Moeed Pirzada April 27, 2008
#113 Posted by masadi on April 29, 2008 9:29:27 am
Its all a FARCE, same old sh** Time to raise hell by all and sundry, the country is dying and these fools want more of the same
#114 Posted by masadi on April 29, 2008 9:32:16 am
nasah writes "What a sadistic godforsaken subcontinent -- plague be on both houses."
Easy for you to say sitting in or near the most barbaric country the world has seen (I assume USA). Things happen over there that would make the most perverted a-hole in this country of ours remember his mama...
Easy for you to say sitting in or near the most barbaric country the world has seen (I assume USA). Things happen over there that would make the most perverted a-hole in this country of ours remember his mama...
#115 Posted by masadi on April 29, 2008 9:43:49 am
Ras " This Indo-Pak animosity has already created
a fountain of misery.... "
Not as much as the animosity between the elite in the US and the rest of the world, that "fountain of misery" is killing over 40,000 a day, destroying the world's environment and causing food shortages, not to mention the direct killings in laying whole countries to waste, directly and indirectly by pushing militarism and military sales in the hundreds of billions and altering agendas of the developing world from "development" to fighhting farcial wars and causing internal strife. Those barbarians outdo the India/Pakistan BS by a factor of a million to one...
a fountain of misery.... "
Not as much as the animosity between the elite in the US and the rest of the world, that "fountain of misery" is killing over 40,000 a day, destroying the world's environment and causing food shortages, not to mention the direct killings in laying whole countries to waste, directly and indirectly by pushing militarism and military sales in the hundreds of billions and altering agendas of the developing world from "development" to fighhting farcial wars and causing internal strife. Those barbarians outdo the India/Pakistan BS by a factor of a million to one...
#116 Posted by masadi on April 29, 2008 9:47:45 am
Bush blames Congress for slowdown, wants to make taxcuts (trickle down) permanent, refuses to acknowledge that US is in recession.....and you want to talk about Zardari's waffling.....I told you where these perversions originate, and from there they trickle down to the military and political institutions of the slave countries...
now finally g'night ...
now finally g'night ...
#117 Posted by masadi on April 29, 2008 9:49:14 am
Btw, Tariq Aziz (of Saddam fame) faces the death penalty for having a hand in punishing price hikers (who were sucking the blood of the people). He will be put to death if convicted...
#118 Posted by zeemax on April 29, 2008 10:22:24 am
#117 Posted by masadi,
Tariq Aziz is not even a Muslim. He's a Coptic Christian. But yes, you're right.
Tariq Aziz is not even a Muslim. He's a Coptic Christian. But yes, you're right.
#119 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 29, 2008 10:55:28 am
you know many consider masadi a madman but when one reads what is actually out there and not in the mainstream media --e.g. the pulitzer prize-winning book , "Ghost Wars" or the book version of Charlie Wilson's War one realises just how far the tentacles of the US --via the CIA --actually reach in determining the fates of elections in other countries...
and that masadi mian may well have a valid case.
and that masadi mian may well have a valid case.
#120 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 29, 2008 10:59:41 am
the US looks after its own strategic interests first and foremost --and that is not surprising--and will do anything to further them just as other countries will. in the real world of realpolitick that is what matters and everything else and talk of human rights and power of the people via the ballot box is just pious bullshit.
Yes, sometimes, when the entirety of the people unite--e.g. in iran in 1979 -- even the best laid plans of the superpowers come to nothing but those are rare exceptions and not the rule...
that the oil pipeline with pak/india/iran is going ahead is good for pakistan...i hope it brings in lots of money and raises the living standards of the countless poor...if that means working with the devil in the process so-be-it.
Yes, sometimes, when the entirety of the people unite--e.g. in iran in 1979 -- even the best laid plans of the superpowers come to nothing but those are rare exceptions and not the rule...
that the oil pipeline with pak/india/iran is going ahead is good for pakistan...i hope it brings in lots of money and raises the living standards of the countless poor...if that means working with the devil in the process so-be-it.
#121 Posted by Urstruly on April 29, 2008 11:00:53 am
Re: # 111
Amen,
probably walking out of the coalition will be the only gurantee that they will have for their physical and political survival from now on. I think we have entered the final phase of the mortal combat between people and corrupt, pro-western, oppresive ruling elite.
Power to the People!!!!
Amen,
probably walking out of the coalition will be the only gurantee that they will have for their physical and political survival from now on. I think we have entered the final phase of the mortal combat between people and corrupt, pro-western, oppresive ruling elite.
Power to the People!!!!
#122 Posted by Naqshbandi on April 29, 2008 11:02:50 am
the golden rule of geopolitics is and has always been, "jiski laaThi uski bhains" or "Whoever pays the piper calls the tunes"...In simpler terms: Might Is Right.
I guess we have to deal with it. It was ever thus...when the Chinese become the mightiest nation on Earth (by 2050 or so) do you think they'll be any nicer?
I guess we have to deal with it. It was ever thus...when the Chinese become the mightiest nation on Earth (by 2050 or so) do you think they'll be any nicer?
