Ather Naqvi April 9, 2008
#193 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:32:18 pm
#191 Posted by HP,
I suspect another reason. The ministries they were being offered were not powerful enough. With the posting of Suddle and Rao Anwaar plus massive shake-up expected soon in the entire Karachi police high-ups, MQM is preparing to go underground.
I'm sure the Sindh Government will go to any lengths in locating those 100 guys on motorbikes and who ordered them.
I suspect another reason. The ministries they were being offered were not powerful enough. With the posting of Suddle and Rao Anwaar plus massive shake-up expected soon in the entire Karachi police high-ups, MQM is preparing to go underground.
I'm sure the Sindh Government will go to any lengths in locating those 100 guys on motorbikes and who ordered them.
#194 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:39:16 pm
... further, I don't think MQM makes any difference in removal of 58-2(b). The 2/3 plus majority in Parliament already exists with a comfortable margin, and the required 2/3rd majority in a joint-session will be easily achieved even without a 2/3rd in senate alone. How many senators does MQM have?
#195 Posted by IB on April 13, 2008 8:42:50 pm
HP Uncle: Janab – I have what we call a ‘powa’ / ‘parchi’. Alhumdullah, I sleep good and with the grace of Allah earned a reputation of an honest officer. Posting me to Larkana or even Kherpur Mirus – would seriously be a big favor. I have my personal views which the constitution of Pakistan guarantees and then I have a job which I do – without discrimination. A criminal to me is a criminal – whatever b.s I utter and I am sure Sir, with all the venom against Urdus from you – you don’t mean most of it from your heart.
Izubair bhai sahab – with due respect, yaar unfortunately ‘nationalism’ is a better bonding force in Pakistan then religion (specially in Pakistans case).
Hamid Mian – bhai the interaction between me and zeemax was embarrassing – blame it on arjun!!!! And yeah, we will have dinner or something in future – you are invited too.Wasay wheres your Sheikh Rashid bhai? And your thoughts on Raja Pervaz?
Now a bit on Phatans – and a large number of them has infested my city – Karachi. Accoring to CPLC and Sind Police Survey which was conducted during the computerization of records – we noticed most of the crimes (specially bank robberies, arson attacks, decoities and drug trade) is actually commited by migrants who does not own a Karachi Domocile and a great percentage of them are actually phatans. And we narrow them down to the agencies – an average phatan from Mardan is a hard worker but a person coming from the tribal belt is one we should be eyeing on.
Izubair bhai sahab – with due respect, yaar unfortunately ‘nationalism’ is a better bonding force in Pakistan then religion (specially in Pakistans case).
Hamid Mian – bhai the interaction between me and zeemax was embarrassing – blame it on arjun!!!! And yeah, we will have dinner or something in future – you are invited too.Wasay wheres your Sheikh Rashid bhai? And your thoughts on Raja Pervaz?
Now a bit on Phatans – and a large number of them has infested my city – Karachi. Accoring to CPLC and Sind Police Survey which was conducted during the computerization of records – we noticed most of the crimes (specially bank robberies, arson attacks, decoities and drug trade) is actually commited by migrants who does not own a Karachi Domocile and a great percentage of them are actually phatans. And we narrow them down to the agencies – an average phatan from Mardan is a hard worker but a person coming from the tribal belt is one we should be eyeing on.
#196 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 8:44:40 pm
Zeee, My another guess is that they were told that the 9th April will be investigated. In couple of days, I will probably talk to someone and find out the real reason. But I think the PPP tried to do more than what was expected of them.
#197 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:45:40 pm
#195 Posted by IB,
IB Saheb, serious question. Who do you think those 100 guys on motorbikes were? Surely they couldn't be from the agencies.
IB Saheb, serious question. Who do you think those 100 guys on motorbikes were? Surely they couldn't be from the agencies.
#198 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 8:47:04 pm
#196 Posted by HP,
Yes PPP is under lots of pressure to investigate.
Yes PPP is under lots of pressure to investigate.
#199 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 8:52:20 pm
Zee,
"I don't think MQM makes any difference in removal of 58-2(b)"
Senate, Senate! my dear Watson!
Bhatijay IB, you don't have any powa bigger than mine. You are pretty much history, if you cross me here. Larkana or Khairpur?? Don't even think about those cities.
