Nadeem Akram April 28, 2008
#1 Posted by parthaab on April 29, 2008 11:47:45 pm
" No teacher, or parent for that matter, has ever taken the time to explain it to his or her ward what the Kalima stands for. "
Thankfully for the god-believers, no teacher or parent is even attempting to explain anything. If they did, they surely will discover a truth, entirely different from what they were trying to 'prove'. Religions themselves do not try to explain anything - not without reason.
What we need really, is anger-management courses alongwith moral science classes for the brain-washable age-group. God-believing is a medieval 'art of living' that lasted some 4000 years, and is rapidly dying out - rightly so.
#2 Posted by tahir on April 30, 2008 2:16:25 am
Re: # 1
Dear Parthaab (Singh?),
If you're an athiest, please try praying to the One who has created you, and will eventually take you to task for your blasphemies!
Dear Parthaab (Singh?),
If you're an athiest, please try praying to the One who has created you, and will eventually take you to task for your blasphemies!
#3 Posted by tahir on April 30, 2008 3:20:18 am
Good effort here Mr. Nadeem.
Akram, your surname appears in 96:3 of the Holy Qur'an, the very first revelations. I cannot address you as AKRAM as it means 'the Most Bountiful One'. I'm sure you'll understand me.
Age forty is again that point-of-no-return age mentioned in the Qur'an by which any man should be able to figure out things.
46:15
NOW [among the best of the deeds which] We have enjoined upon man is goodness towards his parents. In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth; and her bearing him and his utter dependence on her took thirty months. And so, when he attains to full maturity and reaches forty years, he [that is righteous] prays: "O my Sustainer! Inspire me so that I may forever be grateful for those blessings of Thine with which Thou hast graced me and my parents, and that I may do what is right [in a manner] that will meet with Thy goodly acceptance; and grant me righteousness in my offspring [as well]. Verily, unto Thee have I turned in repentance: for, verily, I am of those who have surrendered themselves unto Thee!"
--(The Message of the Qur;an: Muhammad Asad)
Old bones are not wanted for the important job. Retired men, who've abused Islam or never attempted to understand it, suddenly find all the time in the world to spend in the mosques. What's the use then?
But look at what Rashad Khalifa's translation says ("anyone who dies before this age goes to Heaven."): http://www.angelfire.com/az2/submission/age40.html
All the athiestic interacters on CHOWK (and the editors) need to realise things; the sooner the better.
Show us that proud Muslim face that only prostrates before Allah, and gladly challenges the agents of Iblees boldly without asking for a reward.
Bless you.
Akram, your surname appears in 96:3 of the Holy Qur'an, the very first revelations. I cannot address you as AKRAM as it means 'the Most Bountiful One'. I'm sure you'll understand me.
Age forty is again that point-of-no-return age mentioned in the Qur'an by which any man should be able to figure out things.
46:15
NOW [among the best of the deeds which] We have enjoined upon man is goodness towards his parents. In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth; and her bearing him and his utter dependence on her took thirty months. And so, when he attains to full maturity and reaches forty years, he [that is righteous] prays: "O my Sustainer! Inspire me so that I may forever be grateful for those blessings of Thine with which Thou hast graced me and my parents, and that I may do what is right [in a manner] that will meet with Thy goodly acceptance; and grant me righteousness in my offspring [as well]. Verily, unto Thee have I turned in repentance: for, verily, I am of those who have surrendered themselves unto Thee!"
--(The Message of the Qur;an: Muhammad Asad)
Old bones are not wanted for the important job. Retired men, who've abused Islam or never attempted to understand it, suddenly find all the time in the world to spend in the mosques. What's the use then?
But look at what Rashad Khalifa's translation says ("anyone who dies before this age goes to Heaven."): http://www.angelfire.com/az2/submission/age40.html
All the athiestic interacters on CHOWK (and the editors) need to realise things; the sooner the better.
Show us that proud Muslim face that only prostrates before Allah, and gladly challenges the agents of Iblees boldly without asking for a reward.
Bless you.
