How to End Politics of Hate and Intolerance

Re: misc. by izuber

Maybe the following will penetrate your brain. Maybe it won't. Brainwashing from birth is difficult to eradicate.

All I can say is - try to read this as a logical exercise, if nothing else. And see what you get.

Of course, I do not expect any logical thinking from you or any faithful muslim. Unquestioning submission precludes any independent thinking that might make the faithful change their mind about "submitting".

http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/montazeri.htm

Re: # 191

izuber,

I could not make head and tail of what you posted. let me paraphrase, that you consider yourself to be a good human and it has nothing to do with any religion. let alone islam.

Pl let me know in case you meant something different.

Re: # 194
Being a good human has everything to do with Islam, while no faith teaches hatred or violence, while acts of few should not be used to portray entire community by stereotyping.

If this is an effort on anyone's part to influence me away from my faith that is absurd and an attempt in vain.

To sum it up, I denounce violence and murder of any human equally, be the victim of my faith or any other faith, regardless.

Hope you are able to understand but if you cant you need to ponder some more.

Re: # 193
Your post demonstrates a downright influence of brainwashing, a faithful Muslim is the best Muslim in all manners, as anything less could not be considered a Muslim.

Let me know when you are ready to take pronounce Shahadat and it would be my honor and privilege to dispense.

May Allah SWT reincarnate your brain to a level better than its present state and bless you with a greater vision, ameen.

#195 izuber

[To sum it up, I denounce violence and murder of any human equally, be the victim of my faith or any other faith, regardless.]

So do you denounce the murder by beheading of 700 UNARMED civilians by mohammad? And the selling of their HELPLESS and INNOCENT women and CHILDREN into slavery?

I guess you don't? Eh?

See how trying to be logical contradicts your long-held beliefs that are based on blind faith?

#195 izuber

[If this is an effort on anyone's part to influence me away from my faith that is absurd and an attempt in vain.]

Yes. Everyone is dying to steal you away from your "faith" to swell their own ranks.

God knows how people get the way you muslims do. I guess all Abrahamic religions are this way. Perfect for tribal instincts that go so well with the reptilian part of the brain.

#198 by ajeya

"God knows how people get the way you muslims do. I guess all Abrahamic religions are this way. Perfect for tribal instincts that go so well with the reptilian part of the brain."

Yes, God knows very well but it's people with an elevator that fails to reach the top floor who dont know & try not to understand.
Did you think of Brahimin as Abrahimic too?

#199 izuber

So you avoided answering post# 197.

Just a coincidence, I'm sure. :-)

Thanks izuber, be careful, very very careful in pakistan. It appears that you are ready to consider even the ahmadias as equals, and even alleges that all relegions could be equal.

Hope the god, what ever be his name, protects you from the blasphemy laws of the islamic republic of pakistan.

Never ever get in touch with tahmed, urstruly, zeemax etc of chowk, becuase you are new, you may not know them, they are ISI and jihadi agents on chowk.

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Read the following. And then imagine if 5 hindu adults had raped a 13-year-old Muslim girl in Lahore or Islamabad or anywhere else in a Muslim country.

http://www.mid-day.com/web/guest/news/mumbai/article?_EXT_5_articleI d=1086772&_EXT_5_groupId=14

13-year-old allegedly gangraped for over a year
Author: Ketan Rang Date: 13 Apr 2008


By Ketan Ranga

Swati Sonavne (name changed), mother of 13-year-old Sunita Sonavne (name changed) was shocked when doctors at a private hospital in Ghatkopar on Thursday told her that Sunita was five months pregnant. When she questioned Sunita, she was told that she had been raped multiple times by five men for the last one and a half year.

The five men had warned her to not to talk about it to anyone or they would harm her and also defame her and her parents’ image. Her mother took her to Ghatkopar police station and filed a complaint on Friday. The police have also arrested four of the five accused while one is absconding.

Sunita told her mother that the five men were Allah Rakha Sayyed (20), Munir Shaikh (19), both her school mates, Liyakat Khan (30), son of the landlord in whose house the Sonavnes live and Shaukhat Ali Shaikh (24) and Munna Sayyed, staying in their locality. The five had been allegedly raping her since November 2006. The five people were everyday visitors to their home. Sunita identified the men in front of the police.

Sunita’s mother took her to the hospital after she noticed some changes in her body. Also, Swati had been complaining of stomach pain. When she was taken for a medical checkup, the doctors told her mother that she was five months pregnant.

The men allegedly had sexual relations with her when her parents went out for work. Said F Pawar, police inspector at Ghatkopar police station, “We have registered a gangrape case against five men. We have arrested four men, while Munna is still wanted.”

NEVER listen to liberals. Remember - Daniel Pearl was a liberal.

Re: # 201 JayP
JayP states:
"Thanks izuber, be careful, very very careful in pakistan. It appears that you are ready to consider even the ahmadias as equals, and even alleges that all relegions could be equal.

Hope the god, what ever be his name, protects you from the blasphemy laws of the islamic republic of pakistan.

Never ever get in touch with tahmed, urstruly, zeemax etc of chowk, becuase you are new, you may not know them, they are ISI and jihadi agents on chowk."

All humans are equal, yet I cannot allow you to committ blasphemy, be you a hindu, a jew, ahmadi or whatever.

Secondly all those you named in your comments for me to boycott are my brothers so dont expect me to give up on them only because you feel that they respond in kind to those who are blasphemous.
I hold my brothers dearly while I am very sorry that you misunderstood my approach which only calls for humanly rights of course those are accorded to the ones who are humanly, all others get the "aja moray balma tera intezar haye wala liter on their you know what"

Re: # 197
No actually I take pride in that very much and if you dont know how to and where at to tie your dhoti then stop running your filthy mouth about subjects that you and your kind will never understand.
after all, "latoan kay bhoot batoan say nahin mantay" and you appear to be one who is asking for it.

#205 izuber

[No actually I take pride in that very much and if you dont know how to and where at to tie your dhoti then stop running your filthy mouth about subjects that you and your kind will never understand.]

I doubt very much if you are more intelligent than me, and this is such a complex issue that I cannot understand. The issue is very simple. An uneducated bedouin hoodwinked other unwashed bedouins with some mumbo-jumbo about chatting with a winged creature in a cave. And since the Old Testament and the New Testament are too large to memorize at once, he had "revelations" only from time to time. He also had convenient revelations to save his a$$ from trouble - like when his wives threatened to go public about his spending too much time with the white egyptian slave Maria.
It is not very complicated that being a complete pervert, he had the hots for a poor little girl when she was 6. And being a monster, he beheaded 700 unarmed civilians.

Strong resemblences with Pol Pot, except Pol Pot did not have the hots for little kids.

About the "tying the dhoti" bit. I think we showed you guys how to tie the dhoti on December 16, 1971. Just in case you have forgotten, more lessons will be imparted.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7346111.stm
Ch.Ch.Ch... A teacher teaching Quoran is facing such hardship in ISLAMIC country!!!
Ijuber, come on, do something...
Quoran is science. Pakistanis read quoran. Still they are not able to develop agriculture,industry,healthcare in such a way that, it makes them self sufficient...
See the achievement of the most hated people of Muhammed and his gang...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5tDDkvXSI8

Politics reflects our culture. Political violence is not unique in Pakistan. Bangladesh and other regions ( like UP and Bihar in India),where urdoo/islamic culture proliferated also witness similar phenomenon.
Kerala and West Bengal also (with more than 25% muslim population) faces similar problem.