Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul

Guru, Vengat...

I am not aganist Gandhi. Every person is fallible. So was Gandhi. He knew public sentiment and so was able to transform elitist movement of Congress into the common masses . Both Congress and ML had problem with interaction with masses. ML had the weapon of Islam to connect to muslims. They have used it properly (Islam is in danger etc...) and it is no surprise that Pakistan is doomed into a islamic state rather than state for muslims....
On the other hand, Congress had no such tool. You can not say Hinduism is in danger (it does not work). So, Congress have to use Gandhi and his acting (single cloth, travelling in second class...) to bring commoners in their fold. It will not be outragious to say, Laloo is the politician who uses the mathod quite effectively.
Lalloo has created an effective image of an non-elite.
A 4000 year old civilisation does not need any "Father of Nation". It is against the ethos of Indian culture. This is kind of islamisation (prophet concept)....

Nkg,

I think you are right, apart from Jayakanthan we do not have many to boast in the literary world. I will even go as far to accept the rest of India's population is culturally and intellectually superior. What Tamilnadu has achieved and others have not is social amity and self respect. Though it was achieved at a great cost to the upper castes, I would still rate it as one of the best things to have happened to the world.

Even, at this point of time, the lower caste people of Tamilnadu has far more to catch up with the upper castes of the rest of India. What is remarkable is, the belief in them that they can achieve intellectual and cultural parity. They have proudly defended their language and they have not indulged in religious animosity. This, I believe, is where tehe rest of India has failed. Appropriate credit has to be given to the upper castes of Tamilnadu for contributing to the social revolution.

We will come to a point where we will have no more frustrated kids, of any caste.

#181 by nkg

BJP is for migration of Bengali Hindus into West Bengal.
Congress, TC and CPI(M) for everybody....

The question is not whether we should allow Bangladeshis, it is whether it is being done legally. The commies simply need votebanks and the illegal B'deshi migrants fulfil that need nicely.

I agree with Majumdar bhai that India has the moral obligation towards Hindus in Pakistan/B'desh.

Nkg,

(BJP is for migration of Bengali Hindus into West Bengal.)

BJP is right. If Hindoos are persecuted in Pak/B'desh we have a moral obligation to provide them shelter.

Regards

Re: # 178
Haris
It is not monopoly of CPI(M)...
BJP is for migration of Bengali Hindus into West Bengal.
Congress, TC and CPI(M) for everybody....

Re: # 176
Guru...
Gandhi died at ripe age (more than 75). How much more time you want to give a person?
Gandhi had the full support structure with him- Congress party with its cadres - Bajaj, Birla with their money. Still he is not icon. Majority of Indians follow different icon. Isn't it a matter of shame for a "father of nation"?
Compare the life of Swami Vivekananda. How within 39 years of life span, he had created an instution ( R K Mission), which without any Govt. support or support from business class flourished...

Nkg,

I for one don't want to kick out any INDIAN Muslim from India. But there was no need to invite Bong Muslims who believe in the TNT to settle down in India.

Re: Nobels

RNT got the Nobel 'cos the Brits wanted to mollify the Bongs from leading the freedom movement. The Bongs were pretty p***ed off becuase of the partition business.

AS- Remember the year before AS got the Nobel, the Nobel had gone to the guys who formulated the Black Scholes equation for derivative pricing. These gentlemen were also bosses of a company called LTCM which went bust shortly after they got the Nobel. The Nobel people ended up with lots of eggs on their faces and to cover up their shame were looking for someone who writes on development economics. Now no one writes on development economics except muddle headed folks like Amartya Sen and Mohammed Asadi and given the quality of competition, it was no wonder that Amartya Sen won out.

I hope I have explained.

Regards

#177 by nkg

Yaar I saw a documentary series on NDTV which showed how local authorities from the CPI prepared voter and ration cards for infiltrators and helped them settle so that they could bolster their votebanks.

Anyways, I don't what to label Bongs wholesale as you have done to Tamilians. I've met Majumdar bhai and he's a gem of a person.

