In the Name of Allah, the Most Merciful

#61 see my post #48 below which I think applies to you as well since you are obviously new to chowk as well.

Re: # 64; majumdar bhai
[Till I last checked I was very much a kaffir. I am not trying to think like a momin, just trying to think like a rational person.]

you know I was being cheeky! I respect both you and Kaal; I only hope he can learn some simple ways to communicate with the mortals!

I am glad to be reassured (above) nevertheless; praise be to the 'moon-god', the holy prophet (pbuh) and his camel for that!

May be I could throw in MAJ(pbuh) as well?!

Cheers

Azra ji,

There is no specific law against honour killings. But an honour killing would be treated as a normal murder and the accused dealt with accordingly. In practise of course, if the perpetrator is a wealthy and influential person he can get away with it (as with other kinds of murders). Only thing that be can be said in defence of the state is that it certainly does not condone honour killings on the grounds of "honour".

Regards

#63 it is not merely entertainment, it is educational entertainment. chowk is a useful reminder that Jinnah did not feel the need to create Pakistan for nothing - there is such a thing as hindu rage against 1000 years of slavery. there is such a thing as communalism. and it is more widespread in india among hindus than islamic terrorists in pakistan.

pakistanis are fortunate in having been insulted from this over the past 60 years, and it is only now through the internet that this becomes clear.

so, by all means reach out to indians who dont suffer from this disease. but it does exist, as is clear on the internet.

Re: # 65; tahmed sahib

can you cut this "navaan ayeaan ai soniaan" business please!

Cheers

#69 isnt it true?

Re: # 68; tahmed sahib
[pakistanis are fortunate in having been insulted from this over the past 60 years, and it is only now through the internet that this becomes clear.]

another request; can you also cut back on the self-riteousness as well please!

the guilt does not exclusively lie on one side here; let's not talk like idiots but realists. In general terms, be it here on the world at large, Pakis can (and do) give as much as take.

Cheers

Re: # 71

correction:
be it here on the world at large

should be ....here OR the world...

Cheema sahib,

(I only hope he can learn some simple ways to communicate with the mortals!)

Or maybe we could upgrade ourselves so that we can communicate with him.

(praise be to the 'moon-god', the holy prophet (pbuh) and his camel for that!)

I don't worship either of the three but I respect your right to do so!

(May be I could throw in MAJ(pbuh) as well?!)

That will be most gratifying to me.

Regards

#71 cheema sahib: the fact that i have a different view than you does not automatically mean i am an idiot.

the fact that i have spent 10 years on chowk may mean i am an idiot, of course. but i have learnt a few things along the way.

Re: # 74; tahmed sahib

yet another request; avoid 'self-pity' please as it doesn't become you; can also be counter-productive

of course you are not an idiot...there..there....now stop sulking

Re: # 73; majumdar bhai
"Or maybe we could upgrade ourselves so that we can communicate with him."

are you saying I need to invest in a pair of stiltz?

"that would be most gratifying.."

we aim to please bhai sahib, although the level of individual 'gratification' may vary from person to person

Cheers

#75 cheema sahib: where exactly do you detect the self-pity? you called me an idiot because you disagreed, and i pointed out your presumption in saying that.

Azra, glad to see another thought-provoking piece from you – written (as usual) with a good deal of passion! Keep up the good work and do not lose hope in the women of Pakistan.

The world at large sees the chaadar for what it is – a modern-day symbol of woman’s subservience and servitude to man. I have no doubt that heavily as it hangs, it will soon come off – like the chaadar of communism lifted virtually overnight – this yoke of slavery will go, too!

There is no honor in slavery! Those who look away from that simple fact are part of the problem.

Re: # 77; tahmed;

oye buzurgo! would it help if I apologise profusely for something I said inadvertantly?

cheema: anyway, it is late here and i need to finish something and go to bed. you are welcome to your views - just dont think that anyone who disagrees with them is a fool.