The ‘shoey’ Side of Politics

#452 "in all seriousness" i have no interest in your views concerning my views.

tahmed,

Calm down! You admitted to being a fool and I agreed :-) Now what?

In all seroiusness, I only pointed out flaws in your views, and you can't stomach it. You are being too touchy and making a fuss over nothing.

You need to go back to Prozac, you know (that's only a joke, you fool, no need to get worked up!)

#449/450 Posted by tahmed32,

Sure. I'll think about what you wrote. But if you consider Jamia Hafsa a tool of Musharraf, then you also have to consider Waziristan, Swat and now the Lashkar-e-Islam too.

I know you did actually consider Waziristan and Swat as tools of musharraf after Jamia Hafsa, so now you consider Lashkar-e-Islam the same as well.

Hmmm ... have a good break ... till there's another one.

zeemax: have to go. will check back later - but hopefully you will think about some of what i wrote.

#448 zeemax: first, musharraf did not have the people's mandate. his madate came from abuse of his military position.

second, musharraf was replaced because of the courageous struggle of thousands of pakistanis - lawyers, journalists, and later political parties. jamia hafsa were merely tools of musharraf to put this movement offbalance - and he moved against them only when the jamia hafsa went beyond their limits and attached chinese women - which brought the chinese down to pull musharraf's ears. (we have been thru this before, so you are free to disagree if you wish).

#443 Posted by tahmed32,

taking up arms to take attention away from the people's mandate.

If the Jamia Hafsa girls had not taken up dandas against musharraf, there would never have been a public mandate on 18 Feb 2008 in the first place.

But you'll need to think about that for a while.

#444 i could abuse you too the way you have been doing past few posts. but that would reduce me to your level, you pathetic man. so i'll simply say again: have a nice day. i have no interest in wasting time with you.

i am on chowk because I am chatting with zeemax. so kindly quit trying to start a "discussion" with me. i know you too well to waste time with you discussing anything.

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IB Sahib,
I have no idea about the nature of the debate or the points involved. I noticed this post of yours and I just had to compliment you on your truly Islamic outlook and your generosity in sharing this personal anecdote with us. I salute you and just want you to know how much I respect you for your recognition and compassion for our fellow humans' needs. Thank you.

{"Let me narrate a very personal story when I was 24. At the Pizza Hut Gulshan, Karachi. I organized a birthday brunch for friends – for about good 40 folks I spend about Rs. 10000 on pizzas and whatnot – when we all finished and I went out; I saw a baby girl dying from hunger. That day my life changed. I made a pledge to lead a very ‘ordinary life’ and Alhumdullah I am leading one – with skeletons attached."}

IB Sahib,
I have no idea about the nature of the debate or the points involved. I noticed this post of yours and I just had to compliment you on your truly Islamic outlook and your generosity in sharing this personal anecdote with us. I salute you and just want to know how much I respect you for your recognition and compassion for our fellow humans' needs. Thank you.

I agree you are a fool, but for a different reason. Don't be too upset; eventually it will all make sense!

#442 zeemax:

the electoral process is the process to participate in the formulating a people's mandate.

taking up arms against a democratic government is a process to take attention away from the people's mandate. and those doing it are mere criminals.

#440 Posted by tahmed32,

to put their issues on the agenda, rather than focus on the people's mandate?

err ... you always forget tamed32 that they're people too and they have a share in the popular mandate.

#439 re-read #430.

#438 put pressure for what? for the democratically elected government to put their issues on the agenda, rather than focus on the people's mandate?

tahmed,

I agree you are a fool indeed, but cited an entirely different reason to arrive at this conclusion.

Come back when you have pondered over getting conned into a useless war. Such reflection may help you see straight. And while at it, avoid "worrying about the future of mankind" ;-)

#437 Posted by tahmed32,

They don't want to hold ground. They just want to make a point and put great pressure, just like Lal-Masjid, Waziristan, Swat ... the bombs in Urban centers - etc.