Ikramul Haq April 9, 2008
#13 Posted by sgb on April 10, 2008 4:48:50 am
Re: # 10
Mr.Zeemax why r u against MQM???
constantly blaming them for every thing
after all u live in karachi
even then against the ruling party of khi u speak all the time
why is that so :)
It was due to the MQM workers that on the day of BENAZIR'S death we were saved from the thefts and killings & kidnaps
Mr.Zeemax why r u against MQM???
constantly blaming them for every thing
after all u live in karachi
even then against the ruling party of khi u speak all the time
why is that so :)
It was due to the MQM workers that on the day of BENAZIR'S death we were saved from the thefts and killings & kidnaps
#12 Posted by Urstruly on April 10, 2008 4:44:43 am
Re: # 10 Zeemax
In these testing times it is every Pakistanis patriotic duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with our brave lawyers from all across the country who have challenged all anti-Pakistani cancer in our society.
SHABASH WAKILO - KHUDA TUMHARE SAATH HAY, KHUDAI TUMHARE SAATH HAY.
PAKISTANI WAKIL SHER ZINDABAD
HARAMI SIYASATDAN, KUTTI FOUJ, AUR AMRIKA KE CHAMCHAY MURDABAD.
kHUDA KI La'anat on all political leadership and pakistani fouj.
In these testing times it is every Pakistanis patriotic duty to stand shoulder to shoulder with our brave lawyers from all across the country who have challenged all anti-Pakistani cancer in our society.
SHABASH WAKILO - KHUDA TUMHARE SAATH HAY, KHUDAI TUMHARE SAATH HAY.
PAKISTANI WAKIL SHER ZINDABAD
HARAMI SIYASATDAN, KUTTI FOUJ, AUR AMRIKA KE CHAMCHAY MURDABAD.
kHUDA KI La'anat on all political leadership and pakistani fouj.
#11 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 4:40:53 am
Nikhat,
Thousand appologies to Faiz and his lovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You may have to apologize to Echoboom for that!
Thousand appologies to Faiz and his lovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You may have to apologize to Echoboom for that!
#10 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 4:33:49 am
Karachi Riots: MQM & The Establishment - To Blame
By Teeth Maestro on Apr 10, 2008
I would like to share with you an analysis shared by a lawyer who claims that MQM deliberately started the fight and then took the battle onto the streets if Karachi
So far as I have been able to ascertain, the turmoil started around 12.00 in the Karachi Bar Association when a group of lawyers belonging to the Legal Aid Committee (an MQM-backed organisation comprising lawyers working in the CDGK, KESC and other state owned organisations) accompanied by a number of non-lawyers marched into the general body meeting of the Karachi Bar chanting slogans in favour of Musharraf and condemning the Sher Afgan incident. At this point, the lawyers of the Legal Aid Committee claimed that one of their number had been assaulted and injured by some other lawyers and chaos erupted.
Within minutes, the City Courts were cordoned off by hundreds of MQM activists who started firing at lawyers and setting fire to their vehicles. Around this time, news started coming in that the Malir Bar Association building had been burned. Then they started attacking the buildings around the City Courts (which are predominantly occupied by lawyers chambers) and set fire to them. It was clearly a pre-planned action. Lawyers’ offices and residences as far afield as Zamzama, PECHS and Gulistan-e-Jauhar were attacked.
We fear that at least 5 lawyers have been burned alive in Tahir Plaza including Altaf Abbasi, Firdous Ali and Shehryar, although there are no confirmations as yet. Our efforts to collect concrete information about deaths and injuries have been hampered by the fact that most of the office-bearers of the KBA went into hiding after former President Ifikhar Kazi’s office was fired upon and present General Secretary Naeem Qureshi’s apartment was set on fire
This meticulously planned campaign of death and destruction lends strength to our belief that the Sher Afgan incident in Lahore was orchestrated by Musharraf’s allies/agencies to discredit and subsequently crush the lawyers’ movement. Ofcourse, it has the dual advantage of blackmailing the PPP into bending backwards to accommodate MQM in their government. We hope that PPP shall resist this blackmail.