Kalam, Haris, Majumder...
Ans: This 2.5 crore people you have to receive due to the following reason...
1. The Hindus of Bangladesh had committed no crime such that they have to suffer in a moslem country. So, they have to be rehabilitated in India.

2. Bengalis are not barbaric like moslems, such that they will kick out moslems from West Bengal. This is our nature. I think, will you kick out minority mislims into some other country.

3. The ration card/voter Id card is controlled by loac bodies in West Bengal. The Bangladeshi moslems come to India in the pretext of health and other purpose and settle in muslim majority areas. The local muslims in border districts help migrate Bangladeshi muslims. It is not in the hand of us ( non Bangladeshi Hindus living in West bengal)...
BSF is very corrupt. Pay 200INR, they will allow Bangladeshis to enter India without any document. After that, how will you identify whether the person is Indian or Bangladeshi and how will you deport him/her? It is very difficult situation...

I have nothing against JJ or APJ. I dislike the hype created around APJ.

RNT had written national anthem of two nations. It is no mean feat. AS was nominated for Noble couple of times. I am not aware of any political connection, which helped them winning the noble.Majumder please elaborate...

Re: # 163: Nkg,

Genius of Gandhi is not in new ideas or the wordsmithy about them in debating clubs like other his contemparies. He put them in practice like Ramkrishna became Muslim, Christians etc for a while. Other important is his ability to take simple ideas to the unwashed masses,eg cleaning latrines by higher castes. I wish he also had started working on Sulabh Sauchalaya, and so no one has to carry night soil. As Harish said if he had little more time to live he would have done that as well.

My dear student nkg,

See this senility made me forget, what I wanted to tell you...Agni could not have pin-pointedly hit a bus full of Agri students, you know, but Amma, you know, can do that more precisely...

Thats the reason out wise Tamil population always prostrate before Amma. You are insulting our Amma, when you say she had to support her family. You know her dad was a doctor with Mysore Maharaja and her mother a musician WITH Mysore Maharaja too.

My dear student nkg(even if you were not under my tutelage, you are learning isn't it),

I know you are surprised, why this old man without any achievement speaks to me. I will tell you my boy. I am not feeling bad when you say I am an underachiever, I feel bad only when you put me and JJ madam on the same plane.

How I can be equal to that Madam, my student dear...Afterall I just fine tune some missile navigation systems, which other scientist had done by then...You know this Bhagavatham and Thevaram has made me like this.

You know there is nothing big about Agni when you compare to Amma's potentialities. The other day my dear student nkg, when Amma JJ got convicted by the court, a bus full of Agri graduates were on their educational tour. Amma's devotees burnt the bus and three beautiful children (girls) were charred. You see how powerful Amma is...If I had done this deed, it would have caused so much pain. But see Amma, she is as beautiful as she was before burning the bus...She still smiles...That is the mark of a good leader , my dear student.

When you say Tamils are insane, why these insane Tamils are getting angry at you. In the name of Bhagwan and my Vision 2020 these guys should stop hurting you...

God bless you my student...When you are free I can teacj you Veenai too...:)

Nkg,

The only Nobel laureates from Bongland, RNT and AS got for Lit and Eco and as we know very well these are politically motivated. The two Tams who got it, CVR and Chandrashekhar got it for Physics which are not awarded on a biassed manner.

Why is WB's population a disadvantage. More people means more economic units (producers and consumers) provided these people are not lazy fools like Bongs.

Regards

#170 by nkg

With 2.5 crore ( at least) aditional population for a small state like Bengal, it is doing quite good.

And who welcomes those 2.5 crore additional people, giving them voter ID and ration cards? The very commies you elect term after term. Why blame them?

#170 by nkg

Only living Noble Laurate from India is a Bengali :-)

When Sir CV Raman was alive, he was the only living Nobel Laureate from India and a Tamilian too. What does it prove?

I bet if Prof Amartya Sen had remained in Bengal, he would have turned out to be another chain-smoking commie loving gentleman :-)

Majumder, Haris...
Ans: Way ahead of Bongs!!! With 2.5 crore ( at least) aditional population for a small state like Bengal, it is doing quite good.


Only living Noble Laurate from India is a Bengali :-)