Pervez Hoodbhoy April 21, 2008
#82 Posted by peonofthewest on April 24, 2008 10:58:02 pm
Re: # 80
Now that the mythology of the peons of the West has been busted yet once again)
what have i done now saab?
i havenot written any mythologies saab, it is all in your head saab. you should get treatment saab
and Re # 81
later....much later......)
thank you Allah Mian saab
Now that the mythology of the peons of the West has been busted yet once again)
what have i done now saab?
i havenot written any mythologies saab, it is all in your head saab. you should get treatment saab
and Re # 81
later....much later......)
thank you Allah Mian saab
#83 Posted by viewer on April 24, 2008 11:48:22 pm
Re: # 76
Mubasher,
Some evidence is indeed gathering up in favour of this allegation:
a) Atta ur Rehman wrote a small booklet on NMR in which he reproduced pages from other books especially of rotating and stationary frames/co-ordinates math. Chemical spectras and their resonance frequencies were just cut and paste. And he is prosecuting people for pliargism (as NangaPir has written)
b) Above provides support for further allegation that having written 60 books and hundreds of research articles cannot be done in real life and with honesty without fair amount of pliargism and exploitation of your subordinates
Mubasher,
Some evidence is indeed gathering up in favour of this allegation:
a) Atta ur Rehman wrote a small booklet on NMR in which he reproduced pages from other books especially of rotating and stationary frames/co-ordinates math. Chemical spectras and their resonance frequencies were just cut and paste. And he is prosecuting people for pliargism (as NangaPir has written)
b) Above provides support for further allegation that having written 60 books and hundreds of research articles cannot be done in real life and with honesty without fair amount of pliargism and exploitation of your subordinates
#84 Posted by masadi on April 25, 2008 4:17:49 am
#76 PH writes "small booklet on NMR in which he reproduced..."
This is allegation and claim only based on your word, a hole. Reproduce for us i) The alleged copied pages ii) The place where they have been copied for and iii) prove that ii predates i and then prove that the author has not referenced them.
2. 60 books (no mention of length of books is done) is well within the capacity of an average human being to produce in his life time.
The fact is that these types of "evidence" where PH (viewer) has an axed to grind against his colleagues just doesn't hold water. Now Ata ur Rahman might have have plaigirized stuff but PH (viewer) has no clue about it, the kind of slip shod manner in which he has presented his "evidence" is similar to how PH writes his BS articles.
This is allegation and claim only based on your word, a hole. Reproduce for us i) The alleged copied pages ii) The place where they have been copied for and iii) prove that ii predates i and then prove that the author has not referenced them.
2. 60 books (no mention of length of books is done) is well within the capacity of an average human being to produce in his life time.
The fact is that these types of "evidence" where PH (viewer) has an axed to grind against his colleagues just doesn't hold water. Now Ata ur Rahman might have have plaigirized stuff but PH (viewer) has no clue about it, the kind of slip shod manner in which he has presented his "evidence" is similar to how PH writes his BS articles.
#86 Posted by masadi on April 25, 2008 4:31:22 am
In #84 READ "This is allegation and claim only based on your word, a hole. Reproduce for us i) The alleged copied pages ii) The place where they have been copied for and iii) prove that ii predates i and then prove that the author has not referenced them"
as
This is an allegation and claim only based on your word, a hole. Reproduce for us i) The alleged copied pages ii) The place where they have been copied from and iii) prove that ii predates i and then prove that the author has not referenced ii
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p.s and keep reading this like tasbih "PH is a certified idiot"
as
This is an allegation and claim only based on your word, a hole. Reproduce for us i) The alleged copied pages ii) The place where they have been copied from and iii) prove that ii predates i and then prove that the author has not referenced ii
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p.s and keep reading this like tasbih "PH is a certified idiot"
#87 Posted by viewer on April 25, 2008 4:55:19 am
Re: # 76
Mubasher writes:
"Pakistanis consider him (Atta ur Rehman) their hero in science"
Re:
Here comes the “Science Hero” as if the “Atomic Hero” and the “Missile Hero” were not enough for this nation.
This Atomic Hero sells hard-earned high level technological secrets and knowledge to fill his own pocket with Dollars. Each ordinary employee of this Atomic Hero’s “Bomb Factory” are thoroughly checked each afternoon for the possibly finding a floppy in his side pocket(s), while this "Hero", also for many years known to be the “Project Director”, goes ahead to sell truck-full of technical and sensitive equipment to fill his personal bank account(s), possibly in Swiss bank(s) or bank(s) in Dubai.
Here comes the “Missile Hero” who continues to rob the government every year of the cash which is most direly needed by poor, starving, uneducated Pakistanis for basic amenities like food, drinking water, basic schooling for children, and other basic necessities of their meager existence. This “Hero” gives this ill-fated nation Missiles in return, so that they can easily kill in millions equally-poor and starving citizens of the neighboring country. This Hero appoints his son, and sons of his “friends”, at much younger age, to the key positions of being the “Director” of one of the “Divisions” under him.
