Vaibhav Jain May 5, 2008
#57 Posted by ahmedmadani on May 10, 2008 6:13:39 pm
THis not good news. India is trying to exploit Bangla Desh. Concerned countries China, pakistan and muslim nations need to offer same things and build same stuff in Bangla Desh. This indian company entering B.Desh will be detrimental to interests of pakistan and china. China and Pakistan should help bd to industrilse. Tata is old age company without high tech like china steel making. Fools are wasting time in tamasha of CJ and india will be investing in BD. Sorry state. now real Bad news.
BD to reopen talks with Tata
Sunday, May 11, 2008
DHAKA: Bangladesh’s military-backed government will reopen negotiations with Indian conglomerate Tata on Sunday on the group’s record three-billion-dollar investment plan, officials said.
Senior Tata officials led by its executive director Alan Rosling will meet top government bureaucrats nearly two years after the conglomerate postponed what would be the biggest single foreign investment in Bangladesh.
The Indian salt-to-telecoms giant offered to build a steel plant, two power plants, a fertiliser plant and a coal mine back in 2006, after upgrading a 2004 plan.
Bangladesh investment board chief Kamaluddin Ahmed confirmed the talks, but refused to provide agenda details.
A Tata official said the group was encouraged by “positive indications� from the Dhaka government.
“Yes, there is an intention to move it forward,� said Tata’s Bangladesh chief Syed Manzer Hossain. He said the company was ready to discuss all the issues.
“We submitted it in 2006 and it’s now 2008. Obviously there are some changes. The government may have some issues. We’ll evaluate the changing scenario after we meet,� he said.
Bangladesh has been under emergency rule since January 11 2007 when the president cancelled elections amid allegations of poll rigging.
The government has promised to “take up all necessary projects� to promote long-term economic growth and vowed to clean up corruption before restoring democracy and holding elections before the end of 2008.
The Bangladesh Nationalist Party government had promised a decision on the Tata project by June 2006.
BD to reopen talks with Tata
Sunday, May 11, 2008
DHAKA: Bangladesh’s military-backed government will reopen negotiations with Indian conglomerate Tata on Sunday on the group’s record three-billion-dollar investment plan, officials said.
Senior Tata officials led by its executive director Alan Rosling will meet top government bureaucrats nearly two years after the conglomerate postponed what would be the biggest single foreign investment in Bangladesh.
The Indian salt-to-telecoms giant offered to build a steel plant, two power plants, a fertiliser plant and a coal mine back in 2006, after upgrading a 2004 plan.
Bangladesh investment board chief Kamaluddin Ahmed confirmed the talks, but refused to provide agenda details.
A Tata official said the group was encouraged by “positive indications� from the Dhaka government.
“Yes, there is an intention to move it forward,� said Tata’s Bangladesh chief Syed Manzer Hossain. He said the company was ready to discuss all the issues.
“We submitted it in 2006 and it’s now 2008. Obviously there are some changes. The government may have some issues. We’ll evaluate the changing scenario after we meet,� he said.
Bangladesh has been under emergency rule since January 11 2007 when the president cancelled elections amid allegations of poll rigging.
The government has promised to “take up all necessary projects� to promote long-term economic growth and vowed to clean up corruption before restoring democracy and holding elections before the end of 2008.
The Bangladesh Nationalist Party government had promised a decision on the Tata project by June 2006.
#56 Posted by laddu on May 10, 2008 6:02:02 pm
"...and, on the other hand, it has elements like stone inlay work and arches, which are reflective of the Islamic style of architecture"
You mean Hindu architecture never knew inlay work before mohamud ghori started to kill us??
You mean Hindu architecture never knew inlay work before mohamud ghori started to kill us??
#55 Posted by mistaken_enigma on May 10, 2008 5:07:19 pm
@ bjkumar ji (Comment # 50)
I will take your advice and start studying once next semester begins. For now I'm gonna sit back, enjoy the summer and probably make a trip to Palanpur.
I will take your advice and start studying once next semester begins. For now I'm gonna sit back, enjoy the summer and probably make a trip to Palanpur.
