Ahmer Muzammil April 30, 2008
#131 Posted by akcheema on May 9, 2008 7:13:57 am
Re: # 130
sorry forgot to say
KHUDA HAFIZ and see you soon...no doubt
sorry forgot to say
KHUDA HAFIZ and see you soon...no doubt
#130 Posted by akcheema on May 9, 2008 7:11:13 am
Re: # 129; btw tahmed
when one is hungry, just read up on the biochemical responses in the body...it is all about 'survival'.
those trying to 'survive' couldn't give a monkey's toss about the CJ/Lawyer's movement or similar western-generated terms that you keep hammering on about
time to go....enjoy
when one is hungry, just read up on the biochemical responses in the body...it is all about 'survival'.
those trying to 'survive' couldn't give a monkey's toss about the CJ/Lawyer's movement or similar western-generated terms that you keep hammering on about
time to go....enjoy
#129 Posted by akcheema on May 9, 2008 7:08:09 am
Re: # 127; tahmed
The so-called CJs and lawyers originate in that same society rife with corruption and neputism; have you ever thought how the CJ got there in the first place?
Unless the fundamentals that run a society are changed, it is all whitewash on the surface; for apologetics like yourselves to be 'presentable' in the world; I keep repeating this sentence but nobody seems to listen:
REALITY ON THE GROUND IS VERY DIFFERENT!!
Like i said, get a reality check before you go on; also feel free to dismount that high horse of yours too...in your own time
The so-called CJs and lawyers originate in that same society rife with corruption and neputism; have you ever thought how the CJ got there in the first place?
Unless the fundamentals that run a society are changed, it is all whitewash on the surface; for apologetics like yourselves to be 'presentable' in the world; I keep repeating this sentence but nobody seems to listen:
REALITY ON THE GROUND IS VERY DIFFERENT!!
Like i said, get a reality check before you go on; also feel free to dismount that high horse of yours too...in your own time
#128 Posted by arjun_5 on May 9, 2008 7:05:06 am
prophetboy...
Call in Senate for change in pro-US foreign policy
By Raja Asghar
ISLAMABAD, May 8: Both friends and foes of the new government urged it during a Senate debate on Thursday to review what many saw as a pro-US foreign policy charted by a military-led establishment, which the coalition-leading Pakistan People’s Party said it would not become part of.
Senators from Islamic parties, majority of whom are allies of Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani’s 40-day-old coalition government, were most vehement in demanding that Pakistan withdraw from the US-led so-called war against terrorism while most of others who spoke in the inconclusive debate wanted changes to make the foreign policy independent of American dictation and for initiatives to end the scourge of pro-Taliban militancy in the country, particularly in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.
Call in Senate for change in pro-US foreign policy
By Raja Asghar
ISLAMABAD, May 8: Both friends and foes of the new government urged it during a Senate debate on Thursday to review what many saw as a pro-US foreign policy charted by a military-led establishment, which the coalition-leading Pakistan People’s Party said it would not become part of.
Senators from Islamic parties, majority of whom are allies of Prime Minister Syed Yousuf Raza Gilani’s 40-day-old coalition government, were most vehement in demanding that Pakistan withdraw from the US-led so-called war against terrorism while most of others who spoke in the inconclusive debate wanted changes to make the foreign policy independent of American dictation and for initiatives to end the scourge of pro-Taliban militancy in the country, particularly in tribal areas bordering Afghanistan.
#127 Posted by tahmed32 on May 9, 2008 7:00:27 am
#126 thanks for trying to educate me. seems to me you could use some education yourself when you wrote earlier "what makes people think the poor man who can't even afford to buy 'roti' for himself and his family even understands the concepts such as "civil society", "lawyer's movement". Why should that poor man give a damn about that idiotic looking CJ or his re-instatement."
Do you know where, after decades of experience nf controversy, there hss arisen a universal consensus on international development agencies on the pre-requisite for a nation's progress?
Answer: Good governance.
And do you understand what "good governance" means? The rule of law!
What the entire movement in Pakistan has been about. So, with all due respect to the lofty heights that you and hamidm are sitting on with the help of visas, the fact is that average Pakistani whom you two loook down upon on is better educated and has more common sense than both of you.
Do you know where, after decades of experience nf controversy, there hss arisen a universal consensus on international development agencies on the pre-requisite for a nation's progress?
Answer: Good governance.
And do you understand what "good governance" means? The rule of law!
What the entire movement in Pakistan has been about. So, with all due respect to the lofty heights that you and hamidm are sitting on with the help of visas, the fact is that average Pakistani whom you two loook down upon on is better educated and has more common sense than both of you.
#126 Posted by akcheema on May 9, 2008 6:48:00 am
Re: # 123; tahmed,
there is absolutely nothing there that would insult any pakistani; calling a poor man poor? calling the brown-elite, brown-elite? get real!!
Here is an article by Tariq Ali you might find enlightening:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/my-heart-bleeds-fo r-pakistan-it-deserves-better-than-this-grotesque-feudal-charade-767423.html
there is absolutely nothing there that would insult any pakistani; calling a poor man poor? calling the brown-elite, brown-elite? get real!!
Here is an article by Tariq Ali you might find enlightening:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/my-heart-bleeds-fo r-pakistan-it-deserves-better-than-this-grotesque-feudal-charade-767423.html
#125 Posted by tahmed32 on May 9, 2008 6:46:39 am
snd hamidm has disappeared rather than face the fact that he is an idiot.
#124 Posted by arjun_5 on May 9, 2008 6:45:20 am
#115 Posted by zeemax on May 9, 2008 6:33:05 am
scissor salesman: did you see the billionaires list from your old home, the united kingdom? The guy you were laughing at...laxmi mittal..did you see how much his net worth has grown..
you know...if you work really hard and keep your nose clean, mr mittal may hire you as a driver...diver for his chauffeur.
scissor salesman: did you see the billionaires list from your old home, the united kingdom? The guy you were laughing at...laxmi mittal..did you see how much his net worth has grown..
you know...if you work really hard and keep your nose clean, mr mittal may hire you as a driver...diver for his chauffeur.
#122 Posted by akcheema on May 9, 2008 6:41:27 am
Re: # 121;tahmed
who am I supposed to have insulted now?
who am I supposed to have insulted now?
#121 Posted by tahmed32 on May 9, 2008 6:39:08 am
#120 you dont know what i have or have not contributed to the motherland, so you are merely blowing hot air. but i know what you have contributed - insults.
#120 Posted by akcheema on May 9, 2008 6:37:34 am
Re: # 113; tahmed
you and others can delude yourselves as much as you want; as far as I can ascertain, none of you have contributed anything of practical value to what you describe as your motherland
empty on-line debates between english-speaking ex-subjects of goras are extremely unlikely(if not impossible) to yield anything worth talking about
you and others can delude yourselves as much as you want; as far as I can ascertain, none of you have contributed anything of practical value to what you describe as your motherland
empty on-line debates between english-speaking ex-subjects of goras are extremely unlikely(if not impossible) to yield anything worth talking about
#119 Posted by tahmed32 on May 9, 2008 6:36:00 am
#115 zeemax: greetings. i am still hoping to get a straight answer from hamidm. but he is too busy putting up the clown-and-monkey show.
#118 Posted by tahmed32 on May 9, 2008 6:34:53 am
#114 aah..the monkey-man has joined the two clowns!
#116 Posted by tahmed32 on May 9, 2008 6:34:16 am
cheema: like i told hamidm, unless you have something to gain, you are like the idiot who applauds bandits robbing him of what belongs to him.
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