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Re: # 88; nb "Good on you to help out"

but I AM good!!

all surgeons are...you should know that of all people!

Me too, akcheema, I'm counting on the bit of luck. Good on you to help out, I'm too burnt out to do it.

Re: # 85; eklavya..long time!

Muslim atheist huh! that is what Zee said

Look, I grew up as a muslim and that is part of my identity. Same, perhaps, for whoever was a hindu atheist.

We have discussed this elsewhere and you know very well where I stand. One of the reasons people find it hard to connect with me (people from muslim b/g) is that they don't know who the hell I am!

I am in a unique position here; I grew up in the East and West simultaneously; can speak all the relevant languages and have detailed insight into all the philosophies concerned. Despite that, I can make my own decisions! I live where I live and there is nothing anyone can do to intimidate me. If I was in Pakistan, I would be a goner for saying the things I have said, and you know it too.

They feel helpless that they can't do anything about me!

At the end of the day, I do have my sympathies for the cause of the muslim world. I'd like to see them prosper, be scientifically advanced and free-thinking etc. They are a part of me as much as I am a part of them. Like Khalil Gibran said, it is akin to separating your skin off your body!

Saying all that, I really donot believe in the supernatural gods, allah inclusive. Religion plays absolutely no part in my daily life (or my family for that matter).

You are the "deep" philosopher here; what would you call me?

Re: # 84; nb

What overtime? I finish at the end of the year and will be my own boss, with a bit of luck?

Around for a helping hand for a junior colleague; not a crime I take it?

Shah bhai, it is true that Islam represents dynamism and change, but change and dynamism, like almost everything else, mean the opposite things to Islam than they to the Indian mind (The Indian mind may be closer to the one in the pre-Islamic or jahiliyah period - I am guessing here).

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vaibhav, sometime back our atheist friend chaltahai, mirzai brother verizon, and the Hindu righter, yours truly, had a little discussion on whether things exist merely in our minds, or whether they have an objective existence outside of our minds. You should read through that to get a broader perspective.

In short, the atheists, the Indian mind (represented by all its great streams) agree that things (and frictions resulting therefrom) exist only in our minds.

Mirzais and right wingers like me disagree. We believe there are real reasons for conflict. And that these conflicts will not go away so long as those reasons exist.

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vengat, cheema ji

We should find a way to identify Muslim atheists. What should they called? It's a serious question. Muslim atheist sounds odd, unless we find a way to describe the followers of Islam different from Muslims. :)

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Whether it is all in the minds of people who have gotten control of Chowk, or whethere there is any real reason for this but I have been banned. So I will not be interacting here for a while.

Stranger things have been known to happen.
Come off it, didn't you start late too, or is this overtime? I'm fanatical about giving away as much overtime as I can,even though I could do with the money to give the mortgage a push. It's too exhausting and not worth it.
Sorry for using your board to chat, kiddo!

Re: # 82

nb; in surgery we don't knock off early in the day like some!!!

and Khuda Hafiz....for all I know, I may be working with you!!

Re: # 79; nb

Thanks. Sydney eh!! I do need to be careful

btw, I am moving to the National Capital soon....

Re: # 78; vengat

I am sure they will; it is more a matter of principle if you will.

Zeemax, to my knowledge, didn't use bad language per se; nor did Dash. So to penalise long term nics is unfair in my humble opinion; surely some may have 'earned' it but many didn't.

Re: # 79

g'nite...

Akcheema and I turn up at the same time, because we are in the same time zone, unlike the rest of you, mainly across the Pacific or Indian Oceans. You still at work, akcheema?
Yes, a cretin, but umm, we don't say that any more, do we??

I am generally in favour of freedom of speech, but when it is only used to abuse women, I have to rethink. I still don't believe he should be banned, though. I totally appreciate that Vaibhav has the best interests of our country at heart, but in his place, I would be very worried if the person I am referring to had praise for my article.

BTW, I may be moving Sydney side, so be very careful :)
And g'night, both of you.

Re: # 75; akcheema


"looks like a lot of people got banned which isn't fair "

Cheer up...they will all come back with a new nic...

Re: # 76; vengat

they have been on my case for a while; I try to stay away from these distractions if I can

generally harmless I reckon but I don't like my name displayed all over the place

Re: # 75

Visit unplugged...peon Saab says you are a Kafr :D...okie...no more rumours from me ...hahah

Re: # 74; vengat

I am still at work mate; which post are you referring to?

btw; don't try to spread unnecessay rumours; looks like a lot of people got banned which isn't fair

Re: # 73

akcheema Saab,

There's very little activity on the site...Everybody must have had the sanity potion a little bit too much yesterday. Btw isn't it time you aussies say 'goodnite'...

I was wondering where you were. There is a post that has you as its protoganist...See be a Hindu atheist or a Muslim atheist, the result is the same...