Hammad Siddiqi April 22, 2008
#25 Posted by Leadenwinter on April 30, 2008 7:49:22 am
Re # 18
Unlike being informed by the idiotic islamic semi-literate rubbish you incessantly spew Mr. Tahir, I am merely informed by objective common sense.
The Pakistani public are indeed traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes... hankering for democracy as prompted by their own lack of moral fibre and incitement by their friends in the US...in the same cargo-cult-like manner they hanker after mobile phones, MTV and other western consumer goods/lifestyle..
Democracy is requisite to the Pakistani elite and middle classes, as it is in effect authorisation and solicitude for them to perpetrate the corruption and manifest the criminality as well as the general ineptitude and administrative malpractice that Pakistan is world-famous for.
Democracy is well and truly in this case.. "by the people for the people"...
This is precisely why Benazir and her husband, both known and proven criminals (by courts other than, as well as Pakistani Courts.. i.e Spain and the UK to name a few ) were readmitted into the country. This is why Navaz Sharif, a known and proven criminal, also brother to a known and proven murderer was allowed to stand for public office.
This is the only and exclusive basis for these previous elections.
Pakistanis only want democracy because it allows them to be Pakistanis as compared to being human beings.
The quality of leadership the people of Pakistan hanker after .. (evidenced by the numbers that responded when Benazir turned up and Sharif's popular support ) .. reflects only the quality of the people of Pakistan... as traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes.
These are truths we shall have to admit to and address before any progress can be made.
No amount of education of the leadership can ever result in any improvement. It is every member of the public who has to be educated before democracy can ever work, (if indeed democracy is even nessessary). This is a point which has been proved by every European democracy, which only very gradually allowed adult franchise to different social demographics.
Before that day comes only a dictatorship can work as suffering only thing muslims understand.
Unlike being informed by the idiotic islamic semi-literate rubbish you incessantly spew Mr. Tahir, I am merely informed by objective common sense.
The Pakistani public are indeed traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes... hankering for democracy as prompted by their own lack of moral fibre and incitement by their friends in the US...in the same cargo-cult-like manner they hanker after mobile phones, MTV and other western consumer goods/lifestyle..
Democracy is requisite to the Pakistani elite and middle classes, as it is in effect authorisation and solicitude for them to perpetrate the corruption and manifest the criminality as well as the general ineptitude and administrative malpractice that Pakistan is world-famous for.
Democracy is well and truly in this case.. "by the people for the people"...
This is precisely why Benazir and her husband, both known and proven criminals (by courts other than, as well as Pakistani Courts.. i.e Spain and the UK to name a few ) were readmitted into the country. This is why Navaz Sharif, a known and proven criminal, also brother to a known and proven murderer was allowed to stand for public office.
This is the only and exclusive basis for these previous elections.
Pakistanis only want democracy because it allows them to be Pakistanis as compared to being human beings.
The quality of leadership the people of Pakistan hanker after .. (evidenced by the numbers that responded when Benazir turned up and Sharif's popular support ) .. reflects only the quality of the people of Pakistan... as traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes.
These are truths we shall have to admit to and address before any progress can be made.
No amount of education of the leadership can ever result in any improvement. It is every member of the public who has to be educated before democracy can ever work, (if indeed democracy is even nessessary). This is a point which has been proved by every European democracy, which only very gradually allowed adult franchise to different social demographics.
Before that day comes only a dictatorship can work as suffering only thing muslims understand.
#26 Posted by tahir on April 30, 2008 10:30:50 am
Re: # 25
Well Mr. Leadhead,
You're guidance comes from your brain cells: common sense. We Muslims have Divine Guidance no matter where we live. Living amongst criminals, traitors and call-girls has done irrepairable damage to your common sense because you see the entire world full of such characters.
Don't you live in this world? Since you're an Indian, why don't you mind your business and sort out your own problems first. An Indian agent like yourself must stay fit but I'm afraid too much hatred directed against a neighbouring country and its people will kill you very soon.
Rest in peace.
Well Mr. Leadhead,
You're guidance comes from your brain cells: common sense. We Muslims have Divine Guidance no matter where we live. Living amongst criminals, traitors and call-girls has done irrepairable damage to your common sense because you see the entire world full of such characters.
