Nirmala Deshpande - A Truly Great Soul

Maj Bhai,

It is so beautiful that the 1st 3 letters of your name are the same as Shri J Sahib.

This Mo fkr Vengatraman seems to be a commie thug parroting commie nonsense like Shaivites killing Vaishnavaites

They have no proof of the same and yet parrot these innanities.

Thanks to J Man we have a clear Hindu state albeit one where we will lose Asom, North East and Bengal due to infiltration.

Regards
Sanatani

Re: # 131
Vengat...

"A few days back I saw a news item on a self-sustaining British village. Looks like Gandhi was not only ahead of his contemporaries but our contemporaries too."

Ans: Self sustaining,village based society was in India for long time. Indian society was very much harmonius with nature. Now, with large amount of population, we may not be able to sustain with the same model...

Re: # 140
VRV...
Ans: I don't like Gandhi. That does not imply that, I like Jinnah...

"Gandhi's political, economic ideas are not feasible but social ideas are very much necessary else there'd be more caste fissures that're comparable with Hindu-Muslim detente."

What new social idea Gandhi had brought into India, and what was the repercussion on Indian society?
The "ahimsa" and "class/caste equality" was part and parcell of Jains and Budhdhists and later Vaisnav movement followed that...
Gandhis "brahmacharya" was really funny. He was not born Brahmachari. He fathered so many children ( I can not prove Harilal etc.. were his biological son). And suddenly he decided to be brahmachari!!!
Ramakrishna Paramhansa had shown, how you can be brahmachari as well as living a perfect social life.If "brahmacharya" does not come to you naturally, then practise yoga (was it Sukracharya, who pioneered it?)...
Entire life of Gandhi is full of hypocracy and nice acting. That is the reason, though GOI pushes Gandhi to the largest extent (Father of Nation), it bears no meaning in common Indian mind. In each region, the religious leaders and social reformers get more respect than Gandhi...

Amogst Dalits - B R Ambedkar, Budhdha
Amongst Bongs - Ramakrishna/Vivekananda, Subhash Bose
Amongst Gujjus - Sardar Patel and Swaminarayan organisation and RSS is more acceptable
Amongst Maharastrians - Shivaji
Amongst South Indians- Perriyer, Sir MV...

R K Mission,Mata Amritanandamayee, Swaminarayan movement have more followers than the Ashramas in the name of Gandhi. That tells the truth....

Re: # 137
VRV...
The list of things u gave are good but do u think that Indian schools dont teach abt the great ppl u mentioned? If so then u are not educated in India. If u think that the works of those ppl ALONE be taught then u better live in a cocoon.

Ans: You are not correct. During my 10th standard, as part of math, I was learning the Sridhar Upapadya ( Quadratic Equation). I was not knowing who this Sridhar Acharya was and assumed that he must be some one from Calcutta University (for people of our village Cal University was best institution in India and may be in Asia (in mid 80s)). I have learned about him from internet, later.
History of science section (6th and 7th standard) do not cover Indian mathematicians or scientists of ancient age. The school environment is such that, math is an alien subject imported from West.

How amazing indian Mathematics was in ancient time check this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZKOPKIHsrc

Indian schools teach more about Hyppocrete than Charak or Sushruta. In West Bengal, the Govt. is trying to kill Sanskrit by not filling the vacancies in school level. This will eventually dry up the supply of students in higher education and then we will turn into another Pakistan. History of Pakistan starts with Arab invastion and history of India will start with Congress, Mohandas Gandhi and to appease moslems, Mughal and mediaval period will be there with distorted version.
India govt. wastes money on urdooo and madressah education and the present Govt. is trying to ban Yoga and Saraswati Vandana from schools. Govt. funds is used to breed more terrorist/islamist and ignore the health aspect of the student...

You will feel actual India in South (including Orissa). May be it is true in North East also (Assam, Nagaland, Manipur etc...).
Each state has their own culture, rich with style of painting, dance form, music and beautiful architecture. The women folk are liberated. You will not find veil system there.