Unfortunately, the media’s role in chronicling this repeat carnage has been deeply disappointing. Some channels reported this tragedy as arising out of a fight between lawyers and even suggesting that it was unclear whether it was those lawyers or some other unidentified persons who set the buildings on fire! Others played up some sort of moral equivalence or causal relationship between the Sher Afgan/Ghulam Arbab incident and the Karachi carnage. While one could expect this kind of garbage from MQM’s militant wing, it is shocking to see TV journalists/anchors buying into this perverted viewpoint. On the one hand you have a few slaps and slippers to a couple of ex-ministers (leaving aside, for the time being, who was or was not responsible) and on the other you have 12 dead people (5 burned alive) and dozens of cars and buses set aflame. To even mention the two extremes in the same sentence (much less comparing the two and giving them equal coverage) is just shameful.
MQM’s repetition of their 12th May massacre must be chronicled in detail. We need to start this process immediately. There are two main sets of easily identifiable eyewitnesses: lawyers and reporters. Maybe we can form two teams that will focus on each group separately.
If the Urdu Speakers continue to support MQM, I'm afraid they will lead them to nowhere but to the fate of those who were led by Al-Shams & Al-Badr, aligned with Pakistan Army, against the Bengalis - and are still rotting Stateless in Bangladeshi camps.
By Teeth Maestro on Apr 10, 2008
I would like to share with you an analysis shared by a lawyer who claims that MQM deliberately started the fight and then took the battle onto the streets if Karachi
So far as I have been able to ascertain, the turmoil started around 12.00 in the Karachi Bar Association when a group of lawyers belonging to the Legal Aid Committee (an MQM-backed organisation comprising lawyers working in the CDGK, KESC and other state owned organisations) accompanied by a number of non-lawyers marched into the general body meeting of the Karachi Bar chanting slogans in favour of Musharraf and condemning the Sher Afgan incident. At this point, the lawyers of the Legal Aid Committee claimed that one of their number had been assaulted and injured by some other lawyers and chaos erupted.
Within minutes, the City Courts were cordoned off by hundreds of MQM activists who started firing at lawyers and setting fire to their vehicles. Around this time, news started coming in that the Malir Bar Association building had been burned. Then they started attacking the buildings around the City Courts (which are predominantly occupied by lawyers chambers) and set fire to them. It was clearly a pre-planned action. Lawyers’ offices and residences as far afield as Zamzama, PECHS and Gulistan-e-Jauhar were attacked.
We fear that at least 5 lawyers have been burned alive in Tahir Plaza including Altaf Abbasi, Firdous Ali and Shehryar, although there are no confirmations as yet. Our efforts to collect concrete information about deaths and injuries have been hampered by the fact that most of the office-bearers of the KBA went into hiding after former President Ifikhar Kazi’s office was fired upon and present General Secretary Naeem Qureshi’s apartment was set on fire
This meticulously planned campaign of death and destruction lends strength to our belief that the Sher Afgan incident in Lahore was orchestrated by Musharraf’s allies/agencies to discredit and subsequently crush the lawyers’ movement. Ofcourse, it has the dual advantage of blackmailing the PPP into bending backwards to accommodate MQM in their government. We hope that PPP shall resist this blackmail.
Unfortunately, the media’s role in chronicling this repeat carnage has been deeply disappointing. Some channels reported this tragedy as arising out of a fight between lawyers and even suggesting that it was unclear whether it was those lawyers or some other unidentified persons who set the buildings on fire! Others played up some sort of moral equivalence or causal relationship between the Sher Afgan/Ghulam Arbab incident and the Karachi carnage. While one could expect this kind of garbage from MQM’s militant wing, it is shocking to see TV journalists/anchors buying into this perverted viewpoint. On the one hand you have a few slaps and slippers to a couple of ex-ministers (leaving aside, for the time being, who was or was not responsible) and on the other you have 12 dead people (5 burned alive) and dozens of cars and buses set aflame. To even mention the two extremes in the same sentence (much less comparing the two and giving them equal coverage) is just shameful.
