In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful

zeemax: when writing garbage about hamidm's family members, you say nothing about them and plenty about your own family background.

Re: # 45

tahmed,

.... since you bring it up - have you seen what zardari is trying to do to the droopy eyed cj ..... do you ever wonder why mushy is still in the army house, why he still seems to be calling the shots and why that idiot qayoom is still the attorney general ? ........ sheikh rashid was on tv the other day and he feels that the people of pindi will soon get tired of hearing excuses from the new set of clowns and elect him again in less than a year ! ....... i wouldn't be surprised or displeased ...... at least he is entertaining

.......... but enough of that ... back to the horror of honor killing - you should stop siding with zeemax in defending the barbaric practices of a bedouin prophet (pbuh and his camel) .... i think the sooner we muslims admit our faults, the sooner we can begin on working on a cure ..... it will take a couple of generations to become somewhat civlized but we have to start now .........

Re: # 47[I used the language because it is the appropriate one for these people who have little or no knowledge into this particular matter or other similar ones, but think they can conveniently use it to knock Islam over the head with these, and they do!]

Speaking for myself, when did I use 'bad language' about your family or even yourself? Problem is you want 'the ghalba' position so the only person with the right to verbally abuse others is none other that you and your cronies. I have tolerated that so far but be prepared to receive as much as you dish out from now on. Same goes for your dogs HP and Tahir.

Re: # 49

tahmed,

thanks for defending my family honor ! ..... i would really appreciate it if you behead zeemax or at least give him fifty lashes - i demand justice!

hamidm #50 i think zardari doesnt understand the mood in Pakistan - if the judges are restored, that will be no thanks to him and his open insults to the same judges without whose courage and principled stand he and bb would still be in exile.

Re: # 51

cheema sahib,

.... what did hp do to deserve your wrath ? ......... he is one of the good guys ..... are you sure you are not confusing him with gt ?

#52 hamidm: your family's honor does not need any defense. i was merely pointing out the obvious to zeemax.

Re: # 54; hamidm sahib

I know who I am talking about but thaks for asking.

Cheers...work to do

Re: # 55

tahmed mian,

..... you and i can kid about this stuff but these guys take this shit seriously ...... zeemax is all pissed off because ms azra called abraham a schizophrenic idiot and accused mary of sleeping around (which seems to a plausible theory) ...... i bet you, he is ready to kill someone right now and is probably beating the women in his family out of sheer frustration ....... i just can't understand anyone getting upset about silly things like this ....oh well ..

#47 Posted by zeemax on April 21, 2008 5:38:44 pm


Islam sanctions capital punishments for murtids and blasphemers


Mohammad was a child rapist and allah was a goat..

there jihadi rodent..I've blasphemed...now what're you going to do about it? huff and puff and hit the bottle? or take a crack at me with your "austrian glock rifle with laser locking scope"(cough cough)...

#32 Posted by dharma on April 21, 2008 4:33:34 pm

now all you have to do is mention the killings in bangladesh and you'll be 3 out of 3...and prophet tahmed's head with explode with a bout of self-righteousness..

Zee sahib,

(what does religion have to do with some guy killing his sister for illicit relationship with the neighbor's boy or something? That's cultural and tribal and has something to do with family honour in varying degrees in many rural societies, and NOT religion's honour. )

Quite correct. And incidentally it happens in India too especially Northern India, mainly in case of inter-caste marriages in rural areas. It is tribal and cultural, although it is given religious sanction to dignify it.

Regards

I find it quite interesting how Hindus and Muslims on this board are fighting over India and Pakistan. My grandparents are from India, parents born in Bangladesh, I was born in Pakistan and my kids will probably be born in Canada. There are more similarities than differences if one is interested in finding some common grounds. Unfortunately, the Brits did us much harm by their divide and rule policy but one hopes that we will not carry those policies forward in the 21st century and we will try to see the global nature of the world today. The fact is that we are all human beings, we share the same values, concerns and the desire for a life of dignity.

Be it bride burning or honor killing, there is nothing honorable about it and it happens in our part of the world with impunity. I don't know the laws against these crimes in India but I know that the situation in Pakistan is not promising at all. I don't see why talking about it has to result in name calling and fighting among the Indians and Pakistanis here.

Re: # 60; majumdar sahib

I don't know about India but can you explain the prevelance of these practices in other (non-Indic) Islamic countries. This includes many in the middle-east, including Iraq and Syria. I am sure someone is going to jump in and 'refute' this very shortly!

Problem is that this practice has had the 'safeguard' in religious terms within Pakistani law. It is the same 'crime of passion' theory that originally existed during the times of the Raj.

btw; if a woman is raped, where the hell is she supposed to find four witnesses to prove/disprove her case? especially in a deeply patriarchial society such as Pakistan.

Looks like the 'magic' has blinded you into thinking like a true 'momin' as well! There goes another Eklavya!

Re: # 61; Azra

I wouldn't worry too much about it if I were you. I used to take it seriously before but now it is just entertainment!


Cheers

Cheema sahib,

(but can you explain the prevelance of these practices in other (non-Indic) Islamic countries. This includes many in the middle-east, including Iraq and Syria.)

Simple. Most of Middle East too consist of tribal/semi-tribal societies.

(Looks like the 'magic' has blinded you into thinking like a true 'momin' as well!)

Till I last checked I was very much a kaffir. I am not trying to think like a momin, just trying to think like a rational person.

(There goes another Eklavya!)

Surely it is a great compliment to be compared to someone like Kaal bhai. Dunno whether I deserve it.

Regards