Now, here comes the “Science Hero” who is given access to big money by a Dictator. He tries to buy researchers and their research papers by big offers of money. He puts in place purely discriminatory practices of “Foreign Faculty Hiring Program” and the program of “Appointment of PhD Scholars Returning from Abroad”. A PhD scholar coming from abroad is given higher and un-pretentious priority over a scholar coming from a local university, both in terms of his appointment and his salary. After all, it is very simple and easy to adapt such a policy though it may be at the cost of ruining whatever meager infrastructure this ill-fated nation has had for PhD training. Many renowned researchers leave the country in protest against the irrational policies of this “Science Hero”. This, of course, includes Prof. Bokhari of UET, Lahore, who was the only Pakistani in the ISI list of highly cited researchers.
Not to mention, of course, our “Political Hero” who broke Pakistan into two.
Mubasher writes:
"Pakistanis consider him (Atta ur Rehman) their hero in science"
Re:
Here comes the “Science Hero” as if the “Atomic Hero” and the “Missile Hero” were not enough for this nation.
This Atomic Hero sells hard-earned high level technological secrets and knowledge to fill his own pocket with Dollars. Each ordinary employee of this Atomic Hero’s “Bomb Factory” are thoroughly checked each afternoon for the possibly finding a floppy in his side pocket(s), while this "Hero", also for many years known to be the “Project Director”, goes ahead to sell truck-full of technical and sensitive equipment to fill his personal bank account(s), possibly in Swiss bank(s) or bank(s) in Dubai.
Here comes the “Missile Hero” who continues to rob the government every year of the cash which is most direly needed by poor, starving, uneducated Pakistanis for basic amenities like food, drinking water, basic schooling for children, and other basic necessities of their meager existence. This “Hero” gives this ill-fated nation Missiles in return, so that they can easily kill in millions equally-poor and starving citizens of the neighboring country. This Hero appoints his son, and sons of his “friends”, at much younger age, to the key positions of being the “Director” of one of the “Divisions” under him.
Now, here comes the “Science Hero” who is given access to big money by a Dictator. He tries to buy researchers and their research papers by big offers of money. He puts in place purely discriminatory practices of “Foreign Faculty Hiring Program” and the program of “Appointment of PhD Scholars Returning from Abroad”. A PhD scholar coming from abroad is given higher and un-pretentious priority over a scholar coming from a local university, both in terms of his appointment and his salary. After all, it is very simple and easy to adapt such a policy though it may be at the cost of ruining whatever meager infrastructure this ill-fated nation has had for PhD training. Many renowned researchers leave the country in protest against the irrational policies of this “Science Hero”. This, of course, includes Prof. Bokhari of UET, Lahore, who was the only Pakistani in the ISI list of highly cited researchers.
Not to mention, of course, our “Political Hero” who broke Pakistan into two.
#88 Posted by masadi on April 25, 2008 6:29:11 am
PH/Viewer writes "Not to mention, of course, our “Political Hero” who broke Pakistan into two. "
The "political hero" had nothing to do with the breaking up of Pakistan, the colonials who did the partition, and the Pakistan military who acted as catalyst by their methodology for this foregone conclusion are related to the "breakup". The Political Hero had everything to do with lifting up the masses of this country and incorporating them into the structure of power thereby putting to an end the colonial/Pak Army shenanigans regarding "Islam Khatray mein hai". What the "Atomic Hero" did was with full knowledge both of the Pak Army as well as the CIA, just because they decided to make him the fall guy does not mean he was alone in the entire affair of proliferation which is greatly PROMOTED by the Americans.
Pervez Hoodbhoy/Viewer you are an ignorant a-hole with personal axes to grind, it is no secret that you worship the white man and his ways, ways that moreso than any director or "hero" are ensuring that this nation remains underdeveloped; so best go F yourself and leave this nation and its problem solving to those who have half a clue about what's going on.
P.S You are even more ignorant as an interactor compared to an article writer- Thank you for reaffirming this moronic side of yours. People who read your interview with Noam Chomsky-who btw recognized how ignorant you were by your questions regarding science that showed a total ignorance of science and were a disgrace to this country, knre that as far as interacting goes you do so at the typical level of a fifth grader, your articles are written at the high school grade, that also of a mediocre student....
The "political hero" had nothing to do with the breaking up of Pakistan, the colonials who did the partition, and the Pakistan military who acted as catalyst by their methodology for this foregone conclusion are related to the "breakup". The Political Hero had everything to do with lifting up the masses of this country and incorporating them into the structure of power thereby putting to an end the colonial/Pak Army shenanigans regarding "Islam Khatray mein hai". What the "Atomic Hero" did was with full knowledge both of the Pak Army as well as the CIA, just because they decided to make him the fall guy does not mean he was alone in the entire affair of proliferation which is greatly PROMOTED by the Americans.
