unflinching idealism ... since 1997 archivessitemapabouthelpfeedback
all are welcome to read, write and think
  • Home
  • InFocus
  • Themes
  • Columns
  • Articles
  • Fiction
  • iLogs
  • Gallery
  • Unplugged
  • Writers
  • Interactors
  • Tags
Sign in | Join Chowk
web chowk
  • Article
  • Interact
  • read writer comments
  • add to favorites
  • get rss feeds
  • print
  • email this link

How to End Politics of Hate and Intolerance

Ikramul Haq April 9, 2008

Latest comments   flat   threaded   latest   oldest   all
listing 80-96   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

#81 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:16:15 am
#80 Posted by Urstruly,

Three weeks? Yes. The restoration count down will stop on 30 April, and the bombs will start. There'll be no stopping them.

I had just hoped that could be prevented.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#82 Posted by queen_cut_paste on April 10, 2008 10:19:53 am
hi zeemax.

Zeemax and ursturky stop being such drama queens. What has happened so far! nothing zilch a few guys got killed. Nothing new in pakistan people were killed before are being killed now and will be killed in thefuture as well.

What is important to note the kill rate?

What is even more important is to establish institutions which will work? For this you need to make sure that there is an orderly change of govt every so often. It is this that is the most important point to remember

You buggers have been brainwashed for way to looooong and are nothing but a bunch of weird drama queens. Stop crying yourself hoarse and get on with life. Don't you lot have jobs and work to do?

Nothing has happened which is out of the ordinary. Some people got burnt, a few others killed. Happens everyday. Yeah, life sucks
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#83 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:25:39 am
#82 Posted by queen_cut_paste,

Hello Queeny,

Now let me read your post!
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#84 Posted by queen_cut_paste on April 10, 2008 10:29:58 am
Re: # 83 yeah, zeemax let me also add:

stop pouring out those crocodile tears. The people killed are not the ordinary people like those in lal Masjid but the middle classes who had a laugh when Lal masjid was ram-rodded.

The middle-classes are fighting amongst themselves for the $$$$$ of loot coming Pakistan's way from Uncle Sam. The ordinary person will not see a dime of this.

Why not wait for them to finish off each other and tire their precious little dicks out before you send in the raiding parties for the women and the loot.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#85 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:31:20 am
#82 Posted by queen_cut_paste,

Ok Queeny I read your post. You're right.

I'm starting an index like the Personal Consumption Expenditure Deflater which the Fed uses to move interest rates up and down. Only here, it will not be the interest rates but the rate of bombs, and measure the deflated.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#86 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:32:39 am
#84 Posted by queen_cut_paste,

Now you're sounding like cockroach_5 so I don't think I have a response.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#87 Posted by queen_cut_paste on April 10, 2008 10:36:13 am
Re: # 85 zee that is more fruitful and will give you a better idea of the killings.

BTw you need to factor in the class as well. Better still have multiple indices one for each class and type within a class to see the attrition rate.

Your turn for the gaddi is around the corner, as you so rightly predict. I would say max 1.5 years and you are in.

BTW some gossip: scout_new has just announced on Unplugged that your Bette- noire is sort of like paun bhari know what I mean check out the thread by scout
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#88 Posted by queen_cut_paste on April 10, 2008 10:37:56 am
Re: # 86 who is cockroach_5?

Listen it is the common man that you need to keep in mind here. they are important. people like yourselves need to have your heads in good shape to take care of them. The middle classes can take care of themselves - BTW they all have dual nationality ... so being in pakistan is just one of those things!
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#89 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:38:56 am
#87 Posted by queen_cut_paste,

Bette- noire ... paun bhari ??? Ok I'll check.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#90 Posted by queen_cut_paste on April 10, 2008 10:40:11 am
Re: # 86 Stop being so enigmatic! I have not been around to recently to figure out the lastest nics and characters on Chowk. So please fill in the details when you make wild accusations!
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#91 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:42:37 am
queen_cut_paste,

... oh. Not interested.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#92 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 10:45:00 am
#90 Posted by queen_cut_paste,

Yaar how many cockroaches have a suffix of underscore 5 with their nick? C'mon ... you even figured out the Shia nuke and the Sunni Nuke. How can you miss this?
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#93 Posted by treetop on April 10, 2008 11:10:53 am
Broadwayqueen and tampax,looks like match made in heavens.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#94 Posted by HP on April 10, 2008 11:18:42 am
I am unable to figure out Zeemax and Urstruly’s end of the story type pessimism. Just a few days ago, they were climbing on the trees with enthusiasm. Nothing is easy in the mess that Pakistan is now and I think what is coming up may be even worse. Imo, Pakistan is still at about 50% mark and the last 50% would be the toughest. So brace for more. Instead of going up and down with the tide just understand things as they are not what you wish them to be.