#123 Posted by tahir on April 29, 2008 11:20:10 am
Re: # 73
And let us not forget Zeba Bakhtyar marrying and finally divorcing the over-grown Meiji baby!
And let us not forget Zeba Bakhtyar marrying and finally divorcing the over-grown Meiji baby!
#124 Posted by tahir on April 29, 2008 11:27:12 am
Re: # 81
Mr. Naqshbandi,
Disregard my abhorence for all things sufi. I'll drink a large glass of 'sattu' (and say cheers too) to your admission that we are 'zinda dil' folks!
Mr. Naqshbandi,
Disregard my abhorence for all things sufi. I'll drink a large glass of 'sattu' (and say cheers too) to your admission that we are 'zinda dil' folks!
#125 Posted by tahir on April 29, 2008 11:36:41 am
Re: # 119
Please read that as 'does' have a valid case.
As 'they' say: the truth will set you free.
Please read that as 'does' have a valid case.
As 'they' say: the truth will set you free.
#126 Posted by HP on April 29, 2008 11:45:22 am
#121 Posted by Urstruly
No one is walking out of the coalition. The most they will do is suspend the participation of ministers until the constitution package is out. Zardari is providing cover for NS. He will take the blame because he is not going to be impacted by the backlash.
I do think that another campaign by the lawyers would only hurt temporarily. The jolt may actually put the army under pressure more than the civilians.
I saw former Indian FM Mishra’s statement somewhere and I think his idea of India providing support to the civilians will check the Pak army is good.
No one is walking out of the coalition. The most they will do is suspend the participation of ministers until the constitution package is out. Zardari is providing cover for NS. He will take the blame because he is not going to be impacted by the backlash.
I do think that another campaign by the lawyers would only hurt temporarily. The jolt may actually put the army under pressure more than the civilians.
I saw former Indian FM Mishra’s statement somewhere and I think his idea of India providing support to the civilians will check the Pak army is good.
#127 Posted by Urstruly on April 29, 2008 1:27:40 pm
Re: # 126 HP
I actually agree with you. I think NS will be let present a resolution in the Assembly and same assembly will overwhelmingly approve it. But when it will go to senate, where 2/3rd majority is that of Lota League and fascists MQM the resolution will be shot down. This is oldest fukking trick in the history of parliaments when the "elected' memebrs do not want to do something. Its gonna be interesting. Meanwhile I suggest people to stay away from crowded places etc.
I actually agree with you. I think NS will be let present a resolution in the Assembly and same assembly will overwhelmingly approve it. But when it will go to senate, where 2/3rd majority is that of Lota League and fascists MQM the resolution will be shot down. This is oldest fukking trick in the history of parliaments when the "elected' memebrs do not want to do something. Its gonna be interesting. Meanwhile I suggest people to stay away from crowded places etc.
#128 Posted by nkg on April 29, 2008 8:22:30 pm
Re: # 95
Treetop...
the year was 2001 and pak economy was in shambles the forex reserves had dwindled to paltry 400m dollars,it was becoming increasingly difficult for pak to pay its debt inst.pakistan was on the verge of bankruptcy,and then boom 9/11 happens all the restrictions are lifted,and money starts pouring from all corners and within 6 months pak forex reserves shoot up to 12 billion dollars.Just for alowing US to use the airspace pakistan collected 7 billion.WAS THIS JUST A COINCIDENCE?
Who are talaibans and alqaida? who was the mastermind behind 9/11and who was pulling thier strings?think about it.
who stood to gain from this surreal drama?
dear indian friends do not under estimate the adventurous spirit of pakistan, when cornered pakistan is capable of doing anything.BEWARE.
Ans: Oh no, I am not undermining nuicense creation capability of Pakistan. I meant, USA had the hard option on Pakistan than using USD12bn. This amount may be petty small for USA, but definitely saved Pakistan to large extent. Pakistan is ally of USA for long time. USA will help Pakistan as much as possible....
Treetop...
the year was 2001 and pak economy was in shambles the forex reserves had dwindled to paltry 400m dollars,it was becoming increasingly difficult for pak to pay its debt inst.pakistan was on the verge of bankruptcy,and then boom 9/11 happens all the restrictions are lifted,and money starts pouring from all corners and within 6 months pak forex reserves shoot up to 12 billion dollars.Just for alowing US to use the airspace pakistan collected 7 billion.WAS THIS JUST A COINCIDENCE?
Who are talaibans and alqaida? who was the mastermind behind 9/11and who was pulling thier strings?think about it.
who stood to gain from this surreal drama?
dear indian friends do not under estimate the adventurous spirit of pakistan, when cornered pakistan is capable of doing anything.BEWARE.
Ans: Oh no, I am not undermining nuicense creation capability of Pakistan. I meant, USA had the hard option on Pakistan than using USD12bn. This amount may be petty small for USA, but definitely saved Pakistan to large extent. Pakistan is ally of USA for long time. USA will help Pakistan as much as possible....
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