Where Billions Vanish

Re: # 136
I have no disagreement to what you have said in your post # 19 and neither have I cited this post anywhere in my posts to show a disagreement. Please indicate my post # where I have made a citation to your post # 19.

Viewer writes "O fool, so you are saying that it is OK that decision makers and bullies of this ill-fated country should keep on dumping the impoverished Physics departments with any equipment which they think is good "

Long before this idiot Viewer made his first post on this thread by copying my post # 19, in which I wrote:

#19 Posted by masadi on April 22, 2008 12:50:53 am
There are a million ways of legitimizing theft by the peons of the West when they get crumbs from their masters who dumb their useless, outdated, bogus industrial surplus that will do not even perform the function it was originally designed to perform, like those F-16s, the second hand ones with no air defense penetration capability and big (radar)signatures on them saying destroy us before we get a chance to fly- costing at the bare minimum $40 million a piece- you can bet your assets that the generals who approve such contracts are on the payroll of Lockheed Martin as they suck the blood of the Pakistani people. When I was teaching at the govt university the dept head had formed a great lucrative partnership with an HEC professor in order to get research grants in the millions after writing two page research proposals in bad english. Then he was dumping 4 classes on me of 60 students each, everyday and paying me Rs 25000 a month/ $390 a month, all included (after his initial offer of Rs 10,000 a month/month, $158, as salary while fleecing the people of millions- this is how they destroy this nation, and the money flows out to their white masters for such useless equipment and research that has not changed one life.
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Now after reading this and perverting my comments to pursue his narrow agenda of "bitching for no purpose but axe grinding", viewer/PH tries to save face, proving himself to be a certified idiot who cannot understand simple prose. And for your kind information, nobody threw me out of the US, I have been back since I returned and go there at will whenever I choose...

Re: # 134
pls read first the article "Where Billions Vanish" and the 133 comments that have been made. You will find the answer. Don't waste my time.

What exactly is the point that you are conveying?

1.That Masadi sahib favours the import of useless equipment.

Or

2. That he is opposed to import of equipment which is necessary in your opinion.

Regards

Re: # 132
Pls read my message again.

Viewer,

Why do you consider life-saving machines superfluous???

And he has a point as to the rationale of buying scientific equipment which will not be used and khao jang as they say.

Regards

Re: # 130
"even $1 spent extra than is needed by a drowning nation is a $1 misspent"

I have no disagreement with is fragment, but it does not mean that I approve other fragments, or that I approve all.

Pls refer to:

"What is the goddamned use of physics departments and PH when neither students nor professors can use such equipment to do research?"

Here "such equipment" means "the equipment which is dumped without prior feasibility reports and studies done in the favour of its purchase by the experts in the same country who are expected to use the equipment in future" and not just any "superfluous equipment".

If this Maseedi guy is against the purchase of (any) superfluous equipment then tomorrow all hospitals should be banned from buying their life-saving machines as they are after all superfluous equipments.

Viewer,

Pls read his next sentence : "even $1 spent extra than is needed by a drowning nation is a $1 misspent"

This suggests that Masadi sahib disapproves of purchase of superfluous equipment.

Regards

Re: # 128
"I am of the impression that Masadi sahib was saying just the opposite of what you are imputing to him."

I disagee completely. Pls refer to # 122 again.

His "such equipment" is which I have referred to as "any equipment which bullies think is good for a Physics deptt for dumping purpose"

Viewer,

Re: 127

(so you are saying that it is OK that decision makers and bullies of this ill-fated country should keep on dumping the impoverished Physics departments with any equipment )

I am of the impression that Masadi sahib was saying just the opposite of what you are imputing to him.

(By the way, why the Chowk staff has not yet burnt your “books” and have not yet completely banned you.)

Why shud Masadi sahib be banned. He has as much a right to express his opinion on chowk as we have and maybe he is right and we are wrong.

There is no justification for banning Masadi sahib (or for that matter horsewhipping Tahmed sahib.)

Regards

Re: # 122
"What is the goddamned use of physics departments and PH when neither students nor professors can use such equipment to do research?"

O fool, so you are saying that it is OK that decision makers and bullies of this ill-fated country should keep on dumping the impoverished Physics departments with any equipment which they think is good (possibly for their own bank accounts) and then they start wondering why the students and professor are not able to use that for “research”.

Have these bullies made any prior surveys, studies, or have consulted those students or professors whom are likely to use the equipment?

I am shocked that you are absolutely unable to understand this much reason and claim to have written "books". I think the US did a right thing when they kicked you out from there and dumped you on us. Please refer to the nearest psychiatrist ward.

By the way, why the Chowk staff has not yet burnt your “books” and have not yet completely banned you.

Re: # 122

"the purpose of axe grinding against his colleagues"

So this Maseedi idiot of the highest imaginable order thinks (if he has such capability, which I really doubt he has) that he is not "axe grinding" when he submits his nonsense (mostly consisting of abuse) on this website.

I would request the Chowk staff to please ban this maniac and fool from any interaction on this website.

#122 Posted by masadi on April 29, 2008 5:36:01 am

you think people should stop spending money on science education and spend the money on your specialty, social sciences?

what a loser...

Re: # 121

nkg writes: If the instrument is installed, somehow students will use it ...

Of course this will be case and no one doubts that. If the instrument had come free of cost I will also think the same way.

When you have paid millions from public money you cannot simply say that it will somehow find some use.

The question being raised is that was there a more sensible way to buy a more sensible equipment. A sensible way that does not involve commissions given to the middle men or to the top men. A sensible way that first considers what our students need and whether some reseachers are going to benefit from the equipment.

It seems we are using public money to buy equipment first and then wonder what to do with it.

Re: # 122

maseedi writes: The bigger question you should be asking ...

So a lunatic issues an advice which questions are to be asked. Get lost ...

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