In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful
Azra Rashid April 20, 2008
#814 Posted by tahir on April 27, 2008 12:23:09 am
Re: # 801
The road to success (for some hand-piced ones at least) is littered with condoms lying outside condominiums.
Obviously, you speak from real experience, while I just know!
The U.N. knows all these details when it selects these already 'groomed' personalities.
The NOMAD lady has links with characters mentioned in MY FEUDAL LORD (by Tehmina Durrani).
How have you missed the fun on the main page Mr. Zee? What angered you?
The road to success (for some hand-piced ones at least) is littered with condoms lying outside condominiums.
Obviously, you speak from real experience, while I just know!
The U.N. knows all these details when it selects these already 'groomed' personalities.
The NOMAD lady has links with characters mentioned in MY FEUDAL LORD (by Tehmina Durrani).
How have you missed the fun on the main page Mr. Zee? What angered you?
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#813 Posted by Urstruly on April 27, 2008 12:22:22 am
Re: # 804 zeemax
But we must also understand that their agenda and propaganda is not only not innocent but it is in fact very vicious and it is getting deadlier everyday. For example almost every NGO contended that Lal Masjid and Jamiah Hafsa were built on illegal land and they continue to do so even after Supreme Court has declared both establishments to be legit and ordered government to rebuild them. You see, their lies have cost close to 1500 innocent school girls their lives. With their lies they aided and abetted a vicious butcher of a dictator who bombed school girls of his own country for crying out loud. Where was their moral outrage then; where were these friggin champions of human rightst then. It is simple...ooper se ishara nahin tha. Had such an incident happened in China or Tibet for example Herr Spelgerg would have boycotted olympics already. ooper se ishara...understand?
The other day I was having a casual talk with an American. We were discussing the movie called "I am legend". He was flabergasted and outraged at one particulart scene where Will Smith's dog gets infected by a virus and attacks him. Will had to choke that dog with his bare hands not only to protect himself but dog from misery as well. Now this guy was upset because the movie showed it so clearly that a dog got killed. He told me that back home his wife organized a protest to protest against showing cruelty to animals on screen. I asked the guy whether he had also noticed that in the same movie close to six billion people were also shown dead with that virus and only 1 million survived globally but turned into zombies. I asked him whether he was even remotely outraged at showing the death of so many people..."shouldn't your wife be arranging a protest for that too". I am pretty sure he would have cussed me "fukking Eyeracky" after we departed.
Now this is what I call the moral screw up of atheism. There is absolutely no problem in this religion if Krishna sleeps with Arjun in the same bed,( which is now legal in all states, and even christian moulvis (bishops) are openly doing it) but they have no shame pointing fingers at a man who marries a younger girl with no objection from society. This is the screw up I am talking about. The atheist values (if we can use this term for them) change as they think it suits them. Just mark my words. In next 10 years child pornography will be legalized and marriage with children will be norm because there is just tonns of money to be made. This is such a lucrative emerging market. This is the kind of social and sexual anarchy the NGOs are paving their way for in our society too.
But we must also understand that their agenda and propaganda is not only not innocent but it is in fact very vicious and it is getting deadlier everyday. For example almost every NGO contended that Lal Masjid and Jamiah Hafsa were built on illegal land and they continue to do so even after Supreme Court has declared both establishments to be legit and ordered government to rebuild them. You see, their lies have cost close to 1500 innocent school girls their lives. With their lies they aided and abetted a vicious butcher of a dictator who bombed school girls of his own country for crying out loud. Where was their moral outrage then; where were these friggin champions of human rightst then. It is simple...ooper se ishara nahin tha. Had such an incident happened in China or Tibet for example Herr Spelgerg would have boycotted olympics already. ooper se ishara...understand?
The other day I was having a casual talk with an American. We were discussing the movie called "I am legend". He was flabergasted and outraged at one particulart scene where Will Smith's dog gets infected by a virus and attacks him. Will had to choke that dog with his bare hands not only to protect himself but dog from misery as well. Now this guy was upset because the movie showed it so clearly that a dog got killed. He told me that back home his wife organized a protest to protest against showing cruelty to animals on screen. I asked the guy whether he had also noticed that in the same movie close to six billion people were also shown dead with that virus and only 1 million survived globally but turned into zombies. I asked him whether he was even remotely outraged at showing the death of so many people..."shouldn't your wife be arranging a protest for that too". I am pretty sure he would have cussed me "fukking Eyeracky" after we departed.
