Benazir’s Legacy

But yes, from MAJ's point of view - the whole thing was personal and ego... for muslim masses, there was a real desire to separate... no denying that...

also - very fact that muslims responded to MAJ's calls for "Muslim Nation" in overwhelming numbers is evidence that they wanted aprtition... after all, Direct Action Day was stupendous success - right?

It's not as if, MAJ was forcing people to join his "revolution"...

Re: # 20 masadi
[...Mohar has it dead wrong is that somehow "pakis" wanted Pakistan- the partition was not a democratic affair...]

well, I thought there was a vote sometime in '40s where muslims voted for partition... which is why pakis keep telling us that pakiland creation was a democratic excercise... I mean - what am I missing here?...

Besides - if pakis didn't really want separation, then they would have shuttled back to "mother india" as years went by after '47 - right?... I mean, the colonial master were gone and their allies local elites were gone too within a few years... nobody was preventing them by force or anything - right?... or atleast, pakis would have campaigned to keep a friendly relation with india...

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Re: # 18 dada

The path envisaged by MAJ, pubh was not very clear to begin with... he had made reference to koran and islam in one hand and secularism on the other...

Even if secularism is what MAJ,pubh wanted, it was in contrary with what paki masses really wanted - I mean, pakis never wanted a secular state where hinuds go to temples, and muslims can go to mosques, ahmedis are considered muslims...

I mean - come on, "muslims will cease to be muslims"... if that's what pakis wanted, they might as well stayed in India... right?

Masadi is right... even jinnah had clearly identified the "strategic" location as pakiland turmp card, it's USP for the world...

Masadi sahib,

While I wud agree with your characterisation of the state of affairs of Pakistan for much of its history post-1947 I wud strongly like to refute that it had anything to do with MAJ (pbuh). Pak's current state happened purely becuase the country strayed from the path that was envisaged by its founder.

Regards

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A sad day for pakistan,

The president of pakistan goes to china and all that hecan think of is yet another way to milk the gographic location of pakistan. There is no identification of teh skill set of the paki people, because there is none, no iudentification of production capabilities, because there is none, it is the same old jinnah legacy...pakistan is the axis aroud which teh world revolves.

This situation is so pathetic. Even with teh IPI pipe line, the maximum pakis can get is 300 million per year, which is a small amount, but the pakis cannot think of anything else to offer as a capability of the nation.


Musharraf makes Chinese oil plea
President Musharraf salutes a guard of honour with Chinese President Hu Jintao (left)
China and Pakistan have traditionally enjoyed close relations

The Pakistani president, Pervez Musharraf, says he is lobbying Chinese leaders to build gas and oil pipelines between his country and China.

President Musharraf, who is on a six-day visit to China, expressed confidence that the proposed pipeline was technically feasible.

The route of the pipeline will link the Gulf and China through Pakistan.

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Tahir,

That is really bad for you. I have several times indicated my email address

jayp@raw.gov.in, but it is sad that your articles are also not published, which clearly indicates that teh US based RAW agents are paymasters of chowk owners.

Try contacting ISI to fix up teh mess.

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Despite the sad way of BB's exit from the scene, the only legacy of a corrupt, shallow, inept daughter of a self-serving megalomaniac, can be more corruption, misrule and thuggery. What is this democracy, (and what good is it for the people), that brings to the fore only criminals and thieves?

To be bluntly accurate, horse-dung has more radiance that that repulsive woman ever had.... and her whelp is as much a disgrace to humanity as is the creature that sired it. Sharif is not even worth discussing as no decent means to do so exists.

The Pakistani electorate, particularly the "enlightened" middle classes have the sense of cattle.

This is the reality of the situation, try as you might to dress it up as anything else.

Beena,

Was dissapointed with this article. You claim:

(i) the street power which helped induce elections was provided by party workers.

Very few will buy this line. Maybe after 10 years, but not today. The lawyers/students were the prominent protesters. Yes, some party workers might have been present. NS's party could not even mobilize when he came the 1st time. PPP was hardly in any scene.

(ii) You seem to indicate that BB convinced the Gringos to allow her and NS to return.

BB had been running from one capital to the other. Forget convincing, she could not even meet with prominent policy makers. The Gringos had to withdraw obvert support from the dictator because "people" were marching on the streets. BB was the cover/front. She did not convince Washington that they needed to talk to the "jihadis", she even suggested that the Gringos could come in. How much time do you need to "forget"?

(iii) You, like Zardari, are cunningly implying that this new phase of "democracy" is because of BB.

Again, who are you trying to fool? BB's role was small, if any. Yes, she was a glamorous leader and it is sad that she was murdered.

A dictator who seized power with international help will not leave honorably. However, the politicians may fall apart and that what Mushrraf's best hope is. How come he withdraws all legal cases against Zardari? Either all those cases were fradulents or it is politics. In either case the people will get more alienated with the western legal system. Cases are drawn back to drive a wedge between Shrief and Zardari as the ex-chief judge chaudhray is against withdrawl of cases. Even the case in which Murtaza Bhutto was assasinated has been taken out. People who know the inside story, Benazir was always bickering that Leghari would not allow certain transactions go throguh. So Zardari kidnapped Laghari's daughter in Karachi and moved her into interior Sind. When Murtaza came to know about this tragedy he followed Zardari and recoverd her within 12 hours. There was a fighting and Murtaza's buddies killed almost 3 dozens Zaradi's men. Murtaza's comrades were all Al-Zulfiqar trained guys. Zardari was captured and Murtaza shaved off Zardari's one side moustache. Then Murtaza called president Leghari and told him that 'he would bring his sister to Islamabad next day' referring to Leghari's daughter. And then Murtaza was killed soon after. How one can ignore such a crime? The Pakistani lawyers are exercising in futile as the state law is worse than Hira Mandi's codes of sin.

Benazir proved to be a disgrace to her fathers good name. Despite all his flaws, shortcomings and faults Zulfiqar at least did not compromise with East India Company and gracefully kissed the noose.

As compared to him Benazir was incompetent, manipulative, and most of all without integrity. probably, that is the reason despite an election with in couple of months of her assassination by East India company, her party did quite poorly. The voter turn out was pathetically low - below 10%. That reflects on the political maturity that general Pakistani public is showing and the new demands it is putting on political leadership. Pakistan's political paradigm has changed. The countdown has begun for East India Company ki najaiz aulaad.