MQM’s repetition of their 12th May massacre must be chronicled in detail. We need to start this process immediately. There are two main sets of easily identifiable eyewitnesses: lawyers and reporters. Maybe we can form two teams that will focus on each group separately.
If the Urdu Speakers continue to support MQM, I'm afraid they will lead them to nowhere but to the fate of those who were led by Al-Shams & Al-Badr, aligned with Pakistan Army, against the Bengalis - and are still rotting Stateless in Bangladeshi camps.
#8 Posted by Urstruly on April 10, 2008 4:18:48 am
Re: # 4 Nikhat
Some other time, some other decade I really would have enjoyed your poetry, but unfortunately the time of getting ghee out of container with straight finger has come and gone. Pakistani nation, whether they like it or not are forced to make tough choices now - this is because they have been compalcent to these corrupt, pro-western ruling elite for so long. Tbe day of reckonning is upon us all. We must weed out the scum for the sake of our own survival.
Some other time, some other decade I really would have enjoyed your poetry, but unfortunately the time of getting ghee out of container with straight finger has come and gone. Pakistani nation, whether they like it or not are forced to make tough choices now - this is because they have been compalcent to these corrupt, pro-western ruling elite for so long. Tbe day of reckonning is upon us all. We must weed out the scum for the sake of our own survival.
#7 Posted by Urstruly on April 10, 2008 3:56:36 am
I am in fact quite disappointed by the arbab/afgan debacle. According to my assessment the time of "inn haramioN ko chun chun kar mara jai" is already upon us, but these m/fs just keep getting off easy.
One thing is clear that fouj and the corrupt pro-western ruling elite will never relinquish powers to the people. They will fight tooth to nail. But the writing is on the wall - that they have been chosen for elimination by the process of Natural Selection. Nature abhors corrupt, inefficient, and incopmetent.
It was predicted all along almost a year ago, that the American plan is to establish PPP+MQM+PML-Q/N militias in addition to the state machinery and fouj to further oppress the citizens of Pakistan. These militias will soon establish torture centers across the country (probably they already have) - fouj has allocated 4 billion rupees to establish these torture centers. In addition to these the sacks full of dollars are coming in the country to buy the loyalties of these so called elected ones, who sell their mothers for coins.
There is no hope -except with guillotines - gangerene has spread too far deep.
#6 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 2:01:42 am
During 1998, BJP resorted to thermo neuclear test, to garner absolute majority. Somehow, that failed miserably due to harsh weather, high price (inflation rose to more than 15%) their gameplan had not succeded fully...Pakistan awarded BJP another term through Kargil...
I am sure, inflation is the major problem in Pakistan, like India (may not be in the similar scale like India)... unless and until Pakistan manages to collect middle-east money through madressah/mosque funds, the new Govt. will sure loose people's favour...
I am sure, inflation is the major problem in Pakistan, like India (may not be in the similar scale like India)... unless and until Pakistan manages to collect middle-east money through madressah/mosque funds, the new Govt. will sure loose people's favour...
#5 Posted by nkg on April 10, 2008 1:45:33 am
Re: # 1
Money....That wins everything in 3rd world countries...
Army is obeying America, because they are bribed more than expected. Just engage into another war with India, Pakistani Armed forces will be in forefront again ( from 0 to hero)...People will pour in support for them...
Politics of hate intolerence is basic problem of society. Why to blame politicians alone?
Money....That wins everything in 3rd world countries...