Zardari’s gamble to get to the MQM before it commits with the army again, basically failed. Though it was hard to swallow at that time, his move to make peace with the MQM was good. Zardari’s assessment that MQM was dangerous and it should be neutralized was not far off.

As long as Musharaf is able to convince the MQM that he will stay in power and the army will continue to protect him and the MQM, chances are the MQM will maintain its non-compromising stand and would continue to blackmail the PPP. Even after the PPP is forced to accept MQM in the government, they will continue to pressure the govt on every issue.

MQM is a gang of criminals and they cannot be defeated by political actions alone. I guess Nasarullah Baber’s assessment was right on the money. And later Nawaz agreed with that too. But the real gang of criminals behind this Bhatta enterprise is Pakistan’s army.

They are forcing the new government to accept a secondary position in the set up. The MQM is one tool to blackmail the new government.

Zardari made another mistake when he tried to distance himself from the Judges issue to appease the army. He needs to maintain the CJ issue as a major bargaining chip and use it diligently like NS is doing.

He shouldn’t let it go at the first sign of compromise. He should continue to dangle the offer to ditch the CJ as long as he could.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#95 Posted by Urstruly on April 10, 2008 11:33:49 am
Re: # 94 HP,

Your assessment is correct, however, I was never jumping up and down. I have always maintained that the corrupt, pro-western elite, which includes fouj, feudal lords, politicians, sirkari moulvis, fascist warlords like MQM and their minions in bureaucracy and state machinery. It is a whole class. They will never ever let rule of law establish in this country unless a majority of them are guillotined. Th current corrupt and incompetent system has benefited them to such an extent that as urdu proverb goes "has a rabbid dog bitten them?" to change all this. because of this system everyday of theirs is eid day and every night is a wedding night. Only last week the City nazim of Multan bought a private jet for US$ 80 million. I'd buy a private jet when I've at least 800 million dolalrs to spare. Think in the context of Pakistan how this class is enriching on the misery of people. We should forget about democracy/shamocracy when these bastards are at helm. I always maintained that. Zeemax was the optimist one.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
#96 Posted by zeemax on April 10, 2008 11:40:32 am
#94 Posted by HP,

You're in your unusual depth with this post, not seen for a long time. Let me read it closely.
reply to this interact write a new interact add to favorites flag objectionable content
listing 80-96   1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11