#54 Posted by dost_mittar on May 10, 2008 4:51:08 pm
I think that some time Indians should have a historical Truth and Reconciliation exercise where both sides can present their viewpoint and come to some kind of a consensus. Facts and myths are mixed on both sides. Even if a consensus is not possible because the two sides have completely different perspectives, this amrit-manthar could produce a nectar of truth.
naqshbandi:
"Also, from what I have read of Iqbal (ra), his Pakistan was to be an autonomous PART of the Indian Union not an independent country..."
His statement at the Muslim League annual conference was ambivalent and could be interpreted as a call either for a separate country or an autonomous region. In any case, there is no doubt that he was the one who mentored Jinnah who called for the resolution of Pakistan in 1940. There is nothing to suggest that Iqbal would have voted against that resolution.
naqshbandi:
"Also, from what I have read of Iqbal (ra), his Pakistan was to be an autonomous PART of the Indian Union not an independent country..."
His statement at the Muslim League annual conference was ambivalent and could be interpreted as a call either for a separate country or an autonomous region. In any case, there is no doubt that he was the one who mentored Jinnah who called for the resolution of Pakistan in 1940. There is nothing to suggest that Iqbal would have voted against that resolution.
#53 Posted by dost_mittar on May 10, 2008 4:48:58 pm
His statement at the Muslim League annual conference was ambivalent and could be interpreted as a call either for a separate country or an autonomous region. In any case, there is no doubt that he was the one who mentored Jinnah who called for the resolution of Pakistan in 1940. There is nothing to suggest that Iqbal would have voted against that resolution.
I think that some time Indians should have a historical Truth and Reconciliation exercise where both sides can present their viewpoint and come to some kind of a consensus. Facts and myths are mixed on both sides. Even if a consensus is not possible because the two sides have completely different perspectives, this amrit-manthar could produce a nectar of truth.
naqshbandi:
"Also, from what I have read of Iqbal (ra), his Pakistan was to be an autonomous PART of the Indian Union not an independent country..."
I think that some time Indians should have a historical Truth and Reconciliation exercise where both sides can present their viewpoint and come to some kind of a consensus. Facts and myths are mixed on both sides. Even if a consensus is not possible because the two sides have completely different perspectives, this amrit-manthar could produce a nectar of truth.
naqshbandi:
"Also, from what I have read of Iqbal (ra), his Pakistan was to be an autonomous PART of the Indian Union not an independent country..."
#52 Posted by Shah2 on May 10, 2008 1:22:48 pm
#49
Laddu ko itna gussa kyon ata hai ..
It may be b/c your families collective memory from too far a distance in the southern india was too overwhelming.
If tejo mahal was indeed so why no such 'mahal' in the south??????????.After all u guys did not even have to face any army....socho
The invading Moslem came 1000yrs ago so about 800 t0 1000A.D. ago ..theek
is taj mahal more than 1000yrs old ...haan ke na
Rajput built Hawa Mahal in Jaipur around 1800 'influenced by Moghul architecture '.How could taj be tejo mahal when muslim had already been in rule for 600 to 800yrs inconsolidated rule...theek
Hawa mahal of Jaipur was built in 1799!!!!!!!!!!!!
A study of Rajput monuments shows that it was strongly influenced by Mughal architecture. However, the Rajputs adapted and used Mughals styles so tastefully in their buildings that it led to the development of a distinct architectural style of great sophistication and imaginative invention. The Rajput style, on one hand, has traditional Hindu elements like the chhatris (small domed canopies, supported by pillars), fluted pillars, lotus and floral patterns, etc., and, on the other hand, it has elements like stone inlay work and arches, which are reflective of the Islamic style of architecture
Laddu ko itna gussa kyon ata hai ..
It may be b/c your families collective memory from too far a distance in the southern india was too overwhelming.
