Don’t Hang Sarabjeet

Urstruly#139:
"From the secular point of view, if sarbjeet is hanged today, indians will hang a pakistani tit for tat"

It seems that you are not quite familiar with how the Indian judicial system works; it is not under political or public pressure. Death sentence is awarded in the rarest of rare cases, not more than five or six hangings have taken place in the last decade or so. However, what goes on in police interrogations or encounters is another matter.

zemax#133:

I haven't read the story but it doesn't look good for poor Sarabjeet. What happened to the followers of the famed Chanakya Neeti?

#135 Posted by iqbal492,

You're really amazing. The people who were targeted in Luna Caprese were FBI/CIA people. They had arrived in unmarked cars with just small stickers on the driver side windows giving the security code for the Embassy entrance. The bombers actually knew when they were going to arrive and where they were going to be seated. In the lawn and not inside. They bombed the lawn. It was not a suicide bomber but a planted bomb well in advance.

And you're worried about who will visit Pakistan? You want Pakistan Police to arrest and prosecute these bombers like petty thieves as if they could?

Grow up, kid.

Re: # 145

I think it is quite humourous who have any interest in wars, like war on terra, indo-pak wars, war of paniput, starwars, etc. etc.

If you still don't get it, R2D2 was the name of a robot in the some early starwar movies, who happened to be gay and whose personality was very much like that of the object of massadais praise.

Re: # 144

Massaddi Mian:

"...R2d(T)32...."

Is this your best effort to introduce humor in your write-ups?

Please remind us the humor in it. Is it you being mathematically challenged or something else?

PM= Pervert Musahrraf
PH= Pervert Hoodbhoy
HM2 & R2d(T)32= your guess is as good as mine ; )

like I said don't hang Sarabjeet before you hang PM, PH, HM2, R2d(T)32 and the rest of the peons of the West thugs that are either butchering the people of this country or facilitating their butchering by the Americans by fact (of hellfires) and by proxy (of policies and the Pak Army).....

People are dying of hunger and deprivation caused disease in both countries by the thousands, with or without suicide bombers, and all they are concerned about is if one side will hang a thug from the other side and is he actually the bomber? And the Einstein wonders how someone could have smuggled a bomb across the border but doesn't wonder how hundreds of thousands sneak across the US border, nor does he wonder how NORAD setup to take care of sophisticated intrusions by the Soviet missiles and fighters, was just clueless about the hijacked planes on 9/11 even after being alerted. These reasons by these dimwits who are defending Sarabjid tells me he must be guilty, he should pray that he is rescued from such BS defense, or he'll be hung for sure. Fools.

Iqbal Singh writes "My question to you how many suicide bombers have been arrested, punished, hanged and their operations foiled"

You are a certified idiot, what part of the body (parts) of the suicide bomber will they arrest? And when it serves the purpose of the powers that be, the US and the Pakistan Army why should they put an end to these? India is a haven for all kinds of dung, does not mean you should free a criminal because many who do it aren't caught. What kind of idiotic logic is this fool...

izuber writes "He is far from death under the circumstances specified by masadi..."

He is not far from death not in his health which is quite bad, nor in his trial which leads to the death penalty. The US A(rse) is cooked in Iraq, they don't have time to worry about Tariq Aziz...

Re: # 135 Iqbal

I proposed some suggestions, with in the legal framework of Pakistan, that if acted upon, would help save life of a convict. It does not matter now whether he was implicated rightly or wrongly, now does it? Yes it is true that under much despised unIslamic law the president has the authrity to spare the life of a convict but in the aftermath of a spate of killings of Pakistani prisoners in Indian jails even this dictator would have problem commuting sarbjeets death sentences.

But I assure you that Sarbjeet's life can still be saved if his legal council invokes the law of Qisas (compensation for murder). If the relatives of the vitims of Sarbjeet accept a monetary settlement or chose to forgive him without accepting any compensation sarbjeet can go home as a free man.

Why can't you see that there is a Divine purpose behind the law of Qisas. Islam does not promote taking human life, even that of a convict, if it could be helped. Therefore, it offers chance for closure to the survivors of a murder victim by forgiving the murderer of their loved one in excahnge for a monetary compensation or without it. Some people forgive their perpetrator for the sake of Allah, others across the globe do it because it makes them feel better about themselves anf gives them the closure to their agony and misery - and that without accepting any monetray compensation.

From the secular point of view, if sarbjeet is hanged today, indians will hang a pakistani tit for tat. And then this circle of depriving human beings their chance to live will continue ad infinitum. God has given us a chance to get out of this vicious circle of tit for tat. It would be our misfortune if we do not avail this blessing.

Re: # 135
Iqbal...

You must read the statement of Andrew Symonds who has openly refrained from visiting Pakistan.

