party has changed PML(q) is replaced with PPP and they scratch back of general and he keeps asif in good mood.
Mrs Bhutto's shahidat is bogus not like her father. Sne had accepted role as person protectiuing american interests and americans ordered for elections hopeing she will get post of PM and WOT will go on.
Now usa elites do not give damn to democracy so all feudals are in game , nothing has changed only poor PPP at bottom levels who suffer for family interests got nice shaft.
Look mr. Prachanda of Nepal totally rejected usa elites and never compromised and so he elected and change will affect. Now BB and company are corroupt company business similar to East India company and like Meer Jaffar and co , PPP leadership will do all to serve usa elites and save their skins and white wash all economic crimes. Just like in usa there are two parties just two groups with indentical ways. As usual bottom political activist suffer like donkeys for ungrateful masters. USA WOT will continue as they have put ropes of economic assistance to keep Pakistan down , it crime a asian giant nation is kept like lame by usa so pakistan govt can not rise to help its own people but is survile to American interests.
Hope people blinded with hatred against masadi think what he writes and forget all other of nonintellctual work. There some nasty people prone to provoke and blame masadi and even YLH. Just some peole want to divert attention to some trivial things. Good day.
#42 Posted by Goldfinger on April 16, 2008 3:35:53 pm
Re: # 35
Religiosity, alcohol drinking, designer suit wearing stuff only becomes hypocrisy when you ban alcohol for every one else by official decree but continue drinking it yourself, for others you chant socialistic mantras, yet yourself live in utter luxuries...and sorry I'm not a retired army jerk either, just an innocent bystander who is on to every dirty trick played up by every charlatan upon this hapless populace...and I merely wish to assure you that no awakening of the people occurred, much that you must be fond of conspiracy theories...if it had things would be different now...and keep in mind that soldiers too are a part of this populace and not from Mars or Venus. I am sorry to say that the hero everyone is looking for hasn't arrived as yet.
Religiosity, alcohol drinking, designer suit wearing stuff only becomes hypocrisy when you ban alcohol for every one else by official decree but continue drinking it yourself, for others you chant socialistic mantras, yet yourself live in utter luxuries...and sorry I'm not a retired army jerk either, just an innocent bystander who is on to every dirty trick played up by every charlatan upon this hapless populace...and I merely wish to assure you that no awakening of the people occurred, much that you must be fond of conspiracy theories...if it had things would be different now...and keep in mind that soldiers too are a part of this populace and not from Mars or Venus. I am sorry to say that the hero everyone is looking for hasn't arrived as yet.
#41 Posted by 1Safe on April 16, 2008 2:19:59 pm
Re: # 40
Couldn't agree more with this post!
Just wanted to add that Yusuf Raza Gilani is winning hearts with every gesture.
He is so full of tehzeeb and adab.
The more one sees and hears him, the more one is prone to like him.
He is such a real Pakistani.
Feel very optimistic!
Couldn't agree more with this post!
Just wanted to add that Yusuf Raza Gilani is winning hearts with every gesture.
He is so full of tehzeeb and adab.
The more one sees and hears him, the more one is prone to like him.
He is such a real Pakistani.
Feel very optimistic!
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