#4 Posted by HPsauce on April 30, 2008 3:43:54 am
Re: # 3 Sie deutsches lapdog Bumsen weg von Ihnen arisches
#5 Posted by HPsauce on April 30, 2008 3:48:15 am
Re: # 3 Pourquoi devons-nous ce Tahir stupide sweinhund lire ? Il écrit s'il vous plaît à la sélection inutile qui dort avec ses propres Mamma et SIS ! quel baiseur idiot de mère il est
#6 Posted by HPsauce on April 30, 2008 4:15:35 am
Re: # 3 tahir chutiya murtid munafiq camel for the arbis
#7 Posted by rf786 on April 30, 2008 4:31:37 am
Dear Mr. Akram
Did the mother Wolf or Giraffe have a religion? What about your ancestors that is if you believe in the theory of evolution?
Why should evolved human beings continue to be slaves to superstitions?
Did the mother Wolf or Giraffe have a religion? What about your ancestors that is if you believe in the theory of evolution?
Why should evolved human beings continue to be slaves to superstitions?
#8 Posted by majumdar on April 30, 2008 4:54:21 am
Arifbhai,
(Why should evolved human beings continue to be slaves to superstitions? )
As you have wisely observed, giraffes and wolves have no religion. But as mammals evolved into humans they developed the need for God and religion.
Regards
(Why should evolved human beings continue to be slaves to superstitions? )
As you have wisely observed, giraffes and wolves have no religion. But as mammals evolved into humans they developed the need for God and religion.
Regards
#9 Posted by tahir on April 30, 2008 5:11:29 am
Perish in your rage atheists, and take a 100 atheists each with you as you burn to ashes...
#10 Posted by majumdar on April 30, 2008 5:16:18 am
Tahir sahib,
I guess you are convinced that all atheists are evil people and agents of the Devil, no?
Regards
I guess you are convinced that all atheists are evil people and agents of the Devil, no?
Regards
#11 Posted by HPsauce on April 30, 2008 5:22:14 am
tahir krochen Sie, das Ihre Mutter bumste, yo Sohn Ihrer Schwester, Rückkehr zum Kiesel Sie heraus von
tahir krochen Sie, das Ihre Mutter bumste, yo Sohn Ihrer Schwester, Rückkehr zum Kiesel Sie heraus von Ihnen und Ihr frommes fervour saugen und sind schlechter als die Dirne, die Sie Ihre Schwester anrufen
tahir krochen Sie, das Ihre Mutter bumste, yo Sohn Ihrer Schwester, Rückkehr zum Kiesel Sie heraus von Ihnen und Ihr frommes fervour saugen und sind schlechter als die Dirne, die Sie Ihre Schwester anrufen
#12 Posted by Kamath on April 30, 2008 6:24:41 am
Akram:
It is one great tragedy that most Muslims are brought upon the belief that there is else in the world to know or learn from - other than Quran, Hadithys and Prophet Mohammad. This has been going on for the past 1400 years.
Tell me why is this addiction? and how many little Islamic paradises have been created on earth by worshipping an absentee Allah? Religion is very important to most but not so much!!
Kamath
It is one great tragedy that most Muslims are brought upon the belief that there is else in the world to know or learn from - other than Quran, Hadithys and Prophet Mohammad. This has been going on for the past 1400 years.
Tell me why is this addiction? and how many little Islamic paradises have been created on earth by worshipping an absentee Allah? Religion is very important to most but not so much!!
Kamath
#13 Posted by laddu on April 30, 2008 6:57:27 pm
"So where do we start? By renewing our vows. "
Hey bhagwan.....for solving every problem you want more Islam......
"We must first try to develop a clear understanding as to what is meant by: “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad"
So, you are clear now??
"Thirty years later, I am just beginning to understand why she called upon her Creator for health, even though the best doctor in town has prescribed her the medicine."
So you want all doctors to speak mumbo jumbo before they adminsiter medicine?
"Each one of us today has developed our own version of Islam. ....Today, millions of people like myself are wondering what to do? We lack faith, are devoid of the basic understanding of our religion and are millions of miles away from being a Muslim."
So, the solution to the problem of corruption is more Islam.....fantastic !!!
"Being a Muslim means more than just offering prayers; it means emulating the life of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and conforming to the dictates of the Holy Quran, not in part or what suits us, but in its totality. And unless we understand the meaning of the Kalima, we don’t stand a chance of redeeming ourselves in this world or the world hereafter."
