Don’t Hang Sarabjeet

Iqbal Singh writes "My question to you how many suicide bombers have been arrested, punished, hanged and their operations foiled"

You are a certified idiot, what part of the body (parts) of the suicide bomber will they arrest? And when it serves the purpose of the powers that be, the US and the Pakistan Army why should they put an end to these? India is a haven for all kinds of dung, does not mean you should free a criminal because many who do it aren't caught. What kind of idiotic logic is this fool...

izuber writes "He is far from death under the circumstances specified by masadi..."

He is not far from death not in his health which is quite bad, nor in his trial which leads to the death penalty. The US A(rse) is cooked in Iraq, they don't have time to worry about Tariq Aziz...

Re: # 135 Iqbal

I proposed some suggestions, with in the legal framework of Pakistan, that if acted upon, would help save life of a convict. It does not matter now whether he was implicated rightly or wrongly, now does it? Yes it is true that under much despised unIslamic law the president has the authrity to spare the life of a convict but in the aftermath of a spate of killings of Pakistani prisoners in Indian jails even this dictator would have problem commuting sarbjeets death sentences.

But I assure you that Sarbjeet's life can still be saved if his legal council invokes the law of Qisas (compensation for murder). If the relatives of the vitims of Sarbjeet accept a monetary settlement or chose to forgive him without accepting any compensation sarbjeet can go home as a free man.

Why can't you see that there is a Divine purpose behind the law of Qisas. Islam does not promote taking human life, even that of a convict, if it could be helped. Therefore, it offers chance for closure to the survivors of a murder victim by forgiving the murderer of their loved one in excahnge for a monetary compensation or without it. Some people forgive their perpetrator for the sake of Allah, others across the globe do it because it makes them feel better about themselves anf gives them the closure to their agony and misery - and that without accepting any monetray compensation.

From the secular point of view, if sarbjeet is hanged today, indians will hang a pakistani tit for tat. And then this circle of depriving human beings their chance to live will continue ad infinitum. God has given us a chance to get out of this vicious circle of tit for tat. It would be our misfortune if we do not avail this blessing.

Re: # 135
Iqbal...

You must read the statement of Andrew Symonds who has openly refrained from visiting Pakistan.

Ans: He is paid 4.5 crore to play for Deccan Chargers. Why he should tour Pakistan?

Re: # 135
Iqbal...
Ans: Couple of valid points...
Without local conspirators, it is not possible to manufacture bomb and blast in three cities single-handedly. If some other Indias were also associated with this, they should be equally punished....
India had more VIP casualties than Pakistan- Mohandas, Indira and Rajiv Gandhis. It has taken several years to punish the killer of Indira Gandhi, though the killers were identified immidietly.Sir, Indian judiciary and police are also very incompetent and corrupt....
Now the suicide bombers in Pakistan are committing crime as per Islam (Halllal) and compliant with sharia/hadith/quoran. Had this fellow (Sarabjit) planted bomb with same compliance (sharia/hadith/quoran)? May be not. So, Sarabjit should be punished not the islamic bombers/jihadis. The people who are loosing there life due to islamic bombs, they will land up in heaven ( with 72 virgins...). Why their kins need compensation?...

serious: What Sarabjit was doing in Pakistan? If he had accidentaly crossed border, he should have brought that in the notice of Pak rangers and BSF. Was his VISA stamped properly?
I am sure, people of Punjab (India) are aware of hostility between India and Pakistan (at that time, Jia regime)...

Somebody has brought price list of life as per saudi government...
I think, Narendra Modi also started following same...
One set of compensation for rioters and another set for train passengers, who were burnt....

Heaven for suicide bombers...

Arjun,
72 arab virgins (in heaven they take bath regularly, unlike in arab countries) is not mean stuff. May be Gibril has increased the quota. We need another Muhammed to listen to Akashvani and convey us the actual amount. So, for a poor Pakistani it is not improper deal...Deadliest suicide bombers are Tamil Tigers. For petty political right, if people can resort to such violence, why not for heaven?

#135 Posted by iqbal492 on April 30, 2008 5:05:14 am


Secondly Pakistan is a haven (paradise) for suicide bombers,


yup...that would be like china importing lead tainted toys...

Dear Moeed and Urstruly

First let the law of the land take its own course. Sarabjit’s case leaves many questions unanswered. First what were the pakistani intelligence officials and police agencies doing when Sarabjeet crossed the Border with the Bomb. Where they sleeping when he was planting the bomb. How is it possible for one person single handedly to orchestrate bomb blasts in different cities viz (Lahore, Multan & Islamabad). Secondly Pakistan is a haven (paradise) for suicide bombers, robbers, smugglers, dacoits. In the past one year there has been so may suicide blasts. Suicide Bombers have targeted everywhere in Pakistan whether market places, public rallies, airports, army recruitment camp, army cantonment, Naval college, Lahore High court, police stations, religious places. My question to you how many suicide bombers have been arrested, punished, hanged and their operations foiled. How may people (victims) have been compensated till today, not even one, forget justice. In the first week of January 2008, 2 dozen policeman were killed outside the Lahore High court by a suicide bomber. The policeman were sitting ducks. Last month a popular Italian restruant was bombed. Most of the victims were Europeans, those who survived have a hearing problem, their ears were blasted. Tell me who will visit Pakistan if this is the case. You must read the statement of Andrew Symonds who has openly refrained from visiting Pakistan. You own Prime Minister Mrs Bhutto was assisnated by a suicide bomber in a gun and bomb blast. Even the Australian cricket team had to cancel their tour after the entire security building was targeted. It was a seven storeyed building. Last year the south Africans had to cancel their visit to Karachi. The first bomb blasts was at a hotel which was done by the RAW according to Pakistani newspapers. Next day there was a second blasts at the same hotel which was done by the hotel management. Actually speaking, there were some differences between the management and the hotel workers. This is the quality, type of Pakistani investigation and reporting.


