Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul

Nkg,

You must dig up chowk's archives and read posts by Yasser (nicks- Mantiolives/YLH) on MKG. Your eyes will be opened. He has proven beyond doubt that MKG was a Hindu rcaist, casteist, fascist, misogynist bigoted freak.

Regards

Re: # 67
VRV...
The basic technology of civilisation is provided by civil engineering companies. Civil and Mechanical engineering is mother of all engineering and technology. It creates the backbone of nation- Dam, Roads, bridges etc...During 1947, what other technology do you expect them to produce? Color TV, Refrigerator, Digital Camera?
Burns Standard, Bridge & Roof, Martin Burn etc. were pioneer in construction and railway engineering. Howrah Bridge was the largest cantelever construction in Asia..Thanks to the Bengali Engineers and Bihari workers...
The steel industry, chemical industry were adversely impacted by British exodus...
A vibrant industry was killed by Gandhi and his disciple Nehru to suppress Bengalees...What you are seeing now is the result of successful poisoning by cow belt leaders Gandhi and Nehru...
Regarding IITs...
Nehru had nothing to do with Technology. His father was servant under a moslem lawyear. During those days, lawyears used to earn more money than any other profession. Motilal somehow managed money and sent his son to study in UK. Before becoming PM), Nehru had no interaction with Technology.
IIT saga started with Dr. B C Roy. The premier engineering institute at that time was Bengal Engineering College, Sibpur, Howrah ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengal_Engineering_and_Science_University,_Shibpur) . It used to get technical assistance from Manchester University ( one of the poineer institutes in UK). Dr. Roy was closely associated with B E College and wanted to create similar institute in West Bengal. Brits had just left India. So, instead of relying on Manchester University, he wanted similar institute in USA and opted for MIT. The first IIT was setup in Kharagput with help of MIT. It was replicated later...
Regarding work culture...British had invested most in Bengal. If Bengalis were averse to work, then how come these industries were flourishing. What was the first steel plant in India? IISCO- Burnpur. The same work culture of Bengalis made them number one state during British rule and after 1947 Bengali work culture got changed!!!
Yes Mr. VRV, Gandhi needs peace....
Such a mass murderer needs peace!!!
Do you know, how many people of East Bengal were displaced, how many people were killed during 194xs? Who was responsible for large refugee influx into West Bengal?
http://www.bengalvoice.com/uproot_chapter6.htm

Gandhi was a petty lawyear. He had no extra-ordinary quality in any field (good academician? No. Extra-ordinary legal professional? No...). To be a leader, you need something above average talent, such that people respect you and follow you. When he was kicked in South Africa, he had realised the need of freedom and problem of racism!!! And you make such a person (needs to be kicked to teach- laton ka bhoot), father of a nation with 4000 years of civilisational history!!! Gandhi was pure baniya and with the people interaction skill,he was quite aware that majority of Indians dislike violence. If common people would have preferred that path, islamic invaders would have been kicked long back as well as these Brits...So, he had toes with the public sentiment...
Vengat, Gandhi was not proponent of peace. He had adopted the path, Indians prefer and earned fame...

Kaal bhai,

(Adieu Gandhi and Gandhism. May you prosper in the rest of the world. We will miss you but like any good parent, India must part with your for your own good.)

I have already offered Zee sahib an exchange scheme. Pakistan exports all its kanjars, kanjaris and mirasis to us, in turn we export our mullahs, Gandhians and Marxists to Pak.

Regards

VRV,

(You guys kill him everyday. )

And his followers dont follow him.

Regards

I am glad that her ashes will touch the Indus River.

Ras

Both Larsen and Toubro were not British. Started as ship boiler repair shop. Both took voluntary retirement in 1950s. They did not have great engineering or business background. This was their first venture. Genius was puting Inidan management in place and giving 100% control to it. Professional managers and technocrats built this highly professional organization. It was/is Indian company from the beginning.

Infact they got large BARC contracts some very stealth ones.

JN may not have been the best of the leaders of that time, when compared to stalwarts such as Subhash Chandra, Vallabhai Patel, Rajaji and few others, but he was defnitely in league because of his vision, sacrifice and dedication. Little vain and foolish dreamer in the world politics. Definitely created solid industrial base for India.

Tata & Birla actually had a free ride because of license raj, so became lazy.

India could not have become S. Korea because Angloes always felt threatened by civilizational India and socialistic argumentative Indian. We might have turned into Bakiland if we had not used Soviets well. Pl give some credit to JN and his daughter. His daughter was the only real man who ruled India since 66. Narsimha Rao comes close second in statesmanship and shrudeness. Tactical Baki leaders which includes MAJ & Bhutto are not worth comparing to these three.