If tejo mahal was indeed so why no such 'mahal' in the south??????????.After all u guys did not even have to face any army....socho
The invading Moslem came 1000yrs ago so about 800 t0 1000A.D. ago ..theek
is taj mahal more than 1000yrs old ...haan ke na
Rajput built Hawa Mahal in Jaipur around 1800 'influenced by Moghul architecture '.How could taj be tejo mahal when muslim had already been in rule for 600 to 800yrs inconsolidated rule...theek
Hawa mahal of Jaipur was built in 1799!!!!!!!!!!!!
A study of Rajput monuments shows that it was strongly influenced by Mughal architecture. However, the Rajputs adapted and used Mughals styles so tastefully in their buildings that it led to the development of a distinct architectural style of great sophistication and imaginative invention. The Rajput style, on one hand, has traditional Hindu elements like the chhatris (small domed canopies, supported by pillars), fluted pillars, lotus and floral patterns, etc., and, on the other hand, it has elements like stone inlay work and arches, which are reflective of the Islamic style of architecture
#51 Posted by 1Safe on May 10, 2008 11:46:42 am
Vaibhav,
When I read your article I felt optimistic reading from an Indian who GETS it. Who has realized that the only true danger to his country comes from his own right-wingers. Just as I realize that the only true danger to our beautiful Pakistan comes from Islamo-fascists.
That in your country, a single gallone of petrol can cause the burning down of half of a state. No need to worry about Atfs, and Gaznivis.
But, it wasn't to be; I read the Interacts. As expected, the RSS-wallahs--and even worse--the Godseists, were on your case. No surprise there. What surprised me was how SELECTIVELY you respond to the interacts. That is, the interacts thus far!
Being in Texas, I am sure you have heard of the saying 'You can take the boy out of the village, but you cannot take the village out of the boy.'
Realizing this, the Hindutvadis are going to love you now!
Neverthelss, for the sake of the innocent in this region, I wish you all the best in your honest inquiry. The fact that you are a young person bespeaks your potential and,that you are miles ahead of a lot of others.
Please do not bother responding, I understand.
When I read your article I felt optimistic reading from an Indian who GETS it. Who has realized that the only true danger to his country comes from his own right-wingers. Just as I realize that the only true danger to our beautiful Pakistan comes from Islamo-fascists.
That in your country, a single gallone of petrol can cause the burning down of half of a state. No need to worry about Atfs, and Gaznivis.
But, it wasn't to be; I read the Interacts. As expected, the RSS-wallahs--and even worse--the Godseists, were on your case. No surprise there. What surprised me was how SELECTIVELY you respond to the interacts. That is, the interacts thus far!
Being in Texas, I am sure you have heard of the saying 'You can take the boy out of the village, but you cannot take the village out of the boy.'
Realizing this, the Hindutvadis are going to love you now!
Neverthelss, for the sake of the innocent in this region, I wish you all the best in your honest inquiry. The fact that you are a young person bespeaks your potential and,that you are miles ahead of a lot of others.
Please do not bother responding, I understand.
#50 Posted by bjkumar on May 10, 2008 10:37:10 am
Look Vaibhav, maybe I was a bit too harsh on you yesterday. But the simple fact is - based on reading this piece, I strongly recommend you to focus on your studies more than mistakenly trying to solve the enigma that is Hinduism.
#49 Posted by laddu on May 10, 2008 7:38:18 am
I agree- calling a tomb as mahal makes no sense unless you want to denigrade the dhimmi 'mahal' as a tomb.
The place pre-existed as a mahal and was used to house mumtaz's kabr in a hindu dhimmi's palace.
It is like some one entering your house and asking it to be vacated for burying one's family member!!
Lahol!!
The place pre-existed as a mahal and was used to house mumtaz's kabr in a hindu dhimmi's palace.
It is like some one entering your house and asking it to be vacated for burying one's family member!!
Lahol!!
#48 Posted by Mr.India on May 10, 2008 6:04:38 am
Re: # 46
Bharti Laddu
So you read official historical 'truth 'or you just feel that it was UN truth not sure what truth is .
What is YOUR truth .Is this line of direction more in line with non Marxist No ncert Non one sided view Histriography
"The term Tajmahal itself never occurs in any mogul court paper or chronicle even in Aurangzeb's time. The attempt to explain it away as Taj-i-mahal is therefore, ridiculous......