Don't you live in this world? Since you're an Indian, why don't you mind your business and sort out your own problems first. An Indian agent like yourself must stay fit but I'm afraid too much hatred directed against a neighbouring country and its people will kill you very soon.
Rest in peace.
#27 Posted by Leadenwinter on April 30, 2008 4:44:45 pm
Re#26
I wonder by where in your infinite muslim wisdom did you conclude that I was an Indian.. ?
I wonder by where in your infinite muslim wisdom did you conclude that I was an Indian.. ?
#28 Posted by sherbaz on May 1, 2008 9:33:54 am
(re:#17)A reality check for you big rump, yes an elected representative represents his/her constituents but it would really help if the representative has the intellectual capacity to comprehend and proactively address issues that are being faced. People like you are the problem of this country since you want to keep the status quo while bitching in online forums. grow up. I'm no supporter of the past rulers but think back to the last 20 years of Pakistan history. which was the period in these years where Pakistan prospered the most? don't give me bullshit reasons like 'it was american support, the war on terror, blah blah blah' facts are facts, no matter what extenuating circumstances. educated legislators are better than illiterate ones, if you deny this, then you're a simpleton.
And Lederhosen or whatever the hell you are, the only traitor, prostitute, asswipe etc here is you. You ask why tahir thinks you're indian? we can all smell the heeng in here.
And Lederhosen or whatever the hell you are, the only traitor, prostitute, asswipe etc here is you. You ask why tahir thinks you're indian? we can all smell the heeng in here.
#29 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 2, 2008 6:05:36 am
Re #26 and #28
Its interesting that all you people can produce is these half baked, essentially ad-homonym statements, rather than even attempt to rebut what I say in any rational fashion.
I think this is either because you're totally immature people with no real idea about anything or totally immoral individuals who will go to any lengths to reconcile their essentially petty bourgeoisie/pro-western cargo-cultic aspirations with the disgraceful travesty that Pakistan has become.
The very reason by which you find yourself resenting what I say is the very reason the nation is in the state it is.
Its interesting that all you people can produce is these half baked, essentially ad-homonym statements, rather than even attempt to rebut what I say in any rational fashion.
I think this is either because you're totally immature people with no real idea about anything or totally immoral individuals who will go to any lengths to reconcile their essentially petty bourgeoisie/pro-western cargo-cultic aspirations with the disgraceful travesty that Pakistan has become.
The very reason by which you find yourself resenting what I say is the very reason the nation is in the state it is.
#30 Posted by sherbaz on May 2, 2008 8:50:53 am
Re #29
you're asking for a rational rebuttal to an offensive, generalised, virulent, spiteful and generally ignorant comment like "I forgot the Pakistani public consists mainly of traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes"?
You're clearly a frickin' half-wit.
And by the way; using vocabulary that you obviously gleaned after using the 'synonym' option of Microsoft Word only reinforces the popular perception in this forum that you're the worst kind of pretentious imbecile out there.
You say; "I think this is either because you're totally immature people with no real idea about anything" Buddy, its obvious that 'think'ing is hardly amongst your strongest virtues.
If only your dad had been 'think'ing about birth control.
Now, since I've effectively ripped you a new asshole, (quite rationally too I might add,) do yourself and everyone a favour and please bugger off.
you're asking for a rational rebuttal to an offensive, generalised, virulent, spiteful and generally ignorant comment like "I forgot the Pakistani public consists mainly of traitors, thieves, criminals and prostitutes"?
You're clearly a frickin' half-wit.
And by the way; using vocabulary that you obviously gleaned after using the 'synonym' option of Microsoft Word only reinforces the popular perception in this forum that you're the worst kind of pretentious imbecile out there.
You say; "I think this is either because you're totally immature people with no real idea about anything" Buddy, its obvious that 'think'ing is hardly amongst your strongest virtues.
If only your dad had been 'think'ing about birth control.
Now, since I've effectively ripped you a new asshole, (quite rationally too I might add,) do yourself and everyone a favour and please bugger off.