Now this is what I call the moral screw up of atheism. There is absolutely no problem in this religion if Krishna sleeps with Arjun in the same bed,( which is now legal in all states, and even christian moulvis (bishops) are openly doing it) but they have no shame pointing fingers at a man who marries a younger girl with no objection from society. This is the screw up I am talking about. The atheist values (if we can use this term for them) change as they think it suits them. Just mark my words. In next 10 years child pornography will be legalized and marriage with children will be norm because there is just tonns of money to be made. This is such a lucrative emerging market. This is the kind of social and sexual anarchy the NGOs are paving their way for in our society too.
#812 Posted by zeemax on April 27, 2008 12:21:32 am
Abey cockroach ki aulad why don't your twirl your cockroach whisker antennas and google some fresh stuff? What you're repeating for 10 years has been a joke now since about 9 years.
#811 Posted by arjun_5 on April 27, 2008 12:14:50 am
#809 Posted by Urstruly on April 26, 2008 11:46:45 pm
yes...having sex with a 9 year old child is rape...now you'll point me to the "scientific" research that shows old men at attracted to young girls(like you've already done once)....but sex with a 9 year old child is rape...no two ways about it...
yes...having sex with a 9 year old child is rape...now you'll point me to the "scientific" research that shows old men at attracted to young girls(like you've already done once)....but sex with a 9 year old child is rape...no two ways about it...
#810 Posted by arjun_5 on April 27, 2008 12:13:04 am
peeweemax(or should i call you zeeshan rafique): you realize that your boozing means you don't get into allah's strip club with the 72 virgins and 72 young boys...
#808 Posted by zeemax on April 26, 2008 11:45:39 pm
Hello cockroach. You still scurrying around? Wow!
#807 Posted by arjun_5 on April 26, 2008 11:43:14 pm
hey peeweemax:
there's good news for porkistan: the porki rupee is at an absolute low compared to the US $$...which means when you pakis sell your mothers for 20$, you'll get more rupees...and when muchy sells your jihadi brothers to club gitmo, you'll get more rupees.....and the millions of $ that paki women get themselves raped for...more rupees...WOO HOO!!
there's good news for porkistan: the porki rupee is at an absolute low compared to the US $$...which means when you pakis sell your mothers for 20$, you'll get more rupees...and when muchy sells your jihadi brothers to club gitmo, you'll get more rupees.....and the millions of $ that paki women get themselves raped for...more rupees...WOO HOO!!
#806 Posted by arjun_5 on April 26, 2008 11:40:49 pm
#805 Posted by treetop on April 26, 2008 11:39:25 pm
mo was a child rapist who married a 6 year old girl and raped her when she was 9...how hard is that to understand?
mo was a child rapist who married a 6 year old girl and raped her when she was 9...how hard is that to understand?
#805 Posted by treetop on April 26, 2008 11:39:25 pm
Re: # 803 arjun
when older men marry young girls its not neccesary that they would jump into bed with her right away,they wait untill the girl is ready.besides who knows that little girl was a lolita who knocked mo off his feet.after all mo was a human being.
when older men marry young girls its not neccesary that they would jump into bed with her right away,they wait untill the girl is ready.besides who knows that little girl was a lolita who knocked mo off his feet.after all mo was a human being.
#804 Posted by zeemax on April 26, 2008 11:26:52 pm
#802 Posted by Urstruly
... they were charged by police for adultery and fornication. This proved to be a blatant lie. According to the statistics issued by Supreme Court, in the past 25 years there could be hardly ten cases like that, and in all cases women were acquitted by the court of law. In other words the corruption of police was being portrayed as the corruption of religion.
I had explained this in some detail on a Beena Sarwar's article hoo'ing haa'ing over the amendment in Hadud laws. The truth is as follows:
When the Hadud laws were implemented in Zia's time, these were hurriedly done and the legislation was severely flawed. A major loophole was created where Rape was actually removed as an offense from the Penal Code and placed in Zina Ordinance with no mention of consensual or not. This gave the Police the legal power to arrest rape victims who complained till they could prove it was non-consensual - and only THEN it could be prosecuted under the Penal code, running parallel at the same time.
It was purely Police extortion at the thana level (though you correctly point out such cases were few and none was ever sentenced by courts) which used this loophole.