Bharti Laddu
So you read official historical 'truth 'or you just feel that it was UN truth not sure what truth is .
What is YOUR truth .Is this line of direction more in line with non Marxist No ncert Non one sided view Histriography
"The term Tajmahal itself never occurs in any mogul court paper or chronicle even in Aurangzeb's time. The attempt to explain it away as Taj-i-mahal is therefore, ridiculous......
#47 Posted by ahmedmadani on May 10, 2008 5:39:11 am
Re: # 44 mr.n. those things are gone. anotomous part etc could have worked in 1040s, now talk of that , or such things can lead to bifercation of country, especially baloachistan, and MAJOR ENERGY gas comes from there. without cheaper gas export economy can get hurt very badly. talk of atonomy is extremely dangerous and terror tactics use like bla will have god sent opportunity tojustify in historical sense.please do not bring back that . thanks
#46 Posted by laddu on May 10, 2008 5:26:40 am
"My friend feels the same about Marxist academics and their conceptualization of Indian History."
Let the text books , when they provide Marxist Historiography say it loudly that it is based upon the marxist view. Same should be about the hindutva view of history. I think that would make things fair enough than teaching children contorted and one sided view of the history as 'official truths' in text books.
I remember reading the NCERT books that certainly was based upon the marxist reading of history. It was much later I could understand the other side of story.
We need to provide the school going children an understanding of politics of historiography as well so that they can understand that what is being taught is NOT an official 'historical-truth'.
Let the text books , when they provide Marxist Historiography say it loudly that it is based upon the marxist view. Same should be about the hindutva view of history. I think that would make things fair enough than teaching children contorted and one sided view of the history as 'official truths' in text books.
I remember reading the NCERT books that certainly was based upon the marxist reading of history. It was much later I could understand the other side of story.
We need to provide the school going children an understanding of politics of historiography as well so that they can understand that what is being taught is NOT an official 'historical-truth'.
#45 Posted by bjkumar on May 10, 2008 4:38:35 am
Re: # 43
Naqshbandi sahib, thanks for the clarification. I have no idea where I read about his emigrating to Pakistan - but I had always wondered how anyone writing those lines could actually emigrate! (But then, poets are notoriously unstable!)
Naqshbandi sahib, thanks for the clarification. I have no idea where I read about his emigrating to Pakistan - but I had always wondered how anyone writing those lines could actually emigrate! (But then, poets are notoriously unstable!)
#44 Posted by Naqshbandi on May 10, 2008 4:27:24 am
Also, from what I have read of Iqbal (ra), his Pakistan was to be an autonomous PART of the Indian Union not an independent country...
#43 Posted by Naqshbandi on May 10, 2008 4:25:55 am
correction: bjkumar sahib--allama iqbal -may Allah perfume his resting place!--passed away to His Lord in 1938--a full 9 years before Independence.
#42 Posted by bjkumar on May 10, 2008 4:11:30 am
Re: # 40
Mr. India, you are of course aware that the guy who wrote that song (Iqbal) left for Pakistan as soon as he got the chance?!!
Harimau is Harimau, but the point you miss is there is legitimate room for making the argument that the "seculars" in India are hypocrites whose rant is limited to beating up on the Hindus while letting all the Muslim fanaticism go undiscussed. It is entirely possible that the rise of the BJP and like-minded parties over the past two decades is more a result of the general population becoming wiser to that duplicity rather than anything else - including what these BJP wallas are saying.
Mr. India, you are of course aware that the guy who wrote that song (Iqbal) left for Pakistan as soon as he got the chance?!!
Harimau is Harimau, but the point you miss is there is legitimate room for making the argument that the "seculars" in India are hypocrites whose rant is limited to beating up on the Hindus while letting all the Muslim fanaticism go undiscussed. It is entirely possible that the rise of the BJP and like-minded parties over the past two decades is more a result of the general population becoming wiser to that duplicity rather than anything else - including what these BJP wallas are saying.
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