"I don't think MQM makes any difference in removal of 58-2(b)"
Senate, Senate! my dear Watson!
Bhatijay IB, you don't have any powa bigger than mine. You are pretty much history, if you cross me here. Larkana or Khairpur?? Don't even think about those cities.
#200 Posted by IB on April 13, 2008 8:52:22 pm
Maybe my reliable source is not as reliable anymore. Its astonishing why MQM were clueless about S.S posting as IGP Sindh while the gossip mongers at our head quarters has been discussing the news since day before yesterday.
MQM(s) real problem is that MQM is not happy about the attitude of some MNA(s) and MPA(s) of Sindh and the newly found Sindhi-gardi by an average Sindhi after PPP(s) government in Sindh.
The news is that the MQM wanted 40% share at the Sindh level and at least 3 ministries (port & shipping, communication and local bodies) but the PPP was not sure and wanted time.
Zee , I think MQM got 3 Senators but that could be checked (i am not so sure about this one)
MQM(s) real problem is that MQM is not happy about the attitude of some MNA(s) and MPA(s) of Sindh and the newly found Sindhi-gardi by an average Sindhi after PPP(s) government in Sindh.
The news is that the MQM wanted 40% share at the Sindh level and at least 3 ministries (port & shipping, communication and local bodies) but the PPP was not sure and wanted time.
Zee , I think MQM got 3 Senators but that could be checked (i am not so sure about this one)
#201 Posted by izuber on April 13, 2008 8:54:22 pm
#190 HP
Sad to learn that you were at the end of the que when brains were being distributed and you end up bringing a strainer to collect the remnants which you lost on your way back home.
Keep looking for the next distribution which is suspended till further notice and keep your empty coconut clean to collect when it is distributed next time.
Your name is once again at the end of the waiting list.
Sad to learn that you were at the end of the que when brains were being distributed and you end up bringing a strainer to collect the remnants which you lost on your way back home.
Keep looking for the next distribution which is suspended till further notice and keep your empty coconut clean to collect when it is distributed next time.
Your name is once again at the end of the waiting list.
#202 Posted by IB on April 13, 2008 8:58:24 pm
Re: # 199 HP Chacha, my first posting was in the rural of Sindh. I enjoyed the hospitality - it was all togather an eye opener - the poverty and billion year old rotten traditions. Now about 'Powas' , yaar dont underestimate the power of 'urdus' anytime, anywhere - pls. Fazool Ke Baat hain!
Zeemax Bhai, honestly, I dont have a clue who those bastar** were on the bikes :P
Zeemax Bhai, honestly, I dont have a clue who those bastar** were on the bikes :P
#204 Posted by zeemax on April 13, 2008 9:00:31 pm
#199 Posted by HP,
I said:
The 2/3 plus majority in Parliament already exists with a comfortable margin, and the required 2/3rd majority in a joint-session will be easily achieved even without a 2/3rd in senate alone. How many senators does MQM have?
This means the excess over and above 2/3rd Parliament will make up for any shortfall in Senate in a Joint Session. That's the constitutional requirement as I understand it.
I said:
The 2/3 plus majority in Parliament already exists with a comfortable margin, and the required 2/3rd majority in a joint-session will be easily achieved even without a 2/3rd in senate alone. How many senators does MQM have?
This means the excess over and above 2/3rd Parliament will make up for any shortfall in Senate in a Joint Session. That's the constitutional requirement as I understand it.
#205 Posted by IB on April 13, 2008 9:04:04 pm
Izuber bhai – wasay I respect your views – specially one in which you called for the UN probe. You are an honest man in a not so honest world.
#206 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 11:13:03 pm
#201 Posted by izuber
Please refrain from copy pasting those old ridiculous, meaningless, and completely stupid phrases.
shooo...
Please refrain from copy pasting those old ridiculous, meaningless, and completely stupid phrases.
shooo...
#207 Posted by HP on April 13, 2008 11:14:48 pm
#204 Posted by zeemax
You may be right. I thought the amendment has to go through the NA and the Senate for a separate pass.
You may be right. I thought the amendment has to go through the NA and the Senate for a separate pass.
#208 Posted by IB on April 13, 2008 11:16:17 pm
HP Chacha, tell me about the 'gos' in Sindh. It’s a delicacy right? I once ate kebabs unknowingly and then the host told me whats it made of and I puked. Although kebabs were good.
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