Army is obeying America, because they are bribed more than expected. Just engage into another war with India, Pakistani Armed forces will be in forefront again ( from 0 to hero)...People will pour in support for them...
Politics of hate intolerence is basic problem of society. Why to blame politicians alone?
#4 Posted by Nikhat on April 10, 2008 1:09:18 am
Very true! every word written I think is what every conscientious Pakistani feels.
Zeemax ur equation is interesting. The digit 'ZERO' is very powerful in arithmatic. When u miss it many numericals will remain unsolved, unresolved in this case.
I wrote this parody of Faiz sahib's beautiful gazal on current politics of Pakistan:
Kub siyasat mein 'SAM' ka haath naheen,Kub jurnailoan ko us ka saath naheen
Kaise maanein 'Zardari' hukoomat mein,Musharraf se 'deal' kee Koi baat naheen
Mushkil hain ager haalat wahan,Jaein NRO le aaein
Aqal waloan Awam to jhalle hain ab aise bhee hallat naheen
Jis dhaj se koi '90' gaya woh maafian hee baqee rehtee hain
Yeh jaanein to Kamioan kee jaanee hain, 12thMay hua koi baat naheen
Maidane Aamir, darbare Sadar,yaan qatl-o-garat kee puuch kahan
corruption to kissee ka naam naheen, eimaan leader kee zaat naheen
Yeh baazee power kee bazee hai,jo chaho laga do derr kaisa
Jo jeet gae to parliment mein hain,haare bhee to baazi maat naheen......
Thousand appologies to Faiz and his lovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"
Nikhat Riaz
Zeemax ur equation is interesting. The digit 'ZERO' is very powerful in arithmatic. When u miss it many numericals will remain unsolved, unresolved in this case.
I wrote this parody of Faiz sahib's beautiful gazal on current politics of Pakistan:
Kub siyasat mein 'SAM' ka haath naheen,Kub jurnailoan ko us ka saath naheen
Kaise maanein 'Zardari' hukoomat mein,Musharraf se 'deal' kee Koi baat naheen
Mushkil hain ager haalat wahan,Jaein NRO le aaein
Aqal waloan Awam to jhalle hain ab aise bhee hallat naheen
Jis dhaj se koi '90' gaya woh maafian hee baqee rehtee hain
Yeh jaanein to Kamioan kee jaanee hain, 12thMay hua koi baat naheen
Maidane Aamir, darbare Sadar,yaan qatl-o-garat kee puuch kahan
corruption to kissee ka naam naheen, eimaan leader kee zaat naheen
Yeh baazee power kee bazee hai,jo chaho laga do derr kaisa
Jo jeet gae to parliment mein hain,haare bhee to baazi maat naheen......
Thousand appologies to Faiz and his lovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"
Nikhat Riaz
#3 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 12:15:16 am
#2 Posted by majumdar,
Right. Also the equation assumes army at a constant of zero.
Right. Also the equation assumes army at a constant of zero.
#2 Posted by majumdar on April 9, 2008 11:38:40 pm
Zee sahib,
We will also have to consider which side the 3As of Pakistan- Army, Allah and America take. Allah is on Side 2, America on Side 1. That leaves Army as the undecided one, no?
Regards
We will also have to consider which side the 3As of Pakistan- Army, Allah and America take. Allah is on Side 2, America on Side 1. That leaves Army as the undecided one, no?
Regards
#1 Posted by zeemax on April 9, 2008 11:09:13 pm
The equation goes thus:
Musharraf+PML(Q)+MQM *(1/3 Parliament) + Dogar Court =
VS
PPP+PML(N)+ANP *(2/3 Parliament) x (Media + Judiciary + Civil Society)=
It won't be a surprise which side will win.
Musharraf+PML(Q)+MQM *(1/3 Parliament) + Dogar Court =
VS
PPP+PML(N)+ANP *(2/3 Parliament) x (Media + Judiciary + Civil Society)=
It won't be a surprise which side will win.
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