Ather Naqvi April 9, 2008
#197 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:45:40 pm
#195 Posted by IB,
IB Saheb, serious question. Who do you think those 100 guys on motorbikes were? Surely they couldn't be from the agencies.
IB Saheb, serious question. Who do you think those 100 guys on motorbikes were? Surely they couldn't be from the agencies.
#196 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 8:44:40 pm
Zeee, My another guess is that they were told that the 9th April will be investigated. In couple of days, I will probably talk to someone and find out the real reason. But I think the PPP tried to do more than what was expected of them.
#195 Posted by IB on April 13, 2008 8:42:50 pm
HP Uncle: Janab – I have what we call a ‘powa’ / ‘parchi’. Alhumdullah, I sleep good and with the grace of Allah earned a reputation of an honest officer. Posting me to Larkana or even Kherpur Mirus – would seriously be a big favor. I have my personal views which the constitution of Pakistan guarantees and then I have a job which I do – without discrimination. A criminal to me is a criminal – whatever b.s I utter and I am sure Sir, with all the venom against Urdus from you – you don’t mean most of it from your heart.
Izubair bhai sahab – with due respect, yaar unfortunately ‘nationalism’ is a better bonding force in Pakistan then religion (specially in Pakistans case).
Hamid Mian – bhai the interaction between me and zeemax was embarrassing – blame it on arjun!!!! And yeah, we will have dinner or something in future – you are invited too.Wasay wheres your Sheikh Rashid bhai? And your thoughts on Raja Pervaz?
Now a bit on Phatans – and a large number of them has infested my city – Karachi. Accoring to CPLC and Sind Police Survey which was conducted during the computerization of records – we noticed most of the crimes (specially bank robberies, arson attacks, decoities and drug trade) is actually commited by migrants who does not own a Karachi Domocile and a great percentage of them are actually phatans. And we narrow them down to the agencies – an average phatan from Mardan is a hard worker but a person coming from the tribal belt is one we should be eyeing on.
Izubair bhai sahab – with due respect, yaar unfortunately ‘nationalism’ is a better bonding force in Pakistan then religion (specially in Pakistans case).
Hamid Mian – bhai the interaction between me and zeemax was embarrassing – blame it on arjun!!!! And yeah, we will have dinner or something in future – you are invited too.Wasay wheres your Sheikh Rashid bhai? And your thoughts on Raja Pervaz?
Now a bit on Phatans – and a large number of them has infested my city – Karachi. Accoring to CPLC and Sind Police Survey which was conducted during the computerization of records – we noticed most of the crimes (specially bank robberies, arson attacks, decoities and drug trade) is actually commited by migrants who does not own a Karachi Domocile and a great percentage of them are actually phatans. And we narrow them down to the agencies – an average phatan from Mardan is a hard worker but a person coming from the tribal belt is one we should be eyeing on.
#194 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:39:16 pm
... further, I don't think MQM makes any difference in removal of 58-2(b). The 2/3 plus majority in Parliament already exists with a comfortable margin, and the required 2/3rd majority in a joint-session will be easily achieved even without a 2/3rd in senate alone. How many senators does MQM have?
#193 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:32:18 pm
#191 Posted by HP,
I suspect another reason. The ministries they were being offered were not powerful enough. With the posting of Suddle and Rao Anwaar plus massive shake-up expected soon in the entire Karachi police high-ups, MQM is preparing to go underground.
I'm sure the Sindh Government will go to any lengths in locating those 100 guys on motorbikes and who ordered them.
I suspect another reason. The ministries they were being offered were not powerful enough. With the posting of Suddle and Rao Anwaar plus massive shake-up expected soon in the entire Karachi police high-ups, MQM is preparing to go underground.
I'm sure the Sindh Government will go to any lengths in locating those 100 guys on motorbikes and who ordered them.
#192 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:24:59 pm
#175 Posted by IB,
Suddle Sahib as IGP, Sind ... although MQM was taken into confidence before the summary was send to the establishment division and interior ministry respectively.
That's not what Farooq sattar said in yesterday's press conference. He actually said they had decided to sit in opposition BECAUSE of Suddle's posting without consulting MQM.
Suddle Sahib as IGP, Sind ... although MQM was taken into confidence before the summary was send to the establishment division and interior ministry respectively.
That's not what Farooq sattar said in yesterday's press conference. He actually said they had decided to sit in opposition BECAUSE of Suddle's posting without consulting MQM.
#191 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 8:19:19 pm
#184 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 7:20:33 pm
So, HP, MQM decides to sit in opposition in Sindh. Comment?
Mush baba was not able to call them in time for them to make up there mind. So they did what was expected of him.
They will come around begging soon as they need power badly to collect Bahtta. That will happen after Mushy baba's departure or even before that!
Another idea is that they chickened out when they heard that the PPP would expect them to support the removal of 58-2b.
So, HP, MQM decides to sit in opposition in Sindh. Comment?
Mush baba was not able to call them in time for them to make up there mind. So they did what was expected of him.
They will come around begging soon as they need power badly to collect Bahtta. That will happen after Mushy baba's departure or even before that!
Another idea is that they chickened out when they heard that the PPP would expect them to support the removal of 58-2b.
#190 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 8:10:01 pm
#180 Posted by hamidm2 on April 13, 2008 6:19:14 pm
“.... based on the friendly discourse between ib and zeemax we can predict which way karachi is headed ...... burn, baby, burn ! “
Do’t worry Karachi will not burn again.
These churria(birds) maar and churri(knives) baaz can only burn unarmed and peaceful citizens. They will get the Babar cure, if they don’t right themselves now.
