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Student Movement Revisited

S Haroon Ahmed and Saleem Asmi April 6, 2008

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#25 Posted by tahir on April 14, 2008 5:59:16 am
Dear brothers in faith,

Don't let CHOWK's new look fool you into thinking that some 'new management' has taken over and that things will suddenly improve. If they do at all, let it be known that I have repeatedly requested CHOWK editors to MODERATE and control the RAW-agents who have nothing better to do than analyse Pakistani news and then stoop to abusing Islam and the Prophets by pretending to be interacters!

There is deathly silence at the editor's desk. Surprised? Not only this, they are guilty of killing quite a few of my articles over the years! I beleive, they still have not received the 'security clearance' to publish them.

One door closes but many others will open. CHOWK is not the final frontier; that it has degenerated into a hate-site should not come as a surprise to those who have turned it into one.

One evening's worth of search reveals that these anti-Islam half-humans will not reform. They are nicely linked; most 'kufr' is anyway. That goodnes stands squabbling amongst itself is a sad situation and I expect that born-Muslim interacters here will remember who they are, where they come from, and where they might be headed if they join hands with 'highly-educated satans'.

Indeed, the Qur'an calls all such persons who lapse into utter unbelief 'monkeys' and 'pigs'. Why? Because the outward behaviour and moral decadence begins to resemble that of such animals.

I must thank those who stood up for me, and those who even thought of doing the same but were afraid of being ridiculed or abused.

There are three kinds of men in this world; fighters, collaborators, and traitors.

See where you fit!

Regards.
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#24 Posted by Salman_0902 on April 11, 2008 8:49:23 pm
I was involved in student politics in Karachi. I remaind presedent of 2 associations at a time. still I was in top 5 students in my class. I even spent some time in jail because of it. big rallies and student programs were arranged at that time. infact the biggest rallies of that year were organized by my unit.
I think politics is important in student life. we learn from there, we can't learn from books and from our Teachers how to live in the world. poor teachers cannot find any better jobs than that. otherwise they would be doing something else.
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#23 Posted by hamzaad on April 11, 2008 6:43:40 pm
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#22 Posted by Senna on April 11, 2008 5:09:51 pm
Re: # 21

Sarkar Hamari Hamzad sau bimari

"helped/hindered by voters/taxpayers."he he
Mitte chooza HaRmzadA

"....Would should could"..Bhashan washan chor mote

almost blind thick bespecticled geek against my students union Ek thappar doon ga...

Who wants your meaning less vote when girls dont like to look at your terha chehra
while we have so much fun campaigning for students union

Tax bhi lenge magar kitne bamboo karen ge yeh bhi hum karen ge.Kyon ke tou federal prison maine hoga tax evation ke liye.
After 8 years we have bamboozled you degree holder lining up for peon job!!!!




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#21 Posted by hamzaad on April 11, 2008 4:03:12 pm
So senna bhosri ka, sets aside his 'real life bravado', to fabricate student poltics success...

Abay senna ki jhaanT, the draft during the 60's was the reason of chicken-shit students shitting blood for breakfast, and not some altruistic grassroot awakening. And it fits in your theiving framework of either 'minister's job' or throwing tantrums to to avoid the draft. So now lunD choos.

As always, US involvement in Veitnam should be helped/hindered by voters/taxpayers. Leave the universities for schooling.
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#20 Posted by Senna on April 11, 2008 2:28:24 am
Re: # 19
Haramzade ,Jab saley ise bhi zayada 15 thApril ko IRS tumhare 'leta hai'Bomb barsane ko tumhare ummah par

Buddhu burbak ignoramus College politics ne
Vietnam band kiya,
China mein azadi de ,
iran meine thera Baap American 'ke ley le'

but whom i am talking to wailing silent wall of non Historian

Gaadhe kahin ke dekh abhi tak tere mote bheje maine bat nahi aye
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#19 Posted by hamzaad on April 10, 2008 5:08:37 pm
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#18 Posted by Senna on April 9, 2008 4:32:43 pm
#17

Dont be naive to think in real world Any body is accountable to voting public & tax payers.
Ministers govt servents infuential beurocrats those hussling in the govt spurlge all the money in luxury, travels ,goods, perks .Do you think ppl. living in 'DEFENCE' benefit voters and tax payers.

more than 50% dont vote in India (Pakistan just learning democracy)Vote cast on basis of religion caste ethnicity not on accountibility and benefit .