Pervez Hoodbhoy/Viewer you are an ignorant a-hole with personal axes to grind, it is no secret that you worship the white man and his ways, ways that moreso than any director or "hero" are ensuring that this nation remains underdeveloped; so best go F yourself and leave this nation and its problem solving to those who have half a clue about what's going on.
P.S You are even more ignorant as an interactor compared to an article writer- Thank you for reaffirming this moronic side of yours. People who read your interview with Noam Chomsky-who btw recognized how ignorant you were by your questions regarding science that showed a total ignorance of science and were a disgrace to this country, knre that as far as interacting goes you do so at the typical level of a fifth grader, your articles are written at the high school grade, that also of a mediocre student....
#89 Posted by masadi on April 25, 2008 6:31:14 am
In #88 read "knre that as far as interacting goes" as
know that as far as interacting goes
know that as far as interacting goes
#90 Posted by viewer on April 25, 2008 9:35:07 pm
Re: # 88
Hi MASEEDI,
The only thing I would like to say is that LET THE DOGS BARK, WHO CARES?
Hi MASEEDI,
The only thing I would like to say is that LET THE DOGS BARK, WHO CARES?
#91 Posted by pavocavalry on April 25, 2008 11:01:16 pm
good article . atta needs to be hanged upside down . what a clown this atta and all those mediocres.hoodhbhoy is right but in pakistan if a man speaks the truth he is hit by stones everywhere , what a hopeless country occupied by army and other thugs.
#92 Posted by masadi on April 26, 2008 12:44:55 am
PH/Viewer writes "The only thing I would like to say is that LET THE DOGS BARK, WHO CARES? "
You care that is why you wrote this sh** The lying sob that you are. So pavo decides to join the PH bandwagon. Have you read what this fool writes? Compare his BS to my article on "Overcoming the Colonial Subordination Model of Education"- unless you change the structure pumping money at the top wont change anything, Ata ur Rahman and the others are small fish, you lose the bigger picture when you pick on personalities like PH/Viewer does because he has personal axes to grind, it does not fix anything, but how would PH/Viewer know this when the best he can manage is write articles at the High School level and that also of a mediocre stundent. The only barking, meaningless, useless barking is by PH, people recognize him for his "scorned wife so I want to cry a river " methodology. Go F yourself, you have never amounted to anything on the social-intellectual scene and never will...a laughing stock that is what you become whenever you open your goddamned mouth...
You care that is why you wrote this sh** The lying sob that you are. So pavo decides to join the PH bandwagon. Have you read what this fool writes? Compare his BS to my article on "Overcoming the Colonial Subordination Model of Education"- unless you change the structure pumping money at the top wont change anything, Ata ur Rahman and the others are small fish, you lose the bigger picture when you pick on personalities like PH/Viewer does because he has personal axes to grind, it does not fix anything, but how would PH/Viewer know this when the best he can manage is write articles at the High School level and that also of a mediocre stundent. The only barking, meaningless, useless barking is by PH, people recognize him for his "scorned wife so I want to cry a river " methodology. Go F yourself, you have never amounted to anything on the social-intellectual scene and never will...a laughing stock that is what you become whenever you open your goddamned mouth...
#93 Posted by viewer on April 26, 2008 7:21:28 pm
Re: # 92
This the real tragedy of this nation. No one can even imagine a situation of having independent views and judgements. Everyone is assumed to follow some pir, jagga, dictator etc . O Maseedi, I have nothing to do with PH and even disagree with some of his views. Most of what he writes, however, is definitely sensible to me. By the way "Overcoming the Colonial Subordination Model of Education" is a cut-paste-type piece of writing meant for school children. Keep on wasting your life.
This the real tragedy of this nation. No one can even imagine a situation of having independent views and judgements. Everyone is assumed to follow some pir, jagga, dictator etc . O Maseedi, I have nothing to do with PH and even disagree with some of his views. Most of what he writes, however, is definitely sensible to me. By the way "Overcoming the Colonial Subordination Model of Education" is a cut-paste-type piece of writing meant for school children. Keep on wasting your life.
#94 Posted by US-elite on April 26, 2008 8:08:57 pm
Re: # 93
Mr viewer sir,
I wouldn't worry too much about this paranoid schizophrenic.
Regards
The US Elite
Mr viewer sir,
I wouldn't worry too much about this paranoid schizophrenic.
Regards
The US Elite
#96 Posted by masadi on April 26, 2008 11:46:32 pm
viewer writes "By the way "Overcoming the Colonial Subordination Model of Education" is a cut-paste-type piece of writing meant for school children.."
A-hole I spent 8 hours composing that from scratch and you make the baseless allegation that its a "cut and paste", just like you were making baseless allegations against ata ur rahman. Show me where its cut and pasted from it that is indeed what it is I, I challenge you. Lying sob.
A-hole I spent 8 hours composing that from scratch and you make the baseless allegation that its a "cut and paste", just like you were making baseless allegations against ata ur rahman. Show me where its cut and pasted from it that is indeed what it is I, I challenge you. Lying sob.
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