Who would have ever thought Pakistan has the RSS goons in Karachi masquerading as the MQM.
#182 Izubair,
I could figure out neither head nor tail of your long harangue. But I can guess it to be another screed in support of the goons in your community. You are no different than the common criminals you support in Karachi. And drop this religious pontification, no one is converting here nor is impressed with that.
IB,
There is nothing in your post that we have not heard here before. Lies and more lies can’t change the facts on the ground. (Btw, Consult Salim for free advice on how not to defend Mohajirs.)
You are playing with fire. A police Officer in Karachi posts to defend the MQM and its goons is possibly a part of the gang that burnt innocent people in Karachi. Watch out, unless you really want to leave Karachi for some remote place in Balochistan.
Shoaib would be looking for Kaali BhaiRrs in the police department. A link to these posts would help him immensely:)
“.... based on the friendly discourse between ib and zeemax we can predict which way karachi is headed ...... burn, baby, burn ! “
Do’t worry Karachi will not burn again.
These churria(birds) maar and churri(knives) baaz can only burn unarmed and peaceful citizens. They will get the Babar cure, if they don’t right themselves now.
Who would have ever thought Pakistan has the RSS goons in Karachi masquerading as the MQM.
#182 Izubair,
I could figure out neither head nor tail of your long harangue. But I can guess it to be another screed in support of the goons in your community. You are no different than the common criminals you support in Karachi. And drop this religious pontification, no one is converting here nor is impressed with that.
IB,
There is nothing in your post that we have not heard here before. Lies and more lies can’t change the facts on the ground. (Btw, Consult Salim for free advice on how not to defend Mohajirs.)
You are playing with fire. A police Officer in Karachi posts to defend the MQM and its goons is possibly a part of the gang that burnt innocent people in Karachi. Watch out, unless you really want to leave Karachi for some remote place in Balochistan.
Shoaib would be looking for Kaali BhaiRrs in the police department. A link to these posts would help him immensely:)
#189 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:03:38 pm
... BTW ... by drugs if you mean 'charas', they don't consider it haram!
#188 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:01:57 pm
#186 Posted by izuber,
Afghan-Pakhtoon refugees deal in drugs and other illegal activites? I thought most better-heeled of them were in the transport business and the less fortunate one's kids collect recyclable scrap.
Afghan-Pakhtoon refugees deal in drugs and other illegal activites? I thought most better-heeled of them were in the transport business and the less fortunate one's kids collect recyclable scrap.
#187 Posted by izuber on April 13, 2008 7:57:44 pm
Re: # 183
by the way you need to study a bit deeper into Afghan ethnicities than you may already have, while they must vacate Pakistan now specially Karachi pronto.
by the way you need to study a bit deeper into Afghan ethnicities than you may already have, while they must vacate Pakistan now specially Karachi pronto.
#186 Posted by izuber on April 13, 2008 7:55:36 pm
Re: # 183
Lanatullah min AlKadhibeen, Afghan-Pakhtoon refugees who deal in drugs and other illegal activites are not the kind that I would seek adherence to; even if that hurts you but it is the truth, and I can forgive you because you have already stated that you dont know anything about Karachi therefore I would be wrong if I called you ignorant.
Lanatullah min AlKadhibeen, Afghan-Pakhtoon refugees who deal in drugs and other illegal activites are not the kind that I would seek adherence to; even if that hurts you but it is the truth, and I can forgive you because you have already stated that you dont know anything about Karachi therefore I would be wrong if I called you ignorant.
#185 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 7:22:43 pm
#180 Posted by hamidm2,
No hamidm2, IB invited me for tea in the end :)
No hamidm2, IB invited me for tea in the end :)
#184 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 7:20:33 pm
So, HP, MQM decides to sit in opposition in Sindh. Comment?
#183 Posted by tahmed32 on April 13, 2008 6:49:19 pm
#181 " if all ethnicities in Pakistan can come to a resolution that the glue that adheres them to form the nation of Pakistan is none other than Allah SWT & HIS Prophet SAW/PBUH and the message conveyed by Quran-e-Hakeem"
the glue that adheres any society is respect for all communities in that society. the lack of which you betray in your bad mouthing pathans in your post.
the glue that adheres any society is respect for all communities in that society. the lack of which you betray in your bad mouthing pathans in your post.
#182 Posted by izuber on April 13, 2008 6:40:50 pm
Re: # 172
HP you need to learn to talk first before you began posting.......
"Yeah, right atrocities on Mohajir! What do you call burning people alive? Form a commission under Wajih uddin and Saeeduz zaman two respectable Mohjir judges and let them decide. You just can’t be happy that you and your generations got a safe place to grow and make your families prosper. You very well know what your relatives still do in India… barring a few who own podinay kay bagh!"
Typical envying mentality of who got what, by the people who carry a ruler to measure other's wealth and eyeing on it, shameful act of lowest level.
Alhamdulillah we prosper and will continue to prosper and if you are a follower of the faith we wish the same for you.
HP you need to learn to talk first before you began posting.......
"Yeah, right atrocities on Mohajir! What do you call burning people alive? Form a commission under Wajih uddin and Saeeduz zaman two respectable Mohjir judges and let them decide. You just can’t be happy that you and your generations got a safe place to grow and make your families prosper. You very well know what your relatives still do in India… barring a few who own podinay kay bagh!"
Typical envying mentality of who got what, by the people who carry a ruler to measure other's wealth and eyeing on it, shameful act of lowest level.
Alhamdulillah we prosper and will continue to prosper and if you are a follower of the faith we wish the same for you.
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