So, once Shariah is imlemented in toto and all momeens become clones of Prophet all the Pakitan's problem will be solved?
I second the proposal- all Pakis must live under shariah that is strictly implemented.!!
Allahu!!!
Hey bhagwan.....for solving every problem you want more Islam......
"We must first try to develop a clear understanding as to what is meant by: “There is no god but Allah and Muhammad"
So, you are clear now??
"Thirty years later, I am just beginning to understand why she called upon her Creator for health, even though the best doctor in town has prescribed her the medicine."
So you want all doctors to speak mumbo jumbo before they adminsiter medicine?
"Each one of us today has developed our own version of Islam. ....Today, millions of people like myself are wondering what to do? We lack faith, are devoid of the basic understanding of our religion and are millions of miles away from being a Muslim."
So, the solution to the problem of corruption is more Islam.....fantastic !!!
"Being a Muslim means more than just offering prayers; it means emulating the life of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) and conforming to the dictates of the Holy Quran, not in part or what suits us, but in its totality. And unless we understand the meaning of the Kalima, we don’t stand a chance of redeeming ourselves in this world or the world hereafter."
So, once Shariah is imlemented in toto and all momeens become clones of Prophet all the Pakitan's problem will be solved?
I second the proposal- all Pakis must live under shariah that is strictly implemented.!!
Allahu!!!
#14 Posted by Kamath on May 1, 2008 6:44:39 pm
Akram: I said in my earler post, I said,"....It is one great tragedy that most Muslims are brought upon the belief that there is else in the world to know or learn from - other than Quran, Hadithys and Prophet Mohammad. This has been going on for the past 1400 years.,.....
I meant to say,".......It is one great tragedy that most Muslims are brought upon the belief that there is NOTHING else in the world to know or learn from - other than Quran, Hadiths and Prophet Mohammad. This has been going on for the past 1400 years....". Sorry for the oversight.
Kamath
I meant to say,".......It is one great tragedy that most Muslims are brought upon the belief that there is NOTHING else in the world to know or learn from - other than Quran, Hadiths and Prophet Mohammad. This has been going on for the past 1400 years....". Sorry for the oversight.
Kamath
#15 Posted by guru on May 1, 2008 9:18:28 pm
Not really read, so may be out of context.
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We lack faith, are devoid of the basic understanding of our religion and are millions of miles away from being a Muslim.
"
What, when you reached the destination? If I were you when I arrive, I would see whole universe one ... there is no I or you. Observer is same as what is being observed. There is no judgment, no complain, guilt, desire or anguish. In the beginning I might start to fake it till I get it. So, Don't Worry be Happy!
When we drop the book, we might be able to surrender better. Also on this journey it's good to travel lite. The book is unnecessary baggage.
"
We lack faith, are devoid of the basic understanding of our religion and are millions of miles away from being a Muslim.
"
What, when you reached the destination? If I were you when I arrive, I would see whole universe one ... there is no I or you. Observer is same as what is being observed. There is no judgment, no complain, guilt, desire or anguish. In the beginning I might start to fake it till I get it. So, Don't Worry be Happy!
When we drop the book, we might be able to surrender better. Also on this journey it's good to travel lite. The book is unnecessary baggage.
#16 Posted by nkg on May 2, 2008 12:04:34 am
Re: # 13
Laddu...
Hey bhagwan.....for solving every problem you want more Islam......
Ans: A nice Joke...
After consecutive five gold medals at teh Olympic event of rowing, USA team lost to Japan. US sports think tank started analysing the problem and thought of re-organising the team. In stead of 2 manager 8 workers, they have appointed 4 managers and 6 rower. Next time USA lost again. And after further analysis, they had changed the team composition to 6 managers and 4 rowers.Meanwhile Japan maintained a team of 10 workers...and the final outcome you can guess....
Laddu...
Hey bhagwan.....for solving every problem you want more Islam......
Ans: A nice Joke...
After consecutive five gold medals at teh Olympic event of rowing, USA team lost to Japan. US sports think tank started analysing the problem and thought of re-organising the team. In stead of 2 manager 8 workers, they have appointed 4 managers and 6 rower. Next time USA lost again. And after further analysis, they had changed the team composition to 6 managers and 4 rowers.Meanwhile Japan maintained a team of 10 workers...and the final outcome you can guess....
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