How to End Politics of Hate and Intolerance

Re: # 95
Who shall get the pleasure of sending all these characters to the guillotin? What do you envision after that?

Re: # 94
Dont get too high on the intellectual capacity of zardari.He may not be making all these moves by travelling on the same wavelenth as you do.

HP #94 agree with most of what you say, particularly the part about mqm being basically a criminal organization that needs to be dealt with as such. no political party brings out men with guns to kill innocent civilians - and unlike may 12 this time the PPP govt needs to apprehend the culprits (not just the street thugs, but the gangleaders above them), or else it will stand exposed as being ineffective on what the pm himself declared to be the single biggest issue - law and order.

as for the cj being a bargaining chip - i think NS realizes now (even if zardari does not) that, thanks to the widespread public discontent with military meddling in politics, the military is in no position to start bargaining even if it wanted to.

#98
It may not be easy for you to grasp, the reference to Zardari implies his colleagues too. He is the one executing the advice.
I am sure that he was advised to go to 90 and I am sure he has some counselors.

Tahmed,

What makes you think the army cares about what people say on the street? As long as their interest are protected they will not bother but when they see any thing different, they will react to that.

Re: # 100
Some councelors,who sent him to 90 to listens to the harrangues of altafbhai for 30 minutes.

I was appalled to read Mush's statement that Karachi was a reaction to Sher Afgan and Arbab Rahim. You have a president backed by the army who has the galls to say 11 people killed and houses torched for a few slapped those idiots got.

#101 HP: because the last things generals need to see is military being asked to shoot at its own people. and so far the military under new management has demonstrated that it understands this.

Sorry, a few slaps!

#103 this scoundrel is his own worst enemy.

Tahmed,

Well military has never hesitated to shoot people in Pakistan. Maybe not in Punjab yet, by I think they are reaching the desperation point. They will use pathan soldiers in punjab. You are dealing with a killing machine.

Re: # 95 Posted by Urstruly on April 10, 2008 11:33:49 am

Urstruly sahib,

If you truly want to come across as real and genuine, in your criticism please do not limit yourself only to the western elite. There are these Salafi muslim countries such as KSA that are sending their petro-dollars and using Pakistan as their own fiefdom. They would rather see Pakistan as another failed state like Somalia, or like Sudan.

[I have always maintained that the corrupt, pro-western elite, which includes fouj, feudal lords, politicians, sirkari moulvis, fascist warlords like MQM and their minions in bureaucracy and state machinery. It is a whole class.]

Now will you be kind enough to include all the "misarees" (egytians), and the kings of oil wealth Arab nations, and their Arab population, who consider Pakistan as their own fiefdom?

Please remember when it comes to Pakistanis, we are all miskeens for the arabs (their kings and their people).

Can you become a truth seeking person?

#107 sad to say, but the fact is that no general would dare to ask the military to start shooting in the panjab - the family ties are too strong here. if one brother is out in the streets protesting military rule, another is in the military. the panjab, and lahore/pindi area in particular is the fat lady in this case, and when the fat lady sings the game is up for the dictator - happened to ayub, happened to yahya (who even had a speech written out on why the "national interest" called upon him to continue after the fall of dhaka, and was told by the generals that the nation was in no mood to put up with his crap anymore).

to complete #109: and the fat lady sang again in 2007, and mush had to part with his uniform and the game was basically up for him at that time. since then, he has been reduced to asking to be allowed in power even if 52b and other powers are taken away and he is reduced to being a useful idiot to the pm.

to complete #109: and the fat lady sang again in 2007, and mush had to part with his uniform and the game was basically up for him at that time. since then, he has been reduced to asking to be allowed in power even if 52b and other powers are taken away and he is reduced to being a useful idiot to the pm.

If the ppl of LUMS dont know how to get Pakistan outta this (hate & Intolerance) who else cud?

It looks like Pakistan has become the sick-man of South Asia.