Add to that fact college is NOT only for churning out degrees learning by wrote & total living in vacum oblivious of society and social conditions.
Where else training for democracy will occur ..
oh i for got you have not had democracy
and Military has turned you in to obedient havildars.

Under which rock you have crawled out, smell the flowers of spring and change
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#17 Posted by hamzaad on April 9, 2008 8:10:48 am
senna,

The question is.. can the voting public and tax payers benefit from student participation in educational institutions.. and if not wouldn't it behoove them to vote to stop the funding to schools etc.

If you say that some of the students, who are also voting and tax paying public, benefit from doing politics and getting minister job... then kindly slide back under the rock you came from.
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#16 Posted by pavocavalry on April 9, 2008 7:31:59 am
good article
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#15 Posted by Senna on April 8, 2008 6:36:20 am
#13#14
In the heirarchy of power
Power to change lies in any of the three segments ..legislative ,judiciary & Executive.

In a bad or immature democracy your scenerio may be true (Clashes institutions closed).Neverthe less the basic tenents holds good in any stage of democracy.What degrees? it will be good for JOBS doled out by the same non degree holder legislatures.
In fact the judiciary as we see is tools in the hand of netas
.As for the head of state how many of them have had DEGREES from any institution?
Add to that corrupt &lawless law enforce ment
unemployment of 'degree 'holders
corruption in 3rd world in large part causing chaos & anarchy .

What & how you bell the cat?
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#14 Posted by saadya on April 7, 2008 10:28:20 pm
The revival of student unions will just be beneficial for those who want to progress in life on the basis of support from a political party.

Rest of the students will be facing problems in completing their degree in time.As the educational institutes may remain closed mostly , due to clashes between different unions

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#13 Posted by saadya on April 7, 2008 10:19:46 pm
Re: # 12
agreed
but before this ravishing future we have a present too
which has to be taken care of

shall we forget it

or you think present is also brightened???

I have seen many students who have political affiliations

always runing for some place to hide

their parents dont see their faces for months

they are under the constant fear of loosing their lives

once they enter some party

cant leave it

only their dead bodies can escape from there

& u said right they get jobs at ministerial level etc

we dont want all of our students to become minister

do we

basically they learn to become criminals

To measure some ones success in life by how much he earns is not correct





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#12 Posted by Senna on April 7, 2008 2:27:51 pm
#10 Saadya

What else can politics offer you.
Not a bad return for future
law makers ,apponted judges ,portfolio holder ministers and power yielding over all the geek scholars with blinders and & tunnel vision...

The leftists in colleges end up as capitalist ..The foot soldiers as in all sphears end up just as victimised for whom they bled.Promise of revolution is manipulative tool only
in the hand of leaders


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#11 Posted by bulleya on April 7, 2008 9:50:47 am
aslam644#: ....all i can say is, "pakistan zindabad!!! quaid-e-azam zindabad!!!"
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#10 Posted by saadya on April 7, 2008 8:54:47 am
Re: # 8

thats it....

is that enough reason to get into politics

to get position in society

by any hook or crook

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    #25 tahir
    #24 Salman_0902
    #23 hamzaad
    #22 Senna
    #21 hamzaad
    #20 Senna
    #19 hamzaad
    #18 Senna
    #17 hamzaad
    #16 pavocavalry
    #15 Senna
    #14 saadya
    #13 saadya
    #12 Senna
    #11 bulleya
    #10 saadya
    #9 Sanatani
    #8 Senna
    #7 aslam644
    #6 aslam644
    #5 sgb
    #4 sgb
    #3 ahmedmadani
    #2 hamzaad
    #1 teshah

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