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Dumbing Down Parliament....Again!

Hammad Siddiqi April 22, 2008

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#1 Posted by Delirium on April 28, 2008 10:16:54 am
Makes absolute sense. The bitter fact that 97 % of our society is under graduate does not provide enough justification to wave off any pre qualification criteria as far as the membership of the most prestigious legislative bodies of the country are concerned. It sounds ironic and ridiculous considering we need to have prerequisite qualification to hold any other position in the government and even private sector
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#2 Posted by allah_mian on April 28, 2008 10:40:41 am
Let me start with a hypothetical criterion of B.A. degree for voters as well. I bet that Jamaat-e-Islami is gonna win more than 30 percent of the contests in Pakistan. So much for the necessity of Bacheolar degree for elected representatives!!!

In parliamentary system, most elected parlimentarians are just numbers - to vote on the party lines; the agenda is set by the kitchen cabinets, inner circles and higher party office holders.
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#3 Posted by Delirium on April 28, 2008 10:53:38 am
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Interesting. What about Tehreek - e - Insaaf's prospects?
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#4 Posted by Leadenwinter on April 28, 2008 3:22:33 pm
What was wrong with the Military. They're a ready-made highly trained and educated bureaucracy.....oh yeah but sorry I forgot the Pakistani public consists mainly of traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes hankering for democracy.... Zardari is by far exactly what Pakistan deserves.
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#5 Posted by Ras on April 28, 2008 9:58:15 pm


http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/1417588/

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#6 Posted by majumdar on April 28, 2008 9:59:07 pm
Leadenwinter,

(What was wrong with the Military)

Not much really except:

Losing three wars against India.
Alienating and later losing one half of the country.
Inflicting the jihadi and sectarian virus in the country.
Making the country an American stooge without any perceptible benefit for the common masses.

Regards
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#7 Posted by HP on April 29, 2008 12:04:45 am
I know this is a waste but let me say this anyway. We accept that Bachelor's degree should be mandatory for running for an office. Would you now accept that only College grads should be allowed to vote also?

There has to be some equilibrium somewhere. Why should someone with a degree be elected by uneducated voters? The voter and the candidate should have the same minimum qualifications.

Issues like this are supported by people who have no interest in democracy or the rule of law. They would accept a non graduate army officer to break the law and the constitution but will not accept a poor or uneducated person to run for an office in a legal way!
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#8 Posted by jayp on April 29, 2008 2:35:17 am
What qualification???

Probably pakistan had the most educated pakistani as the prime minister, shoukat aziz and he did not provision a single rupee in investment in the electricity sector. Reason, the pak economy grew too fast...

If that is what the best education d9oes to teh top executive in the country...well one has to look at something very different..the paki mind and how the education gets used.

One can even see this phenomenon in the case of pakis born in the UK and wonder how they end up as bombers..
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#9 Posted by jayp on April 29, 2008 3:01:22 am
Education and pakistan..

It was the best minds of the pak military that organised the kargill invasion

It was the best minds of the pak military that supported talibanisation

should I keep going better not. Pka military has the best resources, best training facilities ..you name it,

still that is what the pak minds come up with.

Pakistans problem is created by the educated and not by the illiterate.

It should be reasonable that only the illiterate should be elected to pak parliment...things could improve.
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#10 Posted by jayp on April 29, 2008 3:13:16 am



Hamid saab,

Here is a question for you from a karachi father. Tell him that there is no point in education of teh metriculate type in pakistan.

Advice him to send the child to a madrass, which can lead him to become a jihadi war lord, bank rober or the like or a general in the military.




What to gift


MY 16-year-old son is appearing for his matriculation examinations these days. To encourage him to pass his examinations with excellent grade, I thought of promising him to gift him a cellphone.

But with the ever-increasing cellphone snatching incidents in Karachi these days, most of which go unreported, I thought not to present him a cellphone and risk his life.

My next consideration was to buy him a motorbike but as reported in your newspaper (April 24) that a student of Class X while returning home after his matriculation examination was intercepted by two youths in Lyari who tried to snatch the motorbike from him. The student resisted the robbery attempt and the scuffle resulted in a shootout in which two schoolgirls, aged six and eight, were killed.

The new government is in place but the law and order situation in Karachi and elsewhere in the country is getting from bad to worse. If our prime minister, Yusuf Raza Gilani, can order the release of deposed judges through verbal instructions, why can’t he question those responsible for maintaining law and order in Karachi? The present government will not last long if the law and order situation continues to deteriorate.

M. RAFIQUE ZAKARIA
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#11 Posted by Dash_Dot on April 29, 2008 4:01:27 am
cart before the horse syndrome.

In a democracy, education perse should not be the judge of the suitability of a person to be a preresentative in a legislative body. A restriction of this sort will make a mockery of democracy.

Always seraching for an utopia which will solve all your problems....the searc is for a superman. There is no such superman. Something has gone wrong horribly here. Or have Macaulay's chickens come home to roost?
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#12 Posted by vanguard on April 29, 2008 5:09:14 am
O please!!! save me the drama..

The last government of Pakistan was the most educated in terms of educational degrees. And look the kind of rut they have left us in...
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#13 Posted by nasah on April 29, 2008 8:54:15 am
To require a Bachelor degree for becoming a MNA of 60% illiterate but shrewd voters -- is not only stupidly elitist -- but positively fascistic and degradingly contemptuous of the "Awaam".

However the necessity of the removal of this clause as the first most urgent priority through the SC illegal judges -- without waiting for the reinstatement of the SC legal judges shows -- that from now on Pakistan priorities will circle around a self-appointed, Matriculate godfather instead of a self-appointed Bachelor dictator. What an improvement. Bravo!
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#14 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 29, 2008 12:36:48 pm
I think all prospective MNAs/Senators should have to sit an IQ test like the top multinationals use [in either Urdu or English] and anyone who gets less than 120 shouldn't be allowed to become an MNA/Senator.

Don't want thickos to run a country. Therein lies the flaw in democracy---even a clown can become elected if enough fools vote for him.

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#15 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 29, 2008 12:39:23 pm
If my last post sounds elitist then I don't apologise--human society is naturally heirarchical and to pretend otherwise in some far-left liberal bullshit is just stupid. 'The rule of the proletariat'--that's the dumbest crap ever spewed by an intelligent person. How does coming from the working class make u better qualified to rule? (I am from working class origins myself so have nothing against the working class per se.)

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#16 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 29, 2008 12:40:52 pm
I think if the bachelors degree qualification was good--except it should be upgraded to Bachelor's with a GPA of 3.5 or more.

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