In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful

in the of hypocrisy


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now g'night, I am off to bed...

masadi: arjun can even say "paint lipstick on a pig" to insult muslims by using the word pig!! he is the english writing champion of india!!

tahmed writes "monkeyman has a point there..."

You can be sure tahmed will jump in to defend his masters whenever anyone says a word against them even though his masters consider him a monkey worthy only to polish their shoes. It is not that two wrongs don't make a right, the point is that whatever ZAB did or did not do, it had no bearing on how the white man oppresses the colored folk all over the globe he dominates and in the lany of hypocrisy, USA. Those 'honor killings'- lynchings are very much alive and well in that 'modern, evolved' society- throwing in the Bangladesh case was mere distraction, to which tahmed grabbed on to defend the 'honor' of his masters the white man and his sh**, thereby proving to us that his tribal mentality is alive and well

Guru, a piece of advice for you before I leave, nobody is reading your long copy pastes, so spare yourself the BS and if you want people to take you seriously try self composed 'reason' and not bigotry- that is why nobody takes your friend arjun seriously even though he writes better English than the whole lot of you bigots put together, and I mean even the Harvard Business School graduate wannabe Anil...

what!! masadi has tossed in the towel and gone to bed!!

fight over??!!

crowd boos and hisses and demands its money back. treetop throws coconut at masadi as he leaves!!

#774 monkeyman has a point there. two wrongs dont make a right.

point to monkeyman!! masadi bleeding from the nose, but determined to come back punching!!

crowd sits on edge of chair in anticipation of the Great Masadi Hope!!

g'night

Tahmed writes "the crowd goes wild.."

Glad to hear that you survived your illfated encounter

Arjun wrote "Your hero, ZA Bhutto, was responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of bengalis.."

In addition to my previous answer, I'd like to also deflate this persons numbers compared to the tens of millions of Africans that the white man has killed from the Atlantic slave trade todate in the US (discounting the tens of millions of the natives he killed). The point about the aquittal yesterday was not the comparison of massacres, it was the fact that even though the laws have changed the mindset of the white man has not, he butchers the colored folk with impunity- the wannabes of the white man in the Pakistan Army who converted the Bengal civil war into a racial war, were just that wannabes, imitating the racial extermination with impunity of the colored by the white man...

I guess concept of God is very different for Dharma/Dhamma/Jain/Sikh from that for Abrahmic religions.

We probably do not have common terminologies. But I wonder how we had common understanding in mofussil areas in 60s and 70s. What happened after? Is it the work of Petro Dollar? Has Bakistan turned into a mideastern country?

Most of the Dharmik ie Dharma/Dhamma/Jain/Sikh have certain practices common. Easiest is Naam Japa. The imambara I lived in for three days had some folks with rosaries. The faqir who came daily at 9 AM for rice also had a rosary. We never thought he was different from a sadhu and our parents bowed to him, at least my mother, and made us touch his feet Many days it was hard to feed him since we ourselves did not have enough for five of us. To cut short..Have you guy's lost your rosary and are now just banging the book? Are Saudi's or Wahabi demanding throwing rosary.

Since you guys are mostly Pakjabis you might understand this Sikhi English seeker. If you care this is Naama & little bit of Karma:
http://ekongkaar.blogspot.com/2008/02/pull-of-karma.html

For better understanding replace concept words such as Karma, Naam etc with equivalent Arabic words. Please also understand that their is individual Dharma for each one of us and when each one of us is doing that then Karma does not happen or good Karma is generated. Because of wrong understanding for a millennium Kshatriya Dharma was neglected. Thanks to Shivaji and Guru Govindsinghji we have now right understanding and follow Geeta. India should make Geeta compulsory reading for all. Bakis make mistake in understanding today's Dharmik people.