Remixed IGiri Nandini...enjoy in your pastime...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP8lJPp-N94&feature=related

Re: # 138 dada

This is NOT about gandhi and jinnah - this is about people... does not matter what j-man said - pakis wanted an islamic dar-ul-islam and so they should have that, they have no reason to follow so-called secular intentions that J-man may or may not have...

On the otherhand - people of india in general and hinuds in particular have always wanted a "secular" polity, which what they should have... regardless of what G-man may ahve said...

You are the one who puts too much focus on long dead personalities... you and YLH... let it go...

#145 by akcheema

May be we are talking about the 'working' class of the colonials?

Again no idea Cheema bhai, but I guess Muslims then were more rigid than they are now about such things.

akcheema,

A politician doesnt have to know anything and still suck. You know we have a fulllly endowed opposition leader Jayalalithaa, in Tamilnadu, who regularly bark inanities.

1. She would parrot how dangerous the India - US nuclear deal going to be without really knowing what the deal is all about

2. She would pose before TV cameras on her meeting with Ernst&Young consultants .....LOL

3. The one that takes the cake is how great she was in her academics. Though I dont give much importance to academic credential, this lady claims to super achievements when she is just a school dropout.

4. When speaks about Tamil culture and chastity, it is difficult saab to go og....

Jinnah was miles ahead of the contemporary politicians we have now.....Shameful existence we have now...

#143 by majumdar

MAJ (pbuh) espoused the separatist path very very late only in 1930s, he had been active in political life long before that.

Majumdar bhai, how does that change the fact that he used blatantly communal and provocative rhetoric and just one dishonest speech was not going to undo the legacy of hate he spawned?

Re: # 144; harish

I don't like ham sandwiches; so working class.

May be we are talking about the 'working' class of the colonials?

Khuda Hafiz

#142 by akcheema

I have no idea Cheema bhai, but it was perhaps a ploy to buttress his Muslim credentials as at that time he wasn't very popular with the ordinary Muslim because of his fondness for Ham sandwiches and whisky.

VRV,

(I'd shoot all these mothefukkas (Godseites) in one go )

Spoken like a true Gandhian!!!

Harishbhai,

MAJ (pbuh) espoused the separatist path very very late only in 1930s, he had been active in political life long before that.

Regards

Re: # 141; harish
"Jinnah raised slogans such as "Islam khatre mein", "Koran contains the complete way of life" etc"

Excuse the French but what the f... did Jinah know about what was written in the Koran!

#138 by majumdar

And Pakistanis disavow Jinnah's legacy including the principles laid down in his 8/11 speech.

All his life (well at least after he joined the ML, before which he was an insignificant non-practising Muslim (at least for the Muslim masses)) Jinnah raised slogans such as "Islam khatre mein", "Koran contains the complete way of life" etc. aimed at inciting Muslim masses, and to expect one hollow speech to guide Pakistan's future is like sowing a Pudine ka beej and expecting a Banyan tree to sprout out of it.

Majumdar,

That makes sense but the quid pro quo is quite funny. U dont attack Gandhi but u Godseites bat for Jinnah??????

I love peace but given a choice I'd shoot all these mothefukkas (Godseites) in one go as a one-off measure.

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Gandhi's political, economic ideas are not feasible but social ideas are very much necessary else there'd be more caste fissures that're comparable with Hindu-Muslim detente.

Majumdar,

"Also you guys admit that although MKG was a great man, his ideas should not be followed either by us in our personal life or by India politically, socially or economically."

We don't have to. When people of your ideas get to rule, do whatever you want. Till then remember you live in a democracy where the numbers count...

VRV,

Let us make peace. We, the Godseites (sic) give up attacking MKG and you guys give up attacking MAJ (pbuh). Also you guys admit that although MKG was a great man, his ideas should not be followed either by us in our personal life or by India politically, socially or economically. And Pakistanis disavow Jinnah's legacy including the principles laid down in his 8/11 speech.

Regards