Iqbal Singh

Ps: When the Olympic torch arrived at Islamabad. U must read the news report from France “Olympic Torch arrives at the land of Suicide Bombers”.

Re: # 122
Naqsa..

I guess we have to deal with it. It was ever thus...when the Chinese become the mightiest nation on Earth (by 2050 or so) do you think they'll be any nicer?

Ans: That situation (China is mighitiest nation) may not happen. The biggest boon (large population) is also the biggest curse for China and India. The internal problem will keep it engaged than to pursue hegemonic action in remote areas. Chinese defence technology is mostly pirated copy of Russia. If Russia joins western european countries, China will face problem.
The basic infrastructure avaialable in EU and North Americas are thousand times better than that of any asian nation (except Korea and Japan). Japan is showing no sign of joining China...
China immensly benefittted by siding with USA when cold war was at it's peak. Recently, USA and NATO agreed to share power (with USSR) in central asia and may help USA fight against Taleban in Afg and Pak...

... in the meantime, India is handing Pakistan another prisoner body at Wagah.

Dost, are they mad or what? Or are they doing it on purpose for some reason?

Re: # 117
He is far from death under the circumstances specified by masadi, he is in the safe-keeping of the USA and accommodated right in the good old US of A.
People better forget him.

Naqshbandi writes "...when the Chinese become the mightiest nation on Earth (by 2050 or so) do you think they'll be any nicer?..."

You cannot justify the current actions of the barbarian country's elite with hypotheticals. China will not become the mightiest country of the world, now more than in the past it is trapped within the machinery of the capitalist system that will keep it subordinate...with minor tweakings using India, Tibet, Taiwan, Japan, Korea etc when it decides to step out of line...

Re: # 86
VRV...
India owes an apology to Pakistan not for the 'killing' of Khalid but the 'death' of the same coz he died in India’s custody. So India shud apologise officially.

Ans: Custodial death in India is not uncommon. If you are Paki and overstaying in India, be prepared for any type of action from Indian police. That is the area, where Indian police can do anything without fear. Westerners receive different treatment.
The Pakistanis, who come with family (mostly medical purpose) are spared. Indian jails are still jails.Only Kiran Bedi tried to change that for Tihar jail(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiran_Bedi). So, more such Khalid you may find from Indian jails ( dying in police custody), unless and until they are hardcore terrorists/islamist ( like Omar Sheik etc...)....Indian police and jail needs reform for last 30/40 years. GOI can not foot the bill now. When India will be rich, Khalids will return from jail to Pakistan.

Re: # 48
Stuka...
My sincere advice to Hindus is that they should make an offer to pay Qisas and Diyat pre-emptively to the next of the kins of sarbjeet's victims. Make them an offer that they ccould not refuse.They must hire lawyers and file a case in supreme court asking for its interference to facilitate Qisas proceedings. "

Sirji, Sarabjit Singh is a Sikh and we are Baniyas. ;)

Ans: What an Idea!!!! And do this rule apply for the general people of Pakistan also? Paying money to evade law (buying law)!!!!

Re: # 95
Treetop...

the year was 2001 and pak economy was in shambles the forex reserves had dwindled to paltry 400m dollars,it was becoming increasingly difficult for pak to pay its debt inst.pakistan was on the verge of bankruptcy,and then boom 9/11 happens all the restrictions are lifted,and money starts pouring from all corners and within 6 months pak forex reserves shoot up to 12 billion dollars.Just for alowing US to use the airspace pakistan collected 7 billion.WAS THIS JUST A COINCIDENCE?
Who are talaibans and alqaida? who was the mastermind behind 9/11and who was pulling thier strings?think about it.
who stood to gain from this surreal drama?
dear indian friends do not under estimate the adventurous spirit of pakistan, when cornered pakistan is capable of doing anything.BEWARE.

Ans: Oh no, I am not undermining nuicense creation capability of Pakistan. I meant, USA had the hard option on Pakistan than using USD12bn. This amount may be petty small for USA, but definitely saved Pakistan to large extent. Pakistan is ally of USA for long time. USA will help Pakistan as much as possible....

Re: # 126 HP

I actually agree with you. I think NS will be let present a resolution in the Assembly and same assembly will overwhelmingly approve it. But when it will go to senate, where 2/3rd majority is that of Lota League and fascists MQM the resolution will be shot down. This is oldest fukking trick in the history of parliaments when the "elected' memebrs do not want to do something. Its gonna be interesting. Meanwhile I suggest people to stay away from crowded places etc.

#121 Posted by Urstruly

No one is walking out of the coalition. The most they will do is suspend the participation of ministers until the constitution package is out. Zardari is providing cover for NS. He will take the blame because he is not going to be impacted by the backlash.

I do think that another campaign by the lawyers would only hurt temporarily. The jolt may actually put the army under pressure more than the civilians.

I saw former Indian FM Mishra’s statement somewhere and I think his idea of India providing support to the civilians will check the Pak army is good.