"In my meditation this morning, I had a chance to see something about karma. One could say that after experimenting with a lot of different types of spiritual practices over the years, I never really understood karma until this morning. Though God knows, in theory, all of the different practices, with different teachers and different perspectives that I used to explore were aimed at one thing: to clear my karma. But what does that mean, exactly? To clear one’s karma? When I was younger, karma was the Eastern equivalent to the good/bad sin/redemption polarity I had grown up with. Only karma gave you a lot of lifetimes to work it out. There was a sense of something being “right” and something being “wrong.” And the consequences of doing the wrong thing or the benefits of doing the right thing – that was karma. In my mind’s eye, those definitions of “right” and “wrong” were written on a wall somewhere in heaven. If I could just memorize the list and put as many stars in the “right” column as possible, then God would love me and I would be protected and taken care of somehow. What I saw in my meditation this morning was very different but deeply moving. Yogi Bhajan talks about the “you within you.” And the more I meditate on Gurbani and try my inadequate best to translate into English, I’ve found that “Naam” is really the experience of the You within you. The Divine Identity that lives within the heart. The Soul-Being that has come and gone through so many cycles of birth and death. And that the Naam and the mind are very different experiences within oneself. The mind has a pull. It pulls the being this way and that way – with its thoughts and desires, dreams and hopes, fears and fantasies. But the mind is not who we are. It’s a temporary identity gives to us in time and space. For this lifetime, for whatever brief purpose the Inner Being has come to the earth for. But that Inner Being, that Divine Identity, that Naam, that You within you – has its own purpose. Its own reality and destination. And karma isn’t when you break a rule of what’s right and wrong written in some seventh heaven somewhere. Karma is inside of us, in the here and now. It’s a simple issue. The breath of life has been given to each of us as a gift. With this breath – are we delivering what the Inner Being has comes here to experience? Or not? Gurbani talks about how the hand of the One guides everything. So how can we call anyone good or bad? When we get caught up in the judgements we might have with each other, we loose sight of our own inner judgment. It doesn’t matter what another person does. We have no control over each other, really. We can attempt to manipulate and influence. Cajole or threaten. But there’s no guarantee it’s going to work. Every human being is absolutely sovereign ultimately. And it’s a waste of breath to judge or control – though God knows it’s a very powerful habit that we can sometimes get into with each other. But with every breath, through a meditative mind cultivated by the Guru’s words, we can judge ourselves. Am I living this moment in alignment with my spiritual Identity? Am I acting in this moment in a way that reflects the reality of my own dignity and Divinity? Am I applying the gifts of my body and the talents of my mind to deliver the journey that my soul took birth to take? Am I remembering that Deathless Light within myself? Or am I forgetting? This is karma from what I have seen and experienced today. Those breaths, those moments, when we forget our Inner Divinity, our Inner Being and Light. And we let the pull of desire take us away from doing those things that the Spirit came here for. It’s hard because as a child, I never learned that God lives in me. Much less that the purpose of human life was to experience that. I was taught a lot of other nonsense that has never served me. It just created a lot of confusion. But when through the Guru’s teachings, we can find and touch the Naam within us – and we can know – hey – this is who I really am – then karma is simply the account we keep inside of us of when we have lived according to our Inner Divinity, or when we have betrayed ourselves -when we have betrayed our own Inner Truth. And in the name of balancing that account, we come back again and again. I don’t have any conclusions to offer here. But what I am grateful for is to see today that this whole karma business – this whole business of coming and going – it’s between Me and me. Its between the Divine Identity that has existed since beginingless time and will continue unto Infinity – and the temporary “me” – this body, this mind that definitely had a beginning and will definitely have an end. The karma is whether or not I am capable of keeping my agreements with my Innermost Self – or whether I turn my back on that and get lost in the games of Maya. Its OK – karma happens. But I am grateful to see that its contained within me, and to know that the Guru promises that by meditating on Gurbani the balance between the mind and the Naam can happen. Everything can be put back into proper balance. And in that way, the karmas of lifetimes can fall away and the cycle of betraying my own Self can end. May you be blessed to find the Light of the Divine within you, and to share that Light wherever you go. Happy Valentines’ Day All Love in the Divine,Ek Ong Kaar Kaur
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please man, do the honours!

thanks in advance

#787 masadizilla to guruthra: "any other questions fool?"

point to masadi!!! the crowd goes wild!!! phones are ringing around the world!!! masadizilla has knocked out guruthra with one punch!!

masadi: concentrate on the arena. dont talk to the spectators!!

Tahmed writes "treetop #755 It is indeed a nauseating spectacle "

Nothing can be more nauseating than you and Helga getting it on....

Guru writes "Suppose a Muslim girl loves a non Muslim boy and would like to marry her. Tell me how this union will happen and proceed...."

Here is how it will proceed, the Muslim girl will tell her parents that the boy converted to Islam and reads the Quran and is learning with great enthusiasm about it, to pacify them and take care of other non-religion related biases, the non Muslim boy will seek the help of his mother against his father and try to convince them that though the girl is Muslim in name she "really does not believe", so when both sides are pacified, the girl and boy will marry, she will remain the kind of Muslim she was before and he will remain the kind of non-Muslim he was before....exogamy is disliked by most groups especially minority groups in a majority because it will wipe out their identity if they were to allow it openly, in this class, racial status in a society etc are defacto much more powerful filters than religion per se.....any other questions fool?