The ‘shoey’ Side of Politics

#267 Posted by rf786,

No Arif saheb. Media's role is also to point out and criticize shortcomings of Government. Remember, it is 'media', not just a Reuter ticker of news.

zeemax #257 Glad we agree on this. I think the freedom struggle of 2007 has been a great learning experience on democracy for all Pakistanis.

You can see the trend worldwide actually - latin america and east europe saw the fall of the dictators at the end of the cold war, and have shifted to peceful democracies focussed on improving lives of their people. pakistan and some african countries (notably kenya) are going through a freedom struggle today, and have largely won it. Turkey put the military in its place a couple of years back. the middle east is the last place on earth that is still safe for "hosni mubaraks" of the world, and no doubt their time too is coming in the middle east.

#268 Posted by IB,

Thanks. I will.

#265 Posted by GT,.

The CM of a neighboring state announces that "outsiders" should not vote in that state!

What's that about? Which neighboring State?

BTW you're right about the cornered part.

Re: # 272 tahmed bhai,
what about the 27th December Episode? all the cases has been declared 'void' by the present government?

#270 rf: why dont you just abuse me for speaking out against mqm ghoondas, rather than making up convenient "facts"?

Where am I calling for force again people simply because they disagree with me? If you cant answer the second question, then dont waste my time and your time making up lies.

I call for the use of force against those who break the law - e.g. those who committed the atrocities of may 12 and of april 9. and those ghoondas dont need an army operation - an honest policeman is all that is needed, as they themselves prove by howling against the removal of policemen who looked the other way while they committed their atrocities against innocent people!!

Re: # 266 IB
I am glad that you have intellectual integrity,and i am not patronizing

Re: # 249

tahmed32

{..those who live on the ground believe that it is constitutional checks and balances and basic freedoms of speech and vote that keeps a check on the executive.}

Sounds hypocritical coming From someone who propagates using army operation on people who disagree with his viewpoint.

Wasay I’ve serious reservations about the programme ‘bolta Pakistan’ on AAJ – it also happens to my favorite show. Nusrat Javed at times steps out of line – his comments about President ‘dancing with the glass on his head’ were offending.

I mean these guys / anchors on tele are actually a party to this and are bias.

Dr.Imran Farooq's Number? 00447947805963 (pls, ask his whereabouts)

Re: # 252

I disagree, like Mujeeb Shami rightly said, media does not perform the role of opposition, their role is to report events and may I add it should be objective, impartial reporting.

Well Dr. Imran Farooq has known to have a ‘more militant’ , ‘army man alike’ approach to issues although there(s) no doubt Dr.Imran Farooq is ‘Mr. Clean’ in terms of wealth in MQM. The bugger does not have a mortgaged house of his own in the UK whereas he still maintains his house (previously in Lalukhait) now in Aziazbad of 120 sq yards which two of his brothers, mother still lives. Dr.Imran Farooq drive a Vauxhall Vectra ‘V’ reg (2000) back in London – which further proves his image of Mr. Clean.

Saleem Shezad is made the spokesman of MQM (now days) because of his better speaking power as compared to Dr.Imran Farooq. Saleem bhai is vocal and is aggressive in nature as compared to Dr.Sahab.

As rightly pointed out that the media acts as an opposition but we should not forget the role of ‘real opposition’ – we as a nation blindly trusts people, sometimes without a rationale which should be stopped. I personally at times, go beyond limits in actually defending MQM as if I am a paid by them. I am desperately trying to change but still sensitive about my ethnic group and the sufferings of our people.

There are two issues I would like to touch upon:

1. dost_mittar talked about the "Delhi Culture", and some (HP, I think) implied that it was because of the influx of bhaiyyas from UP and Bihar. I do not think so. IMO it has more to do with migrants from East Punjab. I may be wrong, but compare Mumbai and Delhi.

2. While blaming MQM is fine and dandy, why refrain from criticizing other chauvanist/funadamentalist groups (with their own lumpen elements). Have they murdered less when they wielded power? The CM of a neighboring state announces that "outsiders" should not vote in that state! Nobody, in chowk (full of democrats and secularoons), has taken that up! With neighbors like that, why shouldn't the MQM behave like a cornered cat? Now please do not give the cause/effect bs ....

Re: # 258

Zeemax Paiyaan,

Saleem Shehzad is no role model, he is the low life of MQM like any other political party (Liaqat Baloch, Khawaja Asif, Rehman Malik) MQM has people who are used for the dirty job.

Imran Farooq is a true political worker and one can only pray that he is not sidelined. As for his whereabouts, well he was last heard from London, rest is "conjecture".

Re: # 262 zemax
you can be easily swayed

#261 Posted by treetop,

... meaning?