Vaibhav Jain May 5, 2008
#9 Posted by Mr.India on May 9, 2008 5:59:18 am
The term Tajmahal itself never occurs in any mogul court paper or chronicle even in Aurangzeb's time. The attempt to explain it away as Taj-i-mahal is therefore, ridiculous.
2.The ending "Mahal"is never muslim because in none of the muslim countries around the world from Afghanistan to Algeria is there a building known as "Mahal".
3.The unusual explanation of the term Tajmahal derives from Mumtaz Mahal, who is buried in it, is illogical in at least two respects viz., firstly her name was never Mumtaj Mahal but Mumtaz-ul-Zamani and secondly one cannot omit the first three letters "Mum" from a woman's name to derive the remainder as the name of the building
#8 Posted by laddu on May 9, 2008 5:34:16 am
Vaibhav,
I doubt you even understand your own Jinna-Dharma. It is one of the most sophisticated of hindu thought.
It's Syad-vada, Anekanta-vada, the atomic theory of karma particles and the entire yogic system of nirjara to achieve liberation is indeed beyond you!!!
I doubt you even understand your own Jinna-Dharma. It is one of the most sophisticated of hindu thought.
It's Syad-vada, Anekanta-vada, the atomic theory of karma particles and the entire yogic system of nirjara to achieve liberation is indeed beyond you!!!
#7 Posted by laddu on May 9, 2008 5:29:30 am
Hindutva CANNOT replace hinduism .
Hindutva cannot be a substitute for 'Sanatan Dharma' but it does provide political conditions necessary for the re-sugence of Hinduism.
Hindutva is necessary to check mate the rise of Islamic Fascism in India and the momeen hordes.
Hindutva is a necessary political philosophy to protect Hinduism.
Hindutva are the neo-kshatriyas for hindiusm and it must be in good condition for hinduism to survive!!
Hindutva cannot be a substitute for 'Sanatan Dharma' but it does provide political conditions necessary for the re-sugence of Hinduism.
Hindutva is necessary to check mate the rise of Islamic Fascism in India and the momeen hordes.
Hindutva is a necessary political philosophy to protect Hinduism.
Hindutva are the neo-kshatriyas for hindiusm and it must be in good condition for hinduism to survive!!
#6 Posted by laddu on May 9, 2008 5:21:13 am
"A central minister of the former BJP-led government writes, “For centuries wherever Islam actually ruled it had been sacrilegious and traitorous to study, develop or propagate ....” 14."
I am surprised that you have little understanding of Islam and its political history in India!!
You have to read the law of Dhimmitude and the way the India was divided into Zimmi-dari where the Nawabs were given Zimma for the Zimmis in a particular jurisdiction- the Nawabs aimed at collecting specific KHARAJ on behalf of the Muslim Badshah in Delhi.
There were little relaxations when it came to re-construction of temples defiled by the momeen hordes - Go to those temples in North or even south- you would find the defiled and dis-membered statutes still on the Gopurams and temple pillars.
They remained dis-figured because the law of dhimmi-tude DOES NOT ALLOW for reconstruction of the defiled temples.
Islam simply DOES NOT ALLOW for propagation of dhimmi religion in the occupied land. Dhimmis have to be extra careful if they attempt to do so and can be killed any time if they try it.
I am surprised that you have little understanding of Islam and its political history in India!!
You have to read the law of Dhimmitude and the way the India was divided into Zimmi-dari where the Nawabs were given Zimma for the Zimmis in a particular jurisdiction- the Nawabs aimed at collecting specific KHARAJ on behalf of the Muslim Badshah in Delhi.
There were little relaxations when it came to re-construction of temples defiled by the momeen hordes - Go to those temples in North or even south- you would find the defiled and dis-membered statutes still on the Gopurams and temple pillars.
They remained dis-figured because the law of dhimmi-tude DOES NOT ALLOW for reconstruction of the defiled temples.
Islam simply DOES NOT ALLOW for propagation of dhimmi religion in the occupied land. Dhimmis have to be extra careful if they attempt to do so and can be killed any time if they try it.
