30 Days in Afghanistan - Dinner Conversations

You might want to PM Kaalchakra aka Eklavya, he too loves to talk with muslims that only drink aab-e-zamzam, and eat dates.

Its not just about drinking or dancing but more significant is the hypocrisy that exists within the Muslim societies and across different social strata.

{"I will try, as I think most people do, hide my vices. I'm ashamed of them, I try to do them incognito. But here in front of me, is a man, named after the prophet, a director with the firm, toasting to the group, and to my right is another Muslim from Iran, also a director, and the young Pakistani who invited me, all enjoined in the delight of drink. The first director who is from Egypt, is now mimicking a belly dancer, and the women around the table are giggling. He's re-enacting a dance from another recent dinner, where he apparently displayed this skill for the group. He's shaking his pretend breasts, it's all a great big laugh. I'm mustering a half smile, and sick to my stomach....
I don't want to be here, I want to be with the local Afghani's I had dinner with last night, the ones who talked about their families, and of the provinces they came from."]

Naeem,
Thanks for sharing your disgust at the situation and how you felt says a lot about you. You are among the many Muslims, who, while very educated, prosperous, and even "westernized," do not easily succumb to kissing gora rump just to emphasize their "modernity." One of the easiest ways, these kaala angraaiz, that you encountered even in Kabul, choose to demonstate their ass kissing is by drinking to excess and then wanting everyone else to join them in their behavior as aping buffoons lest they themselves look bad. Good for you and your genuinely disgusted feeling and disappointment. I share your views.

Sir,

What are you trying to say in this article?

Sanatani

Naeem, you seem to be judging people about their personal habits. Did they force you to drink with them or did they force you to join the party? If yes, then that would be imprudent and rude. If no, then you have no right to comment on what is essentially what is their private matter.

How are these people to work with? Are they honest? Do they do their job sincerely? Do they work as a good team player. And most importantly, do you succeed as team? If yes, then the rest are trivial issues.

However, I agree with your observation of wastage of food in restaurants, especially when food is scarce in that country.

Re: # 3

salim mian,

why is it that mohammedans are so obsessed with liquor, women and pork ?......... is there nothing else in their religion that is worth talking about ?

...... remember there is nobody more obnoxious than a born again christian, a recovering alcoholic or a guy who gave up smoking ...... their pompous rectitude and self righteousness is more nauseating than a raki hangover .....

..... in any case, this is what the great serbian leader, slobodan milosovic said about the turkish leader alija izetbegovich : "how can you talk to a man who won't sit down and have a drink with you" ......... there is some truth in that apparently silly statement ......

Hamid Saab, would you rather get a buzz on Colt45 here or wait for the most exquisite single malt Scotch in the afterlife? Would you rather be intimate with a few here, or wait for 72 most gorgeous chicks in the afterlife? The choice is yours. I would rather wait. Fruit of patience is very sweet.

#3 Posted by Selim_Chauhan on May 12, 2008 12:41:59 pm


that you encountered even in Kabul, choose to demonstate their ass kissing is by drinking to excess


funny that an alcoholic should be saying that

la'anti issi liyay tou tees saal se jootay kha rahe hain.

Re: # 4 santani;
He is trying to say that he can construct few sentences in english.

Hamidumdum Sahib #6,
Please don't get so angry. My reference to "Kaala Angraiz" was not directed at you. Nothing wrong with drinking, if it doesn't lead to intoxication, bad driving, breaking things, hurting people, or selling one's daughter to finance the daru - as depicted in many Bollywood flicks. Slobodan had a lot of guilt to forget, what's your excuse?

#8 arjun {"funny that an alcoholic should be saying that"}

Arjun,
Do you have any proof? Or do you just take the word of a "Fasadi Runt" as gospel?

Re: # 11

salim mian,

..... there is nothing wrong with an occasional buzz - i find it relaxing and if you don't overdo it is good for your health ....... it can also break the ice between two adversaries - if the turk izetbegovich had not been averse to having a drink with slobodan the two could have worked it out and avoided all that bloodshed ....... in any case, it is a lot better than beating your head on the ground and then getting up to kill infidels and sheep ..........

Hamidumdum Sahib,
Moderation in all things is good. Extremism in all forms, especially religion and nationalism can be horrible - the effects are even worse when alcohol is thrown in the mix. If you recall, your boy Slobodan, got his Chetniks to do many of their cruel deeds under the guise of alcohol. So, try not to drink excessively, but if you must, then please lock up the firearms and hide the car keys.

Hamidm #13 I checked with my doctor on whether a glass of red wine was a good idea to protect the heart, as per popular literature. His asked if I drink. I said no. "Then dont start", was his reply.

and this doc is not one of these bathroom-wetting-foot-in-the-sink maulvi either - he is one of these gora gentleman whom would be a poster boy for Hitler's ubermenschen that you are always telling us about.

As for relaxing - 20 minutes of sweating it out, or taking a short nap, or a short walk, or a hundred other things I can think of is more relaxing than any drink.

But what do I know - I even think that the rule of law is better than the rule of the lawless..

Re: # 6
"how can you talk to a man who won't sit down and have a drink with you"

Exactly what truth resides in this apparently silly statement only a drunkard might know!

How can one talk to a man who won't stand, bow down and prostrate with you in salaah?