#31 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 2, 2008 3:46:08 pm
Again.. I may be whatever I am.. a pretentious imbecile etc etc.. that's not what I'm seeking to defend, all of which nevertheless has nothing to do with what I'm saying, though I must say nothing of the impotent likes of you can effectively rip anything as far as I'm concerned.
If you are capable (which I doubt) of setting aside your idiocies, I would like you to address the fact that removal of the educational requisites for our Parliamentarians is essentially the creation of a leeway for criminals to run the country. This reflects the quality of the electorate who choose this, foreseeably only to allow for their criminality to prosper as lackeys and vassals of their masters.
You thus must be a criminal if you support this.
If you are capable (which I doubt) of setting aside your idiocies, I would like you to address the fact that removal of the educational requisites for our Parliamentarians is essentially the creation of a leeway for criminals to run the country. This reflects the quality of the electorate who choose this, foreseeably only to allow for their criminality to prosper as lackeys and vassals of their masters.
You thus must be a criminal if you support this.
#32 Posted by majumdar on May 3, 2008 3:43:38 am
General Leadenwinter,
(removal of the educational requisites for our Parliamentarians is essentially the creation of a leeway for criminals to run the country. )
It was the highly educated Gen Yahya Khan and highly educated ZAB who broke up the nation in 1971. It was the highly edducated military genius Zia who Islamised Pakistan and lost Siachen. It was the military genius Mushy who nearly lost all of NWFP for Pak.
Regards
(removal of the educational requisites for our Parliamentarians is essentially the creation of a leeway for criminals to run the country. )
It was the highly educated Gen Yahya Khan and highly educated ZAB who broke up the nation in 1971. It was the highly edducated military genius Zia who Islamised Pakistan and lost Siachen. It was the military genius Mushy who nearly lost all of NWFP for Pak.
Regards
#33 Posted by Leadenwinter on May 3, 2008 3:48:27 am
Re #32
So the solution......lets hand the country over to known and proven criminals, who also happen to be illiterate as well....... Truly Brilliant
So the solution......lets hand the country over to known and proven criminals, who also happen to be illiterate as well....... Truly Brilliant
#34 Posted by majumdar on May 3, 2008 3:52:49 am
Leadenwinter,
It is by no means proven that YRG and his gang are known and proven criminals. Fondling a (consenting) collegaues boobs in public is no big deal.
The man who was in power before (mushy) OTOH was a certified criminal who is responsible for a military coup (treason punishable by death under Pak laws) and massacre of innocent citizens in FATA and in Lal Masjid.
Regards
It is by no means proven that YRG and his gang are known and proven criminals. Fondling a (consenting) collegaues boobs in public is no big deal.
The man who was in power before (mushy) OTOH was a certified criminal who is responsible for a military coup (treason punishable by death under Pak laws) and massacre of innocent citizens in FATA and in Lal Masjid.
Regards
#35 Posted by sherbaz on May 5, 2008 10:40:06 am
re # 31
Testimonials regarding my potency and ability to rip new bodily orifices can be aquired from miscellaneous female members of your immediate and extended family. Ask and Ye shall recieve.
As for your main point which I guess was masked by your ineptitude to state your case in a logical and respectful manner; I agree wholeheartedly with the author that educational restrictions need to be in place to qualify for parliament, however I disagree that not having this restriction in place will allow for criminals to run the country. dumbasses probably, but being a dumbass does not mean you're a criminal.(which is probably why you're still free)
and as to your parting shot; a fallacy. You're inducing a certain conclusion without a supporting premise based on fact. As usual, your uncanny ability to talk out of your ass amazes one and all.
Testimonials regarding my potency and ability to rip new bodily orifices can be aquired from miscellaneous female members of your immediate and extended family. Ask and Ye shall recieve.
As for your main point which I guess was masked by your ineptitude to state your case in a logical and respectful manner; I agree wholeheartedly with the author that educational restrictions need to be in place to qualify for parliament, however I disagree that not having this restriction in place will allow for criminals to run the country. dumbasses probably, but being a dumbass does not mean you're a criminal.(which is probably why you're still free)
and as to your parting shot; a fallacy. You're inducing a certain conclusion without a supporting premise based on fact. As usual, your uncanny ability to talk out of your ass amazes one and all.
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