Ans: He is paid 4.5 crore to play for Deccan Chargers. Why he should tour Pakistan?

Re: # 135
Iqbal...
Ans: Couple of valid points...
Without local conspirators, it is not possible to manufacture bomb and blast in three cities single-handedly. If some other Indias were also associated with this, they should be equally punished....
India had more VIP casualties than Pakistan- Mohandas, Indira and Rajiv Gandhis. It has taken several years to punish the killer of Indira Gandhi, though the killers were identified immidietly.Sir, Indian judiciary and police are also very incompetent and corrupt....
Now the suicide bombers in Pakistan are committing crime as per Islam (Halllal) and compliant with sharia/hadith/quoran. Had this fellow (Sarabjit) planted bomb with same compliance (sharia/hadith/quoran)? May be not. So, Sarabjit should be punished not the islamic bombers/jihadis. The people who are loosing there life due to islamic bombs, they will land up in heaven ( with 72 virgins...). Why their kins need compensation?...

serious: What Sarabjit was doing in Pakistan? If he had accidentaly crossed border, he should have brought that in the notice of Pak rangers and BSF. Was his VISA stamped properly?
I am sure, people of Punjab (India) are aware of hostility between India and Pakistan (at that time, Jia regime)...

Somebody has brought price list of life as per saudi government...
I think, Narendra Modi also started following same...
One set of compensation for rioters and another set for train passengers, who were burnt....

Heaven for suicide bombers...

Arjun,
72 arab virgins (in heaven they take bath regularly, unlike in arab countries) is not mean stuff. May be Gibril has increased the quota. We need another Muhammed to listen to Akashvani and convey us the actual amount. So, for a poor Pakistani it is not improper deal...Deadliest suicide bombers are Tamil Tigers. For petty political right, if people can resort to such violence, why not for heaven?

#135 Posted by iqbal492 on April 30, 2008 5:05:14 am


Secondly Pakistan is a haven (paradise) for suicide bombers,


yup...that would be like china importing lead tainted toys...

Dear Moeed and Urstruly

First let the law of the land take its own course. Sarabjit’s case leaves many questions unanswered. First what were the pakistani intelligence officials and police agencies doing when Sarabjeet crossed the Border with the Bomb. Where they sleeping when he was planting the bomb. How is it possible for one person single handedly to orchestrate bomb blasts in different cities viz (Lahore, Multan & Islamabad). Secondly Pakistan is a haven (paradise) for suicide bombers, robbers, smugglers, dacoits. In the past one year there has been so may suicide blasts. Suicide Bombers have targeted everywhere in Pakistan whether market places, public rallies, airports, army recruitment camp, army cantonment, Naval college, Lahore High court, police stations, religious places. My question to you how many suicide bombers have been arrested, punished, hanged and their operations foiled. How may people (victims) have been compensated till today, not even one, forget justice. In the first week of January 2008, 2 dozen policeman were killed outside the Lahore High court by a suicide bomber. The policeman were sitting ducks. Last month a popular Italian restruant was bombed. Most of the victims were Europeans, those who survived have a hearing problem, their ears were blasted. Tell me who will visit Pakistan if this is the case. You must read the statement of Andrew Symonds who has openly refrained from visiting Pakistan. You own Prime Minister Mrs Bhutto was assisnated by a suicide bomber in a gun and bomb blast. Even the Australian cricket team had to cancel their tour after the entire security building was targeted. It was a seven storeyed building. Last year the south Africans had to cancel their visit to Karachi. The first bomb blasts was at a hotel which was done by the RAW according to Pakistani newspapers. Next day there was a second blasts at the same hotel which was done by the hotel management. Actually speaking, there were some differences between the management and the hotel workers. This is the quality, type of Pakistani investigation and reporting.


Iqbal Singh

Ps: When the Olympic torch arrived at Islamabad. U must read the news report from France “Olympic Torch arrives at the land of Suicide Bombers”.

Re: # 122
Naqsa..

I guess we have to deal with it. It was ever thus...when the Chinese become the mightiest nation on Earth (by 2050 or so) do you think they'll be any nicer?

Ans: That situation (China is mighitiest nation) may not happen. The biggest boon (large population) is also the biggest curse for China and India. The internal problem will keep it engaged than to pursue hegemonic action in remote areas. Chinese defence technology is mostly pirated copy of Russia. If Russia joins western european countries, China will face problem.
The basic infrastructure avaialable in EU and North Americas are thousand times better than that of any asian nation (except Korea and Japan). Japan is showing no sign of joining China...
China immensly benefittted by siding with USA when cold war was at it's peak. Recently, USA and NATO agreed to share power (with USSR) in central asia and may help USA fight against Taleban in Afg and Pak...