#5 Posted by laddu on May 9, 2008 5:09:33 am
"
Hindutva is the ideology of a section of the lower middle class. It feeds off of an anger that has embedded itself in their consciousness."
You can make the same statement for Communism or Islamism.
But I am disappointed because you have neither been able to succesfully understand and segregate the twin concepts of "Hindutva" which is essentially a political and 'social' concpet of RSS and that of 'Hinduism' or Sanatan Dharma which have clear common philosophical threads of liberation, karma, transmigration through renunciation (vairagya), meditation (dhyana) and knowledge (jnana).
RSS and their "Hindutva" is NOT 'Hinduism' and confusing the two is a very common strategy by the commies to erect the strawman before accusing it of all sorts of things!!
Hindutva is the ideology of a section of the lower middle class. It feeds off of an anger that has embedded itself in their consciousness."
You can make the same statement for Communism or Islamism.
But I am disappointed because you have neither been able to succesfully understand and segregate the twin concepts of "Hindutva" which is essentially a political and 'social' concpet of RSS and that of 'Hinduism' or Sanatan Dharma which have clear common philosophical threads of liberation, karma, transmigration through renunciation (vairagya), meditation (dhyana) and knowledge (jnana).
RSS and their "Hindutva" is NOT 'Hinduism' and confusing the two is a very common strategy by the commies to erect the strawman before accusing it of all sorts of things!!
#4 Posted by Kalam on May 9, 2008 4:41:43 am
Re: # 2
Assertiveness? Yes, the upper caste Hindus will exhibit the increasing assertiveness over the SC/ST population.
Assertiveness? Yes, the upper caste Hindus will exhibit the increasing assertiveness over the SC/ST population.
#3 Posted by nkg on May 9, 2008 4:33:29 am
Vaibhav, Jainism is very much part of Indian culture.It is far different from imported mediaval,middle east,barabric nomadic practises. Jainism does not look bizzare in Indian context. Influence of Mahaveer and other Tirthankars on indians are far larger than the Jain community. You need to know the state of Ahmadias and Shias in Pakistan. When you need to tackle barbarism, you need to adopt some unethical steps (not always), sometimes. This is kind of scavenger's work. RSS is doing that. We all should be thankful to RSS.
#2 Posted by harimau on May 9, 2008 3:44:34 am
Ref nkg #1
[Man, what you want to say? If people want to rectify historical distortions, what is your problem?]
Rectifying historical distortions might lead to self-respect and assertiveness on the part of Hindus. Which is what the pseudo-secularists don't want.
If Aurangzeb granted a firman to one Hindu temple giving it some money, that is magnified and trumpeted as the example of the secular humanism of Auramgzeb and that is used to hide the fact that he destroyed hundreds of temples.
If Akbar, in his megalomania, tried to synthesize a new religion called Din-Ilahim that is secularism but the fact that under him Hindu capitals such as Chitorgarh were utterly devastated never to be populated again can be conveniently ignored.
Self-hatred has been instillled in Hindus more effectively by Jwahirullah Nehru and his minions at JNU than by the Britishers.
Vaibhav Jain, however, is the first example of a Jain ashamed of not being a Muslim or Christian.
[Man, what you want to say? If people want to rectify historical distortions, what is your problem?]
Rectifying historical distortions might lead to self-respect and assertiveness on the part of Hindus. Which is what the pseudo-secularists don't want.
If Aurangzeb granted a firman to one Hindu temple giving it some money, that is magnified and trumpeted as the example of the secular humanism of Auramgzeb and that is used to hide the fact that he destroyed hundreds of temples.
If Akbar, in his megalomania, tried to synthesize a new religion called Din-Ilahim that is secularism but the fact that under him Hindu capitals such as Chitorgarh were utterly devastated never to be populated again can be conveniently ignored.
Self-hatred has been instillled in Hindus more effectively by Jwahirullah Nehru and his minions at JNU than by the Britishers.
Vaibhav Jain, however, is the first example of a Jain ashamed of not being a Muslim or Christian.
#1 Posted by nkg on May 9, 2008 2:32:41 am
Man, what you want to say? If people want to rectify historical distortions, what is your problem?
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