#55 Posted by nkg on May 5, 2008 5:54:28 am

'Kicked all the British owned companies (construction companies), which used to provide technological backbone.'

Constrcution companies providing technological backbone? Give some other points. It's laughable that construcution companies are tech backbones!


'Today you are seeing L & T etc...Calcutta/Howrah was host of such companies, which was number one in Asia (Burns Standards etc...).'

What I saw in Calcutta is nothing but the graveyards of the bygone era. Do some introspection as to what ppl say abt Beganali work culture. (Have u heard this? Bengalis are like sperm, one in a million work). If companies were closed, it's only becoz of the host of non-Nehru reasons. Pl find some other scape-goat.


'The IIT, constitution etc...was brainchild of Bengal Congress leaders (Dr. B C Roy); which people give credit to Nehru...'

Boy nkg, even Ambedkar shud not be given credit for the Constitution. He's just the Head od the body! Need no elaboration.

'Regarding Nathuram Godse...Gandhi was supposed to be killed. So much bloodshed, and he will evade it!!!! But this poor chap made it very early. Gandhi was supposed to see his unpopularity and then die...Poor chap had not allowed that... '

Godse killed Gandhi once but ppl like u never seem to let him rest in peace. You guys kill him everyday.

Re: # 62

Eklavya brother,

Your wish my fortune.

He is seen as the main reason of uncontrolled immigration problem, Bengal is currently facing.

ROFL. yeah right. also blame Gandhi for the rising gas prices.

majumdar, venkat,

I've been reading the interacts (esp. arjun and hamid's for a few laughs), but work was keeping me busy.

I think people have to open up and at least read / listen to what the other side is saying. My principle has been to read all the viewpoints, and see what makes sense for me. Ofcourse, anyone reading the same stuff can reach a different conclusion.

I am borrowing Orwell's words.

http://www.readprint.com/work-1260/George-Orwell

One may feel, as I do, a sort of aesthetic distaste for Gandhi, one may reject the claims of sainthood made on his behalf (he never made any such claim himself, by the way), one may also reject sainthood as an ideal and therefore feel that Gandhi's basic aims were anti-human and reactionary: but regarded simply as a politician, and compared with the other leading political figures of our time, how clean a smell he has managed to leave behind!

My uncle( maternal) was working for GOI, ministry of Supply. This Dept. used to supply equipment and materials for Govt. Projects. The noticable change he observed was the creeping in corruption in the Govt. mechinery. People used to get scared of Brit officers. They used to think twice before committing any crime. As soon as they have left, entire Indian administration started becoming corrupt and, when Indira Gandhi become prime minister, it had become part and parcel of our life. All this happened as the leaders were corrupt (Congress), including Nehru...
Coming back to Nirmala Deshpande,what legacy is she leaving for Indians? We are not sure about it.
The Gandhian myth is creation of Congress and media. Our value system developed over thousands of years. Making Gandhi father of nation is too much....For us ( Bengalis), his contribution is almost 0. He is seen as the main reason of uncontrolled immigration problem, Bengal is currently facing. Furthermore, his dirty politics with Subhash Bose makes him villain than hero...

vengat bhai, at some time we must discuss this fighting the oppressors business and how or whether it is not related to religion, or whether Subhash Bose was the same as Osama bin Laden. :)

Re: # 54
VRV...
Tatas, Birlas grew inspite of the bureacracy inherited from the British Indian govt. Nehru never crippled them. If
Ans: Those business family, who were close to Congress got favourable treatment and enjoyed the monopoly. Gandhi was a baniya and was close to both Bajaj and Birlas. They have done nothing towards Industrial development in India...
Toyota and Hindustan Motors started production in the same year. Now Toyota is No. 1 Automaker of the world and Hindustan Motors stooped producing it's own model and assembler of Mitsubishi cars...

Re: # 58
Vengat...
Civilian/Non-Civilian ideas were bored into our craniums by the whites.
Ans: Not at all....
It was purely Indian concept right from Ramayana era... later UN adopted it...

Masanamuthu,

Long time no see :(...

Re: # 51

nkg,

Moplahs fought their opressors. Subash did the same, he fought the opressors.

Civilian/Non-Civilian ideas were bored into our craniums by the whites. It helped them to decide where, when, how and whom to fight. So they kept the rest of the population anticipating. Now they are getting their taste of their own medicine.