Now, what the amendment during the last Government did was another massive blunder. They barred arrest of women altogether for ANY offense unless sufficient evidence is presented by the complainant. That means no arrest of a woman for Police investigation. A woman can now commit murder and not be arrested. I know a fashionable woman in Lahore who defrauded and deprived people of millions (some from my own extended family) in a pyramid scheme, and no one can do anything.
Second thing the amendment did, is it in effect legalized prostitution - though few realize it. Whether that's good or bad or whether it was done wittingly or unwittingly, is another debate.
... they were charged by police for adultery and fornication. This proved to be a blatant lie. According to the statistics issued by Supreme Court, in the past 25 years there could be hardly ten cases like that, and in all cases women were acquitted by the court of law. In other words the corruption of police was being portrayed as the corruption of religion.
I had explained this in some detail on a Beena Sarwar's article hoo'ing haa'ing over the amendment in Hadud laws. The truth is as follows:
When the Hadud laws were implemented in Zia's time, these were hurriedly done and the legislation was severely flawed. A major loophole was created where Rape was actually removed as an offense from the Penal Code and placed in Zina Ordinance with no mention of consensual or not. This gave the Police the legal power to arrest rape victims who complained till they could prove it was non-consensual - and only THEN it could be prosecuted under the Penal code, running parallel at the same time.
It was purely Police extortion at the thana level (though you correctly point out such cases were few and none was ever sentenced by courts) which used this loophole.
Now, what the amendment during the last Government did was another massive blunder. They barred arrest of women altogether for ANY offense unless sufficient evidence is presented by the complainant. That means no arrest of a woman for Police investigation. A woman can now commit murder and not be arrested. I know a fashionable woman in Lahore who defrauded and deprived people of millions (some from my own extended family) in a pyramid scheme, and no one can do anything.
Second thing the amendment did, is it in effect legalized prostitution - though few realize it. Whether that's good or bad or whether it was done wittingly or unwittingly, is another debate.
#803 Posted by arjun_5 on April 26, 2008 11:23:04 pm
#802 Posted by Urstruly on April 26, 2008 10:40:11 pm
and that is that it has no moral values. It cannot have moral values because of the nature of this religion
Muslims worship a prophet who raped a 9 year old child and atheists have no values? ....mmmkay...
and that is that it has no moral values. It cannot have moral values because of the nature of this religion
Muslims worship a prophet who raped a 9 year old child and atheists have no values? ....mmmkay...
#802 Posted by Urstruly on April 26, 2008 10:40:11 pm
Re: # 797 Tahir
One must understand the nature of NGOs. The NGOS are a product of an emerging religion called atheism. Atheism has emerged in the past 100 years as a dominant religion. As a matter of fact almost every other religion, except Islam, has been defeated by atheism. These loser religions are now like dogs who have their tails between their legs. Not a day goes by when a religion loses its shirt, shalwar, or dhotti to atheism. There is no doubt that Atheism is extremely strong politically (secularism, democracy etc), economically (capitalism having defeated communism and total vacuum from competion), and militarily (NATO, US war machine etc). Its arsenal has media, propaganda machinery, manupaletive international laws, and UN in its pocket. But this Goliath has it Achillies heel too, and that is that it has no moral values. It cannot have moral values because of the nature of this religion - atheism. Currently, this religion is at loggerhead with Islam, because Islam may be weak on many fronts comparatively, but it has the power of uncompromising moral values.
Having said that, think of NGOs as the missionaries or preachers of this religion. Look, just as christians have missionaries and Muslims have preachers to prolysetize. . They are extremely busy prolysetizing. But not only they are prolysetizing but their real agenda is to take away the only strength that we have i.e. our moral values. Their modus operendi is simple, find a social ill in a society and make its connection with the religion, whether or not such connection exists or not. Then propaganda takes its course.
Let me elaborate with an example: There was an extremely powerful propaganda against the hadud laws. The propaganda was that there were thousands of women rotting in the jails because they filed complaint that they were raped. When they couldn't prove their case (which is a lie, because rape case are not civil cases, they are penal cases where govt prosecutes) they were charged by police for adultry and fornication. This proved to be a blatant lie. According to the statistics issued by Supreme Court, in the past 25 years there could be hardly ten cases like that, and in all cases women were acquited by the court of law. In other words the corruption of police was being portrayed as the corruption of religion.