Interact Index

    #221 lahorelaw
    #220 akcheema
    #219 tahir
    #218 jayp
    #217 peonoftheeast
    #216 tahir
    #215 sattar2
    #214 tahir
    #213 nkg
    #212 jayp
    #211 nkg
    #210 nkg
    #209 nkg
    #208 nkg
    #207 nkg
    #206 ajeya
    #205 izuber
    #204 izuber
    #203 ajeya
    #202 tahir
    #201 jayp
    #200 ajeya
    #199 izuber
    #198 ajeya
    #197 ajeya
    #196 izuber
    #195 izuber
    #194 jayp
    #193 ajeya
    #192 izuber
    #191 izuber
    #190 jayp
    #189 izuber
    #188 izuber
    #187 jayp
    #186 izuber
    #185 nature_lover
    #184 peonoftheeast
    #183 peonoftheeast
    #182 izuber
    #181 peonofthewest
    #180 peonoftheeast
    #179 jayp
    #178 ajeya
    #177 mohar11
    #176 HPsauce
    #175 bubba
    #174 bubba
    #173 zeemax
    #172 treetop
    #171 queen_cut_paste
    #170 queen_cut_paste
    #169 zeemax
    #168 zeemax
    #167 queen_cut_paste
    #166 queen_cut_paste
    #165 queen_cut_paste
    #164 zeemax
    #163 zeemax
    #162 Faruk
    #161 queen_cut_paste
    #160 rf786
    #159 tahmed32
    #158 hamidm2
    #157 ajeya
    #156 tahmed32
    #155 zeemax
    #154 Urstruly
    #153 rf786
    #152 treetop
    #151 rf786
    #150 tahmed32
    #149 Urstruly
    #148 hamidm2
    #147 rf786
    #146 hamidm2
    #145 rf786
    #144 hamidm2
    #143 Urstruly
    #142 rf786
    #141 bubba
    #140 Urstruly
    #139 bubba
    #138 treetop
    #137 zeemax
    #136 tahmed32
    #135 Dash_Dot
    #134 tahmed32
    #133 zeemax
    #132 tahmed32
    #131 Urstruly
    #130 Urstruly
    #129 zeemax
    #128 hamidm2
    #127 tahmed32
    #126 Urstruly
    #125 Dash_Dot
    #124 Urstruly
    #123 Urstruly
    #122 Urstruly
    #121 zeemax
    #120 muqaddam
    #119 tahmed32
    #118 jayp
    #117 ijaz_gul
    #116 bjkumar
    #115 bjkumar
    #114 treetop
    #113 VRV
    #112 VRV
    #111 tahmed32
    #110 tahmed32
    #109 tahmed32
    #108 bubba
    #107 HP
    #106 tahmed32
    #105 HP
    #104 tahmed32
    #103 HP
    #102 treetop
    #101 HP
    #100 HP
    #99 tahmed32
    #98 treetop
    #97 treetop
    #96 zeemax
    #95 Urstruly
    #94 HP
    #93 treetop
    #92 zeemax
    #91 zeemax
    #90 queen_cut_paste
    #89 zeemax
    #88 queen_cut_paste
    #87 queen_cut_paste
    #86 zeemax
    #85 zeemax
    #84 queen_cut_paste
    #83 zeemax
    #82 queen_cut_paste
    #81 zeemax
    #80 Urstruly
    #79 zeemax
    #78 arjun_5
    #77 mohar11
    #76 Urstruly
    #75 zeemax
    #74 Urstruly
    #73 zeemax
    #72 GT
    #71 sgb
    #70 zeemax
    #69 zeemax
    #68 Urstruly
    #67 zeemax
    #66 sgb
    #65 Urstruly
    #64 sgb
    #63 sgb
    #62 sgb
    #61 GT
    #60 zeemax
    #59 zeemax
    #58 zeemax
    #57 zeemax
    #56 zeemax
    #55 GT
    #54 sgb
    #53 sgb
    #52 GT
    #51 sgb
    #50 zeemax
    #49 GT
    #48 bubba
    #47 sgb
    #46 sgb
    #45 zeemax
    #44 CheGuevara
    #43 zeemax
    #42 arjun_5
    #41 GT
    #40 zeemax
    #39 sgb
    #38 zeemax
    #37 Dash_Dot
    #36 peonoftheeast
    #35 GT
    #34 mohar11
    #33 Dash_Dot
    #32 arjun_5
    #31 Urstruly
    #30 arjun_5
    #29 ferozk
    #28 peonofthewest
    #27 sgb
    #26 GT
    #25 arjun_5
    #24 Urstruly
    #23 Urstruly
    #22 ferozk
    #21 sgb
    #20 arjun_5
    #19 Urstruly
    #18 GT
    #17 Urstruly
    #16 GT
    #15 sgb
    #14 GT
    #13 sgb
    #12 Urstruly
    #11 zeemax
    #10 zeemax
    #9 zeemax
    #8 Urstruly
    #7 Urstruly
    #6 nkg
    #5 nkg
    #4 Nikhat
    #3 zeemax
    #2 majumdar
    #1 zeemax

Latest Interacts

  • masadi: Anil sahib, nice try... Historian Amaresh Misra on
  • pakiturk: My friends, ML, MQM, PPP,... MQM - History and
  • anil: Masadi sahib: Your brain is... Historian Amaresh Misra on
  • masadi: Thinking sahib, Please pardon the... Fathers and Daughters
  • masadi: Anil writes "You show... Historian Amaresh Misra on
  • pakiturk: #86 Posted by hamidm2... MQM - History and
  • vatanparast: #107 Whatever I say is... MQM - History and
  • anil: Masadi sahib: Paranoia should... Historian Amaresh Misra on

THEMES

  • Pakistan's Struggle for Democracy
  • The Indian Story
  • Indo-Pak Relations
  • Personal Narratives
  • Religion Today
  • War on Terror
  • Role of Media
  • Call for Social Change
  • Hold Them Accountable
  • Environment and Us
  • Way of Life
more »

Top 5 Articles This Week

  • Popular
  • Living Gandhi and King Today: Unbroken Historic Continuity
  • MQM - History and Origins
  • Reforming Religious Fundamentalists
  • Fathers and Daughters
  • A Weak Pakistan is a Threat to Neighbours
  • Featured
  • There are a Lot of Monkeys
  • White Charade
  • Words of a Woman
  • FOX News and the Smelly Shoes
  • Dilemmas of Creative Children
  • 10 Years Ago
  • The Amsterdam Treasures
  • Crying Buddha
  • Patriot Games
  • Cry my Beloved Country
  • Listen South Asia

Write on Chowk Interact Guidelines Privacy policy Terms Contact

Copyright © 1997 - 2008 chowk.com. All Rights Reserved
Reproduction of material on any www.chowk.com pages without prior written permissions is strictly prohibited