One must always pray that God help us against our adversaries for they have no morals, no ethics, and no principles. We know that the final victory is ours because God has promised us to keep a group of people who will adhere themselves to His name and stay on the righteous path until the End of Days, but it demands effort from us. May God help us to bear the burden of that effort. Amen.
One must understand the nature of NGOs. The NGOS are a product of an emerging religion called atheism. Atheism has emerged in the past 100 years as a dominant religion. As a matter of fact almost every other religion, except Islam, has been defeated by atheism. These loser religions are now like dogs who have their tails between their legs. Not a day goes by when a religion loses its shirt, shalwar, or dhotti to atheism. There is no doubt that Atheism is extremely strong politically (secularism, democracy etc), economically (capitalism having defeated communism and total vacuum from competion), and militarily (NATO, US war machine etc). Its arsenal has media, propaganda machinery, manupaletive international laws, and UN in its pocket. But this Goliath has it Achillies heel too, and that is that it has no moral values. It cannot have moral values because of the nature of this religion - atheism. Currently, this religion is at loggerhead with Islam, because Islam may be weak on many fronts comparatively, but it has the power of uncompromising moral values.
Having said that, think of NGOs as the missionaries or preachers of this religion. Look, just as christians have missionaries and Muslims have preachers to prolysetize. . They are extremely busy prolysetizing. But not only they are prolysetizing but their real agenda is to take away the only strength that we have i.e. our moral values. Their modus operendi is simple, find a social ill in a society and make its connection with the religion, whether or not such connection exists or not. Then propaganda takes its course.
Let me elaborate with an example: There was an extremely powerful propaganda against the hadud laws. The propaganda was that there were thousands of women rotting in the jails because they filed complaint that they were raped. When they couldn't prove their case (which is a lie, because rape case are not civil cases, they are penal cases where govt prosecutes) they were charged by police for adultry and fornication. This proved to be a blatant lie. According to the statistics issued by Supreme Court, in the past 25 years there could be hardly ten cases like that, and in all cases women were acquited by the court of law. In other words the corruption of police was being portrayed as the corruption of religion.
One must always pray that God help us against our adversaries for they have no morals, no ethics, and no principles. We know that the final victory is ours because God has promised us to keep a group of people who will adhere themselves to His name and stay on the righteous path until the End of Days, but it demands effort from us. May God help us to bear the burden of that effort. Amen.
#801 Posted by zeemax on April 26, 2008 10:20:47 pm
#799 Posted by tahir,
Jamal Shah (ex-husband of actress Faryal Gauhar)
Ahem ... now she's the UN ambassador for women's rights or something.
FG's lover who's a great friend of mine once borrowed my apartment in Hong Kong while I was traveling for a rendezvous with her while she was still married to Jamal Shah. So she does qualify famously for the job!
Jamal Shah (ex-husband of actress Faryal Gauhar)
Ahem ... now she's the UN ambassador for women's rights or something.
FG's lover who's a great friend of mine once borrowed my apartment in Hong Kong while I was traveling for a rendezvous with her while she was still married to Jamal Shah. So she does qualify famously for the job!
#800 Posted by zeemax on April 26, 2008 10:16:53 pm
#790 Posted by NangaPir
So any hot girl was named Nari. The criteria was that when one holds his penis just at the orifice of a Nari it should feel like heat on back of hand in front of an oven.... menstrual blood in food ... it is full of estrogens which makes these guys pussyass and they stop fighting. ... if others like guru want to swirl on Nanga’s topa then doomsday is the limit but you have to wait for your turn.
Wow! You certainly pack a hard punch nanga Saheb! I almost feel sympathy for the poor recipients of your excellence!
So any hot girl was named Nari. The criteria was that when one holds his penis just at the orifice of a Nari it should feel like heat on back of hand in front of an oven.... menstrual blood in food ... it is full of estrogens which makes these guys pussyass and they stop fighting. ... if others like guru want to swirl on Nanga’s topa then doomsday is the limit but you have to wait for your turn.
Wow! You certainly pack a hard punch nanga Saheb! I almost feel sympathy for the poor recipients of your excellence!
#799 Posted by tahir on April 26, 2008 9:51:19 pm
When we speak of the persons behind these things, we have names like Mrs. Nagin Hayat (NOMAD art gallery owner), Jamal Shah (ex-husband of actress Faryal Gauhar)... and many more liberated others.